Thank you all very much for your wisdom. Ed, I see the real possibilty of
my ancestor being "Mary Margaret" and needing to be distinguished from her
sister"Mary Ann" who, I failed to mention may have been in the same voyage
as Ann Conway.
Lizanne McGarvey Smith
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All good points (which I wished I had mentioned) but just to complicate
things a bit further, the name "Mary Margaret" with both names being the
person's Given Name (i.e. the 'first name' is Mary Margaret) is not
uncommon.
If the family had one daughter named Mary Margaret and one named Mary Ann.
they may have referred to the one as Margaret and to the other as Ann (or
some other variation). I do have a nephew who is called by the second part
of his first name.
Ed.
On Thursday, September 26, 2024 at 08:42:07 PM EDT, Gordon Wilkinson
via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
In our Family Bible, my great grandmother is recorded as both Margaret
and Margret on the same page but in different places. Margt being an
abbreviation of Margaret/Margret. Literacy was not a strong point in the
19thC. ☹️
Gordon
On 27/09/2024 4:50 am, Dorothy Gaunt via CoTyroneList wrote:
Have you seen the original rather than just a transcript? I always
double-check when Margt/Mary occurs as it?s easy to get it wrong. But as
your example has a t at the end, i would go with Margaret. And check to see
if the clerk abbreviated other names. Dorothy
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On 27 Sep 2024, at 2:51?AM, edward.lowitz1--- via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
? Where was the name "Margt" notated? On the passenger list?
If the name was on the passenger list, presumably, it was provided by
Conway and he would have known his mother's name. The name on the Death
cert was provided by someone other than Conway who might have gotten it
wrong.
In either case, there is always the possibility that the shipping clerk
or the doctor got it wrong.
As the clerk and the doctor were paid to record info correctly, I'd go
with the name on the passenger list until I got the name from other
records.
Ed.
On Thursday, September 26, 2024 at 09:54:22 AM EDT, Lizanne Smith
via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
My great great grandmother, "Margt" Conway McGarvey was a passenger on
the Marchioness of Clydesdale with 2 sons John and Joseph. The ship left
Glasgow on Nov 11, 1851 bound for Philadelphia, PA, USA. Other records:
1860- 1900 US census, Death certificate list her as "Mary" McGarvey. Would
it be possible that Margt and Mary are the same person? Thank you, Lizanne
McGarvey Smith
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