Poor running question

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scfoster1@gmail.com
Mon, Aug 24, 2020 2:28 PM

It would seem it is just 1 coil with 2 high voltage taps. Use an ohm meter
to check the resistance on each tap, if the same = 1 coil 2 taps. If
different possibly separate set of windings for each tap.

Steve

On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 9:19 AM James Calandro capod2t@gmail.com wrote:

I do not see how they could be in series.  My logic for saying parallel is
that in series if one we totally disconnected like mine was then both would
not work and my bike would have been running on one cylinder.  It was
clearly running on both cylinders just poorly at low rpm and part
throttle.  It was miserable in intown traffic but was almost normal out on
the open highway.  Not saying you are wrong because I really do not know
but just sharing my logic.  Christmas tree lights that are in series have
the whole string go out when one bulb burns out or is removed.

Jim
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On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:46 AM T st2_@ticino.com wrote:

No, they are in series.

Tom

On 8/22/2020 4:19 PM, James Calandro wrote:

It is one coil with two outlets so I assume they are in parallel.

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It would seem it is just 1 coil with 2 high voltage taps. Use an ohm meter to check the resistance on each tap, if the same = 1 coil 2 taps. If different possibly separate set of windings for each tap. Steve On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 9:19 AM James Calandro <capod2t@gmail.com> wrote: > I do not see how they could be in series. My logic for saying parallel is > that in series if one we totally disconnected like mine was then both would > not work and my bike would have been running on one cylinder. It was > clearly running on both cylinders just poorly at low rpm and part > throttle. It was miserable in intown traffic but was almost normal out on > the open highway. Not saying you are wrong because I really do not know > but just sharing my logic. Christmas tree lights that are in series have > the whole string go out when one bulb burns out or is removed. > > Jim > Jim Calandro > il Capo > US DESMO > www.usdesmo.com > 704-843-0429 > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> > <#m_-4501333175138981162_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:46 AM T <st2_@ticino.com> wrote: > >> No, they are in series. >> >> Tom >> >> >> On 8/22/2020 4:19 PM, James Calandro wrote: >> >> It is one coil with two outlets so I assume they are in parallel. >> >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: capod2t@gmail.com >> > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: scfoster1@gmail.com >
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T
Mon, Aug 24, 2020 2:57 PM

Gnd-plug-coil1-coil2-plug-gnd.

Remove one plug, the internal spark gap will fire.

Parallel will not work.

I am an EE, and three of my bikes are twin-spark (2x LMIV, SS1000DS).

Tom

On 8/24/2020 3:18 PM, James Calandro wrote:

I do not see how they could be in series.  My logic for saying
parallel is that in series if one we totally disconnected like mine
was then both would not work and my bike would have been running on
one cylinder.  It was clearly running on both cylinders just poorly at
low rpm and part throttle.  It was miserable in intown traffic but was
almost normal out on the open highway. Not saying you are wrong
because I really do not know but just sharing my logic.  Christmas
tree lights that are in series have the whole string go out when one
bulb burns out or is removed.

Jim
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On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:46 AM T <st2_@ticino.com
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 No, they are in series.

 Tom


 On 8/22/2020 4:19 PM, James Calandro wrote:
 It is one coil with two outlets so I assume they are in parallel.
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Gnd-plug-coil1-coil2-plug-gnd. Remove one plug, the internal spark gap will fire. Parallel will not work. I am an EE, and three of my bikes are twin-spark (2x LMIV, SS1000DS). Tom On 8/24/2020 3:18 PM, James Calandro wrote: > I do not see how they could be in series.  My logic for saying > parallel is that in series if one we totally disconnected like mine > was then both would not work and my bike would have been running on > one cylinder.  It was clearly running on both cylinders just poorly at > low rpm and part throttle.  It was miserable in intown traffic but was > almost normal out on the open highway. Not saying you are wrong > because I really do not know but just sharing my logic.  Christmas > tree lights that are in series have the whole string go out when one > bulb burns out or is removed. > > Jim > Jim Calandro > il Capo > US DESMO > www.usdesmo.com <http://www.usdesmo.com> > 704-843-0429 > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> > Virus-free. www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> > > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:46 AM T <st2_@ticino.com > <mailto:st2_@ticino.com>> wrote: > > No, they are in series. > > Tom > > > On 8/22/2020 4:19 PM, James Calandro wrote: >> It is one coil with two outlets so I assume they are in parallel. > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: capod2t@gmail.com <mailto:capod2t@gmail.com> > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: st2_@ticino.com
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Jack Ward
Tue, Aug 25, 2020 3:08 AM

Coil wiring diagram.

Jack Ward
Knoxville, TN, USA

On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:58 AM T st2_@ticino.com wrote:

Gnd-plug-coil1-coil2-plug-gnd.

Remove one plug, the internal spark gap will fire.

Parallel will not work.

I am an EE, and three of my bikes are twin-spark (2x LMIV, SS1000DS).

Tom

On 8/24/2020 3:18 PM, James Calandro wrote:

I do not see how they could be in series.  My logic for saying parallel is
that in series if one we totally disconnected like mine was then both would
not work and my bike would have been running on one cylinder.  It was
clearly running on both cylinders just poorly at low rpm and part
throttle.  It was miserable in intown traffic but was almost normal out on
the open highway.  Not saying you are wrong because I really do not know
but just sharing my logic.  Christmas tree lights that are in series have
the whole string go out when one bulb burns out or is removed.

Jim
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il Capo
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On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:46 AM T st2_@ticino.com wrote:

No, they are in series.

Tom

On 8/22/2020 4:19 PM, James Calandro wrote:

It is one coil with two outlets so I assume they are in parallel.

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Coil wiring diagram. Jack Ward Knoxville, TN, USA On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:58 AM T <st2_@ticino.com> wrote: > Gnd-plug-coil1-coil2-plug-gnd. > > Remove one plug, the internal spark gap will fire. > > Parallel will not work. > > I am an EE, and three of my bikes are twin-spark (2x LMIV, SS1000DS). > > Tom > > > On 8/24/2020 3:18 PM, James Calandro wrote: > > I do not see how they could be in series. My logic for saying parallel is > that in series if one we totally disconnected like mine was then both would > not work and my bike would have been running on one cylinder. It was > clearly running on both cylinders just poorly at low rpm and part > throttle. It was miserable in intown traffic but was almost normal out on > the open highway. Not saying you are wrong because I really do not know > but just sharing my logic. Christmas tree lights that are in series have > the whole string go out when one bulb burns out or is removed. > > Jim > Jim Calandro > il Capo > US DESMO > www.usdesmo.com > 704-843-0429 > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:46 AM T <st2_@ticino.com> wrote: > >> No, they are in series. >> >> Tom >> >> >> On 8/22/2020 4:19 PM, James Calandro wrote: >> >> It is one coil with two outlets so I assume they are in parallel. >> >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: capod2t@gmail.com >> > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news:http://www.ductalk.com/ > andhttps://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing listDucati@list.ducati.nethttp://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: st2_@ticino.com > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: jaxn51@gmail.com >
T
T
Tue, Aug 25, 2020 6:14 AM

Thanks, Jack!

Anyway, if one plug is not there, there is (hopefully) an internal spark
gap (in parallel with the plug) to protect the coil (otherwise the coil
will destroy itself from internal arcing) and allow the other plug to fire.

Tom

On 8/25/2020 5:08 AM, Jack Ward wrote:

Coil wiring diagram.

Jack Ward
Knoxville, TN, USA

On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:58 AM T <st2_@ticino.com
mailto:st2_@ticino.com> wrote:

 Gnd-plug-coil1-coil2-plug-gnd.

 Remove one plug, the internal spark gap will fire.

 Parallel will not work.

 I am an EE, and three of my bikes are twin-spark (2x LMIV, SS1000DS).

 Tom


 On 8/24/2020 3:18 PM, James Calandro wrote:
 I do not see how they could be in series.  My logic for saying
 parallel is that in series if one we totally disconnected like
 mine was then both would not work and my bike would have been
 running on one cylinder. It was clearly running on both cylinders
 just poorly at low rpm and part throttle.  It was miserable in
 intown traffic but was almost normal out on the open highway. 
 Not saying you are wrong because I really do not know but just
 sharing my logic.  Christmas tree lights that are in series have
 the whole string go out when one bulb burns out or is removed.

 Jim
 Jim Calandro
 il Capo
 US DESMO
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 704-843-0429


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 On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:46 AM T <st2_@ticino.com
 <mailto:st2_@ticino.com>> wrote:

     No, they are in series.

     Tom


     On 8/22/2020 4:19 PM, James Calandro wrote:
     It is one coil with two outlets so I assume they are in
     parallel.
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Thanks, Jack! Anyway, if one plug is not there, there is (hopefully) an internal spark gap (in parallel with the plug) to protect the coil (otherwise the coil will destroy itself from internal arcing) and allow the other plug to fire. Tom On 8/25/2020 5:08 AM, Jack Ward wrote: > Coil wiring diagram. > > Jack Ward > Knoxville, TN, USA > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:58 AM T <st2_@ticino.com > <mailto:st2_@ticino.com>> wrote: > > Gnd-plug-coil1-coil2-plug-gnd. > > Remove one plug, the internal spark gap will fire. > > Parallel will not work. > > I am an EE, and three of my bikes are twin-spark (2x LMIV, SS1000DS). > > Tom > > > On 8/24/2020 3:18 PM, James Calandro wrote: >> I do not see how they could be in series.  My logic for saying >> parallel is that in series if one we totally disconnected like >> mine was then both would not work and my bike would have been >> running on one cylinder. It was clearly running on both cylinders >> just poorly at low rpm and part throttle.  It was miserable in >> intown traffic but was almost normal out on the open highway.  >> Not saying you are wrong because I really do not know but just >> sharing my logic.  Christmas tree lights that are in series have >> the whole string go out when one bulb burns out or is removed. >> >> Jim >> Jim Calandro >> il Capo >> US DESMO >> www.usdesmo.com <http://www.usdesmo.com> >> 704-843-0429 >> >> >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> >> Virus-free. www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:46 AM T <st2_@ticino.com >> <mailto:st2_@ticino.com>> wrote: >> >> No, they are in series. >> >> Tom >> >> >> On 8/22/2020 4:19 PM, James Calandro wrote: >>> It is one coil with two outlets so I assume they are in >>> parallel. >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: capod2t@gmail.com <mailto:capod2t@gmail.com> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto:st2_@ticino.com <mailto:st2_@ticino.com> > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: jaxn51@gmail.com <mailto:jaxn51@gmail.com> > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: st2_@ticino.com
JC
James Calandro
Tue, Aug 25, 2020 2:27 PM

I am guessing the fact that it kept running means there must have been an
internal spark gap.  Oh well today I will fill it with gas and start it up
and see where I am.  Fortunately I have some spare coils from my 05 SS that
I parted out.
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On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 2:14 AM T st2_@ticino.com wrote:

Thanks, Jack!

Anyway, if one plug is not there, there is (hopefully) an internal spark
gap (in parallel with the plug) to protect the coil (otherwise the coil
will destroy itself from internal arcing) and allow the other plug to fire.

Tom

On 8/25/2020 5:08 AM, Jack Ward wrote:

Coil wiring diagram.

Jack Ward
Knoxville, TN, USA

On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:58 AM T st2_@ticino.com wrote:

Gnd-plug-coil1-coil2-plug-gnd.

Remove one plug, the internal spark gap will fire.

Parallel will not work.

I am an EE, and three of my bikes are twin-spark (2x LMIV, SS1000DS).

Tom

On 8/24/2020 3:18 PM, James Calandro wrote:

I do not see how they could be in series.  My logic for saying parallel
is that in series if one we totally disconnected like mine was then both
would not work and my bike would have been running on one cylinder.  It was
clearly running on both cylinders just poorly at low rpm and part
throttle.  It was miserable in intown traffic but was almost normal out on
the open highway.  Not saying you are wrong because I really do not know
but just sharing my logic.  Christmas tree lights that are in series have
the whole string go out when one bulb burns out or is removed.

Jim
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il Capo
US DESMO
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On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:46 AM T st2_@ticino.com wrote:

No, they are in series.

Tom

On 8/22/2020 4:19 PM, James Calandro wrote:

It is one coil with two outlets so I assume they are in parallel.

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I am guessing the fact that it kept running means there must have been an internal spark gap. Oh well today I will fill it with gas and start it up and see where I am. Fortunately I have some spare coils from my 05 SS that I parted out. Jim Calandro il Capo US DESMO www.usdesmo.com 704-843-0429 <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 2:14 AM T <st2_@ticino.com> wrote: > Thanks, Jack! > > Anyway, if one plug is not there, there is (hopefully) an internal spark > gap (in parallel with the plug) to protect the coil (otherwise the coil > will destroy itself from internal arcing) and allow the other plug to fire. > > Tom > > > On 8/25/2020 5:08 AM, Jack Ward wrote: > > Coil wiring diagram. > > Jack Ward > Knoxville, TN, USA > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:58 AM T <st2_@ticino.com> wrote: > >> Gnd-plug-coil1-coil2-plug-gnd. >> >> Remove one plug, the internal spark gap will fire. >> >> Parallel will not work. >> >> I am an EE, and three of my bikes are twin-spark (2x LMIV, SS1000DS). >> >> Tom >> >> >> On 8/24/2020 3:18 PM, James Calandro wrote: >> >> I do not see how they could be in series. My logic for saying parallel >> is that in series if one we totally disconnected like mine was then both >> would not work and my bike would have been running on one cylinder. It was >> clearly running on both cylinders just poorly at low rpm and part >> throttle. It was miserable in intown traffic but was almost normal out on >> the open highway. Not saying you are wrong because I really do not know >> but just sharing my logic. Christmas tree lights that are in series have >> the whole string go out when one bulb burns out or is removed. >> >> Jim >> Jim Calandro >> il Capo >> US DESMO >> www.usdesmo.com >> 704-843-0429 >> >> >> >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. >> www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> >> >> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:46 AM T <st2_@ticino.com> wrote: >> >>> No, they are in series. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> On 8/22/2020 4:19 PM, James Calandro wrote: >>> >>> It is one coil with two outlets so I assume they are in parallel. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>> and >>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>> _____________________ >>> Ducati mailing list >>> Ducati@list.ducati.net >>> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >>> Mailto: capod2t@gmail.com >>> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news:http://www.ductalk.com/ >> andhttps://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing listDucati@list.ducati.nethttp://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: st2_@ticino.com >> >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: jaxn51@gmail.com >> > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news:http://www.ductalk.com/ > andhttps://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing listDucati@list.ducati.nethttp://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: st2_@ticino.com > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: capod2t@gmail.com >
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Tue, Aug 25, 2020 4:12 PM

I suspect that maybe the loose plug wire was arcing to the frame or the
head, allowing it to fire the remaining plug. Just a theory, or it could be
like you suggest and have an internal spark gap for reliability.

Jack Ward
Now in Knoxville, TN, USA

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 2:15 AM T st2_@ticino.com wrote:

Thanks, Jack!

Anyway, if one plug is not there, there is (hopefully) an internal spark
gap (in parallel with the plug) to protect the coil (otherwise the coil
will destroy itself from internal arcing) and allow the other plug to fire.

Tom

On 8/25/2020 5:08 AM, Jack Ward wrote:

Coil wiring diagram.

Jack Ward
Knoxville, TN, USA

On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:58 AM T st2_@ticino.com wrote:

Gnd-plug-coil1-coil2-plug-gnd.

Remove one plug, the internal spark gap will fire.

Parallel will not work.

I am an EE, and three of my bikes are twin-spark (2x LMIV, SS1000DS).

Tom

On 8/24/2020 3:18 PM, James Calandro wrote:

I do not see how they could be in series.  My logic for saying parallel
is that in series if one we totally disconnected like mine was then both
would not work and my bike would have been running on one cylinder.  It was
clearly running on both cylinders just poorly at low rpm and part
throttle.  It was miserable in intown traffic but was almost normal out on
the open highway.  Not saying you are wrong because I really do not know
but just sharing my logic.  Christmas tree lights that are in series have
the whole string go out when one bulb burns out or is removed.

Jim
Jim Calandro
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US DESMO
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On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:46 AM T st2_@ticino.com wrote:

No, they are in series.

Tom

On 8/22/2020 4:19 PM, James Calandro wrote:

It is one coil with two outlets so I assume they are in parallel.

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I suspect that maybe the loose plug wire was arcing to the frame or the head, allowing it to fire the remaining plug. Just a theory, or it could be like you suggest and have an internal spark gap for reliability. Jack Ward Now in Knoxville, TN, USA On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 2:15 AM T <st2_@ticino.com> wrote: > Thanks, Jack! > > Anyway, if one plug is not there, there is (hopefully) an internal spark > gap (in parallel with the plug) to protect the coil (otherwise the coil > will destroy itself from internal arcing) and allow the other plug to fire. > > Tom > > > On 8/25/2020 5:08 AM, Jack Ward wrote: > > Coil wiring diagram. > > Jack Ward > Knoxville, TN, USA > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:58 AM T <st2_@ticino.com> wrote: > >> Gnd-plug-coil1-coil2-plug-gnd. >> >> Remove one plug, the internal spark gap will fire. >> >> Parallel will not work. >> >> I am an EE, and three of my bikes are twin-spark (2x LMIV, SS1000DS). >> >> Tom >> >> >> On 8/24/2020 3:18 PM, James Calandro wrote: >> >> I do not see how they could be in series. My logic for saying parallel >> is that in series if one we totally disconnected like mine was then both >> would not work and my bike would have been running on one cylinder. It was >> clearly running on both cylinders just poorly at low rpm and part >> throttle. It was miserable in intown traffic but was almost normal out on >> the open highway. Not saying you are wrong because I really do not know >> but just sharing my logic. Christmas tree lights that are in series have >> the whole string go out when one bulb burns out or is removed. >> >> Jim >> Jim Calandro >> il Capo >> US DESMO >> www.usdesmo.com >> 704-843-0429 >> >> >> >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. >> www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> >> >> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:46 AM T <st2_@ticino.com> wrote: >> >>> No, they are in series. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> On 8/22/2020 4:19 PM, James Calandro wrote: >>> >>> It is one coil with two outlets so I assume they are in parallel. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>> and >>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>> _____________________ >>> Ducati mailing list >>> Ducati@list.ducati.net >>> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >>> Mailto: capod2t@gmail.com >>> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news:http://www.ductalk.com/ >> andhttps://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing listDucati@list.ducati.nethttp://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: st2_@ticino.com >> >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: jaxn51@gmail.com >> > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news:http://www.ductalk.com/ > andhttps://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing listDucati@list.ducati.nethttp://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: st2_@ticino.com > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: jaxn51@gmail.com >