To All, I hate to bother everyone on this, however I am at a standstill on my research and welcome any and all advice!  My wife and I are heading to Ireland in late August and we plan on doing some genealogy work on both her family and mine.   On my side, I believe my 2nd Great Grandfather James Rodgers emigrated with his three siblings and unfortunately, I do not know if their parents were still living and stayed in Ireland or were deceased at that time.  Here is the information I was able to find on the Barque Envoy manifest. May 4, 1849 departed Londonderry for Philadelphia, PA, USAFrancis Rodgers age 20 ~ 1829James Rodgers age 18 ~ 1831Mary Rodgers age 16 ~ 1833Eleanor Rodgers age 14 ~ 1835 It is very possible that my 3rd Great Grandfather & Grandmother had siblings that remained in Ireland and I am hoping to be able to connect when we are there in late August. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! Jim RodgersDarien, IL USA 

Liam, Thanks for that idea as I have not pursued the MacRory side.   Jim On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 05:54:31 PM CDT, Liam Ó Cuinn via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote: It may help you (or not) to know that the Irish name MacRory was sometimes anglicised to Rodgers/Rogers.   Sent from Mail for Windows   From: Jim Rodgers via CoTyroneList Sent: Dé Céadaoin 14 Meitheamh 2023 23:43 To: cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com Cc: Jim Rodgers Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Rodgers from Castlederg, County Tyrone   To All,   I hate to bother everyone on this, however I am at a standstill on my research and welcome any and all advice!  My wife and I are heading to Ireland in late August and we plan on doing some genealogy work on both her family and mine.     On my side, I believe my 2nd Great Grandfather James Rodgers emigrated with his three siblings and unfortunately, I do not know if their parents were still living and stayed in Ireland or were deceased at that time.  Here is the information I was able to find on the Barque Envoy manifest.   May 4, 1849 departed Londonderry for Philadelphia, PA, USA Francis Rodgers age 20 ~ 1829 James Rodgers age 18 ~ 1831 Mary Rodgers age 16 ~ 1833 Eleanor Rodgers age 14 ~ 1835   It is very possible that my 3rd Great Grandfather & Grandmother had siblings that remained in Ireland and I am hoping to be able to connect when we are there in late August. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.   Thank you!   Jim Rodgers Darien, IL USA       ================================= Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com List Archive - https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com Join the list by sending an email to -  cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com To receive the Digest version, send an email to - cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to -  cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com =================================

Hi Jim, This is the only Rodgers/Rogers family in the 1858 Griffiths Valuation in the Parish of Urney, which is the parish covering the Castlederg area, and it IS a James so, with the Irish naming convention, it could be the father of your James: Griffith's Valuation Record Information Tenant Family Name 1 ROGERS Forename 1 JAMES Landlord Family Name 2 IRWIN Forename 2 WILLIAM Location County TYRONE Barony STRABANE, LOWER Union STRABANE Parish URNEY Townland MAGIRR Place Name BRIDGE END Place Type OTHER Publication Details Position on Page 46 Printing Date 1858 Act 15&16 Sheet Number Map Reference 24 55 James held a reasonable sized property on the edge of Strabane, which is NOT Castlederg and makes it more likely he would have given Strabane as his address rather than Castlederg. You do not say why you think it is Castlederg that was your Rogers home. This source can be found here and comes with maps which often identify the exact spot in the townland of Magirr where the Rogers would have lived: https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ You would need to use the GV Revision Books, BMDs and the two censuses of 1901 and 1911 to see what happened to this James Rogers, what age he was and whether he had any siblings. That requires quite a lot of research and expertise. There being no other Rodgers family in either Urney or Termonamongen, the parish next door to Urney and close to Castlederg, you would want to pursue this family. However, as you say it is possible the father was deceased or already in America, or left shortly after. This is the best we can do because there are no civil BMD records for the period you mention, they only began in 1864, and church records are hard to come by and often do not go that far back either. Btw, were your folks Catholic or Protestant? Rogers could be either. If Protestant then Protestant marriages start in 1845 and if Catholic, Catholic church registers are online here: https://registers.nli.ie/ Hope this is of some assistance, Boyd Gray https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/ http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/ On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 at 23:43, Jim Rodgers via CoTyroneList < cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote: > To All, > > I hate to bother everyone on this, however I am at a standstill on my > research and welcome any and all advice! My wife and I are heading to > Ireland in late August and we plan on doing some genealogy work on both her > family and mine. > > On my side, I believe my 2nd Great Grandfather James Rodgers emigrated > with his three siblings and unfortunately, I do not know if their parents > were still living and stayed in Ireland or were deceased at that time. > Here is the information I was able to find on the Barque Envoy manifest. > > May 4, 1849 departed Londonderry for Philadelphia, PA, USA > Francis Rodgers age 20 ~ 1829 > James Rodgers age 18 ~ 1831 > Mary Rodgers age 16 ~ 1833 > Eleanor Rodgers age 14 ~ 1835 > > It is very possible that my 3rd Great Grandfather & Grandmother had > siblings that remained in Ireland and I am hoping to be able to connect > when we are there in late August. Any suggestions would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thank you! > > Jim Rodgers > Darien, IL USA > > > ================================= > Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com > List Archive - > https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com > Join the list by sending an email to - > cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > To receive the Digest version, send an email to - > cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com > Unsubscribe by sending an email to - > cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > =================================