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Louise Clarkson
Mon, Jun 24, 2024 8:23 AM

Hi Chris - I have a man in my tree, born in Donegal, who returned from New
South Wales, Australia, in about 1883
While I have not been able to find his passage back, yet, I suggest you
consider that many ships carrying Irish went from the Colonies or US via
Scotland, often Glasgow - the same way that many left.
I only knew of this journey, because he returned in time for the 1901
census, and his wife's birthplace was listed.
Check the Scottish censuses just in case your person was there at the time,
prior to their onward journey to Ireland
The other major port of travel was Cork.
You can track ships via the 'Shipping News' in newspapers (the british
newspaper archive will tell you when they arrive in Port - you can get
a month's subscription cheaply)).
Lots of NY newspapers are free from 'Chronicling America'
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/

best wishes,
Louise

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Ships returning to Ireland  (Len Swindley)

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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Ships returning to Ireland
Thanks Chris.
The passenger list of the Cannon was located in a FHL film of a collection
of church records held in the Armagh County Museum (no reference to it in
the catalogue) and extracted it as potentially useful to researchers.
I recall attending a lecture at PRONI some years ago and it was stated
that there was no systematic recording of emigration from Ireland until
c1900 and any records would be held at the port of disembarkation whether
in North America, Australia or New Zealand; I guess that applies for
returning citizens.
A Google search indicates that there are some pre1900 shipping records on
a couple of commercial genealogical websites (pay to view). Hope this is
useful.
Kind regards,
Len Swindley

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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Ships returning to Ireland

Thank you Jim and Len … I have been searching for a ship retuning to
Ireland from NY sometime between April and December 1883.
I have not had any luck … may I ask where/how you searched for ships
returning to Ireland?
Thank you, Chris


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Hi Chris - I have a man in my tree, born in Donegal, who returned from New South Wales, Australia, in about 1883 While I have not been able to find his passage back, yet, I suggest you consider that many ships carrying Irish went from the Colonies or US via Scotland, often Glasgow - the same way that many left. I only knew of this journey, because he returned in time for the 1901 census, and his wife's birthplace was listed. Check the Scottish censuses just in case your person was there at the time, prior to their onward journey to Ireland The other major port of travel was Cork. You can track ships via the 'Shipping News' in newspapers (the british newspaper archive will tell you when they arrive in Port - you can get a month's subscription cheaply)). Lots of NY newspapers are free from 'Chronicling America' https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/ best wishes, Louise On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 3:30 PM < cotyronelist-request@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote: > Send CoTyroneList mailing list submissions to > cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > cotyronelist-request@list.cotyroneireland.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CoTyroneList digest..." > ================================= > If you wish to respond to one particular email, please remove all the > other emails from your reply before sending. > ================================= > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Ships returning to Ireland (Len Swindley) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Len Swindley <len_swindley@hotmail.com> > To: "cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com" < > cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> > Cc: Bill And Chris Scarrow <bcscarrow@gmail.com> > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 10:55:09 +0000 > Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Ships returning to Ireland > Thanks Chris. > The passenger list of the Cannon was located in a FHL film of a collection > of church records held in the Armagh County Museum (no reference to it in > the catalogue) and extracted it as potentially useful to researchers. > I recall attending a lecture at PRONI some years ago and it was stated > that there was no systematic recording of emigration from Ireland until > c1900 and any records would be held at the port of disembarkation whether > in North America, Australia or New Zealand; I guess that applies for > returning citizens. > A Google search indicates that there are some pre1900 shipping records on > a couple of commercial genealogical websites (pay to view). Hope this is > useful. > Kind regards, > Len Swindley > ------------------------------ > *From:* Bill And Chris Scarrow via CoTyroneList < > cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 June 2024 10:58 AM > *To:* cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com < > cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> > *Cc:* Bill And Chris Scarrow <bcscarrow@gmail.com> > *Subject:* [CoTyroneMailingList] Ships returning to Ireland > > Thank you Jim and Len … I have been searching for a ship retuning to > Ireland from NY sometime between April and December 1883. > I have not had any luck … may I ask where/how you searched for ships > returning to Ireland? > Thank you, Chris > ================================= > Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com > List Archive - > https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com > Join the list by sending an email to - > cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > To receive the Digest version, send an email to - jamckane@gmail.com > Unsubscribe by sending an email to - > cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > ================================= > ================================= > If you wish to respond to one particular email, please remove all the > other emails from your reply before sending. > ================================= > Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com > List Archive - > https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com > Join the list by sending an email to - > cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > To individual emails instead of the Digest - send an email to: > cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com > Unsubscribe by sending an email to - > cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > ================================= >