Julia,

Youare looking for Spring Lane Farm.

GriffithsValuation (1859) lists 2 Cathcart farms in Ballymuckleheaney. _Plot 9was James Cathcart with 29 acres and plot 10 was Gabriel with 22.Plot 9 contains Spring Lane Cottage. It’s shown on the Griffithsmaps. So I would guess that plot 9 was Spring Lane farm.

The2 farms are on either side of the modern A31 Magherafelt Rd. Accessto plot 9 is from that road and access to plot 10 is from theMoneymore Rd. There are still farms there today.

Elwyn

On Sunday, 10 July 2022, 00:14:23 BST, JH Todd via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:  

James, 
Thank you for responding. 
In my line - Gilbert Cathcart married Margaret Steele (Steill) about 1765. He was from Spring Lane Farm, County Derry, Ireland. I’m not aware of any direct-line Cathcarts from County Fermanagh. 
Julia

On Jul 8, 2022, at 12:34 AM, James Huey via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
Interesting --  I have family names Cathcart and Steele in my tree also (I am a Steele descendant)  But my Cathcarts came from County Fermanagh  1842  >> I don’t know of any US connection  and my Steeles came from Tyrone   1773  >>  yes,   some offspring went to the US.  James (in Sydney, Australia)Direct email:    james@jameshuey.com  From: JH Todd via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com 
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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Help with ancestral sites County Tyrone  I am looking for someone who can help me pinpoint ancestral sites in County Tyrone and County Derry for an upcoming trip in Fall 2022. Surnames are Cathcart, Marshall, Alexander, Cousley, Steele My Great, great grandfather John Marshall Cathcart was born in either Cookstown or Pomeroy March 11, 1842. He came to United States about 1860. His parents are Gabriel Cathcart (born 1817) and Hester Marshall Cathcart (born 1818). Hester’s widowed mother, Letitia Marshall, was an innkeeper in Pomeroy in 1839. Gabriel Cathcart was living near Magherafelt in 1839 when he and Hester Marshall married. The Cathcart, Cousley, and Steele families are also associated with Springlane Farm, Ballymuckleheany, County Derry. Sarah Alexander, my great great grandmother, born in either Pomeroy or Belfast, joined a brother or uncle in the United States. There she married John Marshall Cathcart. Is there a local person who can help me with local sites? Connections with cousins would be a bonus. Thank you      Julia Holton Todd, Kirkland, Washington, USA

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Julia,

The information you possess re. your family is very detailed and
predates records generally referred to by family historians. Perhaps
the records of the Registry of Deeds in Dublin could be essential to
your research and offer proof to support recollections of previous
generations?

I have had a quick look at the 1631 Muster Rolls of Ulster and there
are no Cathcarts recorded in either Cos Londonderry or Tyrone.

Len

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Boyd, 

 I want to see if I can locate the inn that the Marshall family had

in Pomeroy in 1839. 

As well as the home Gabriel and Hester Marshall Cathcart lived in

from perhaps their marriage in 1839 to I don’t know when.

Perhaps I don’t have a complete understanding of what the Griffiths

Valuation tells me.

I’d like to see if we can locate Spring Lane Farm, County Derry as

well as The Grange. These are mentioned in two family narratives.
These documents are typed and probably have been transcribed from
handwritten documents written in 1934 and 1907. So the place name
spellings might be incorrect. 

Three Cathcart brothers came to Ireland - possibly in 1611

1 - One brother settled at Glen Leary near Coleraine; this was rented

land

            William Cathcart, cousin of James Cathcart

(son of Gilbert and Margaret married 1765) rented the land at the
“time of his cousin James”

“last of the Glen Leary Cathcarts”, Nancy Cathcart was living

there in 1883 and lived at the “old house” 

2 - another brother at Ballybay, County Monaghan  - “nothing is

known of the Ballybay Cathcarts"

3 - Another brother at the Grange near Maghearfelt – This is my

direct line - - John Cathcart had 3 sons. Gilbert and two others. The
two unnamed sons inherited the Grange. Gilbert purchased Spring Lane
Farm in about 1765 when he married Margaret Steele - See notes below
about The Grange and Spring Lane Farm

There’s a cemetery with Cathcart “kin” at Kilcrone Glen [is

this Kilcronaghan?] near Tobermore, County Derry  (Is this the
Kilcronaghan Parish Churchyard?)

Spring Lane Farm, near Magherafelt, County Derry

A family narrative in my possession says Gilbert Cathcart bought

Spring Lane Farm about 1765 when he married Margaret Steele
(Skiel/Skill/Steil) Spring Lane is near Magherafelt and had 35 Irish
acres. The house supposedly predated the Cathcarts, perhaps back to
1611

The Grange

 Gilbert Cathcart’s parents and uncles had the Grange. As of 1883

Samuel Cathcart of Belfast still owned half the Grange property and
Samuel’s sister was living there. The other half of the Grange was
inherited by Marie Cathcart, a niece of Gilbert Cathcart. A daughter
of Marie’s was living there in 1883. 
    

So - that’s what I’m trying to locate. Thank you to all the kind
people who have responded. I think it’s time I explore hiring
someone to help me pursue this further. 

Thanks for everyone’s help. 

Julia

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So, if you have the GV, which gives you the "ancestral sites" which
you asked for, in County Tyrone, what is it you are looking actually
for, Julia?

https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/ [2]

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Thank you. I do have Griffiths Valuation. Good suggestion to visit the
local post offices

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Have you tried Griffiths Valuation to see if you could locate family
farms. If you can get close you could then visit local post offices
and they might help locate relatives  ( worked for me when I went).

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I am looking for someone who can help me pinpoint ancestral sites in
County Tyrone and County Derry for an upcoming trip in Fall 2022.

Surnames are Cathcart, Marshall, Alexander, Cousley, Steele

My Great, great grandfather John Marshall Cathcart was born in either
Cookstown or Pomeroy March 11, 1842. He came to United States about
1860. His parents are Gabriel Cathcart (born 1817) and Hester Marshall
Cathcart (born 1818). Hester’s widowed mother, Letitia Marshall, was
an innkeeper in Pomeroy in 1839. Gabriel Cathcart was living near
Magherafelt in 1839 when he and Hester Marshall married. The Cathcart,
Cousley, and Steele families are also associated with Springlane Farm,
Ballymuckleheany, County Derry.

Sarah Alexander, my great great grandmother, born in either Pomeroy or
Belfast, joined a brother or uncle in the United States. There she
married John Marshall Cathcart.

Is there a local person who can help me with local sites? Connections
with cousins would be a bonus. 

Thank you

Julia Holton Todd, 
Kirkland, Washington, USA

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Julia,

Have referred to the Co Londonderry Flaxseed Bounty Lists (Spinning
Wheel Premiums) of 1796 and find GILBERT CATHCART recorded in
Desertlyn parish and JOHN & WILLIAM CATHCART residing in Desertmartin
parish (both parishes adjoin Magherafelt). Also, WILLIAM KITHCART is
recorded in Macosquin parish which adjoins Coleraine parish.
Disappointingly the Flaxseed lists do not recorded the resident
townlands of the recipients of the wheels, only the parish and the
number of wheels awarded.

Trust this is interesting,
Len Swindley

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Len, Thank you for the suggestion. Thank you also for looking at the
1631 Muster Rolls of Ulster

Julia

On Jul 11, 2022, at 5:27 AM, Len Swindley via CoTyroneList
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Julia,

The information you possess re. your family is very detailed and
predates records generally referred to by family historians. Perhaps
the records of the Registry of Deeds in Dublin could be essential to
your research and offer proof to support recollections of previous
generations?

I have had a quick look at the 1631 Muster Rolls of Ulster and there
are no Cathcarts recorded in either Cos Londonderry or Tyrone.

Len

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Boyd, 

 I want to see if I can locate the inn that the Marshall family had

in Pomeroy in 1839. 

As well as the home Gabriel and Hester Marshall Cathcart lived in

from perhaps their marriage in 1839 to I don’t know when.

Perhaps I don’t have a complete understanding of what the Griffiths

Valuation tells me.

I’d like to see if we can locate Spring Lane Farm, County Derry as

well as The Grange. These are mentioned in two family narratives.
These documents are typed and probably have been transcribed from
handwritten documents written in 1934 and 1907. So the place name
spellings might be incorrect. 

Three Cathcart brothers came to Ireland - possibly in 1611

1 - One brother settled at Glen Leary near Coleraine; this was rented

land

            William Cathcart, cousin of James Cathcart

(son of Gilbert and Margaret married 1765) rented the land at the
“time of his cousin James”

“last of the Glen Leary Cathcarts”, Nancy Cathcart was living

there in 1883 and lived at the “old house” 

2 - another brother at Ballybay, County Monaghan  - “nothing is

known of the Ballybay Cathcarts"

3 - Another brother at the Grange near Maghearfelt – This is my

direct line - - John Cathcart had 3 sons. Gilbert and two others. The
two unnamed sons inherited the Grange. Gilbert purchased Spring Lane
Farm in about 1765 when he married Margaret Steele - See notes below
about The Grange and Spring Lane Farm

There’s a cemetery with Cathcart “kin” at Kilcrone Glen [is

this Kilcronaghan?] near Tobermore, County Derry  (Is this the
Kilcronaghan Parish Churchyard?)

Spring Lane Farm, near Magherafelt, County Derry

A family narrative in my possession says Gilbert Cathcart bought

Spring Lane Farm about 1765 when he married Margaret Steele
(Skiel/Skill/Steil) Spring Lane is near Magherafelt and had 35 Irish
acres. The house supposedly predated the Cathcarts, perhaps back to
1611

The Grange

Gilbert Cathcart’s parents and uncles had the Grange. As of 1883
Samuel Cathcart of Belfast still owned half the Grange property and
Samuel’s sister was living there. The other half of the Grange was
inherited by Marie Cathcart, a niece of Gilbert Cathcart. A daughter
of Marie’s was living there in 1883. 
    

So - that’s what I’m trying to locate. Thank you to all the kind
people who have responded. I think it’s time I explore hiring
someone to help me pursue this further. 

Thanks for everyone’s help. 

Julia

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So, if you have the GV, which gives you the "ancestral sites" which
you asked for, in County Tyrone, what is it you are looking actually
for, Julia?

https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/ [9]

http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/ [10]

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Thank you. I do have Griffiths Valuation. Good suggestion to visit the
local post offices

On Jul 7, 2022, at 12:19 PM, Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList
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Have you tried Griffiths Valuation to see if you could locate family
farms. If you can get close you could then visit local post offices
and they might help locate relatives  ( worked for me when I went).

Sent from the all new AOL app for Android [13]

On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 13:59, JH Todd via CoTyroneList
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I am looking for someone who can help me pinpoint ancestral sites in
County Tyrone and County Derry for an upcoming trip in Fall 2022.

Surnames are Cathcart, Marshall, Alexander, Cousley, Steele

My Great, great grandfather John Marshall Cathcart was born in either
Cookstown or Pomeroy March 11, 1842. He came to United States about
1860. His parents are Gabriel Cathcart (born 1817) and Hester Marshall
Cathcart (born 1818). Hester’s widowed mother, Letitia Marshall, was
an innkeeper in Pomeroy in 1839. Gabriel Cathcart was living near
Magherafelt in 1839 when he and Hester Marshall married. The Cathcart,
Cousley, and Steele families are also associated with Springlane Farm,
Ballymuckleheany, County Derry.

Sarah Alexander, my great great grandmother, born in either Pomeroy or
Belfast, joined a brother or uncle in the United States. There she
married John Marshall Cathcart.

Is there a local person who can help me with local sites? Connections
with cousins would be a bonus. 

Thank you

Julia Holton Todd, 
Kirkland, Washington, USA

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