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Karen Miller
Fri, Aug 23, 2024 3:27 PM

Before we leave the topic of schools, I have a question arising from a source local to the US.  It contains information about the education of William Hopper Ewing (1827-1899) from County Tyrone.  The pages about his life includes this statement, “Captain William H. Ewing received his education in Ireland, while in subscription school, kept [in] an upper room of his father’s house.” [p.15].  Ewing and his family emigrated to the US in 1836 when he would have been about 10 years old. The source is History on the Riverfront: the Newton Hamilton Sesquicentennial by Charles Samuel “Sam” Miller (Newton Hamilton, Mifflin County, Pennsylvania, 1993.)

The lists of schools Len has been transcribing name the master of the school and its general location.  None reference a school in a private house.  Is there a way to dig deeper into locations?  Newspapers perhaps?

Thank you
Karen Miller
Wilmette, Illinois USA

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Irish language medium schools are a very recent development.  The word Gaol was/is an alternative spelling for jail.
IncidentallyJohn Cunningham is a well recognised  Fermanagh historian,  his numerous books are a very good resource for anyone interested in the history of County Fermanagh.

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Liam’s explanation is more credible. Maybe Cunningham made an incorrect
assumption ??

James

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Liam, this is an incorrect assumption. Please refer to the snip below:
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia

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This is a Gaelscoil. Irish language medium school.

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I was startled to see a Gaol School mentioned in the list of schools in
Enniskillen.  I have not seen this type of entry in the other published
lists.  Does anyone know how or why this school was established?  Were
the students primarily adults or does this type of school imply
children were incarcerated as well?

Karen Miller

Wilmette, Illinois, USA

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Before we leave the topic of schools, I have a question arising from a source local to the US. It contains information about the education of William Hopper Ewing (1827-1899) from County Tyrone. The pages about his life includes this statement, “Captain William H. Ewing received his education in Ireland, while in subscription school, kept [in] an upper room of his father’s house.” [p.15]. Ewing and his family emigrated to the US in 1836 when he would have been about 10 years old. The source is History on the Riverfront: the Newton Hamilton Sesquicentennial by Charles Samuel “Sam” Miller (Newton Hamilton, Mifflin County, Pennsylvania, 1993.) The lists of schools Len has been transcribing name the master of the school and its general location. None reference a school in a private house. Is there a way to dig deeper into locations? Newspapers perhaps? Thank you Karen Miller Wilmette, Illinois USA > On Aug 23, 2024, at 2:30 AM, cotyronelist-request@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote: > > Send CoTyroneList mailing list submissions to > cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > cotyronelist-request@list.cotyroneireland.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CoTyroneList digest..." > > > ================================= > If you wish to respond to one particular email, please remove all the other emails from your reply before sending. > ================================= > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 1564, Issue 1 (ECardwell) > 2. Gaol School (Karen Miller) > 3. Re: CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 1564, Issue 1 (Len Swindley) > 4. Re: Gaol School (Len Swindley) > 5. Re: CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 1564, Issue 1 (James Huey) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 12:29:37 +0100 > From: ECardwell <ecardwell@btinternet.com> > Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 1564, > Issue 1 > To: Liam Ó Cuinn via CoTyroneList > <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> > Cc: Len Swindley <len_swindley@hotmail.com>, James Huey > <james@jameshuey.com> > Message-ID: <454c838c-6b70-4a96-963b-7f46ffab182a@btinternet.com> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----PCTKJ5WCFSM4YSCZZ4CX5I36H3MMCG" > > Irish language medium schools are a very recent development. The word Gaol was/is an alternative spelling for jail. > IncidentallyJohn Cunningham is a well recognised Fermanagh historian, his numerous books are a very good resource for anyone interested in the history of County Fermanagh. > > Evelyn > > ⁣Get BlueMail for Android ​ > > On 22 Aug 2024, 01:25, at 01:25, James Huey via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote: >> Liam’s explanation is more credible. Maybe Cunningham made an incorrect >> assumption ?? >> >> >> James >> >> From: Len Swindley via CoTyroneList >> <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> >> Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2024 7:33 AM >> To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List >> <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com>; James McKane >> <jamckane@gmail.com> >> Cc: Len Swindley <len_swindley@hotmail.com> >> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 1564, Issue >> 1 >> >> Liam, this is an incorrect assumption. Please refer to the snip below: >> Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia >> >> [cid:image001.png@01DAF47D.6AD6C3C0] >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Liam Ó Cuinn via CoTyroneList >> <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com>> >> Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2024 6:14 AM >> To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List >> <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com>> >> Cc: Liam Ó Cuinn <mullach26@gmail.com<mailto:mullach26@gmail.com>> >> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 1564, Issue >> 1 >> >> >> This is a Gaelscoil. Irish language medium school. >> >> >> >> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for >> Windows >> >> >> >> From: Karen Miller via >> CoTyroneList<mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> >> Sent: Dé Céadaoin 21 Lúnasa 2024 13:59 >> To: >> cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> >> Cc: Karen Miller<mailto:karenamiller@comcast.net> >> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 1564, Issue >> 1 >> >> >> >> I was startled to see a Gaol School mentioned in the list of schools in >> Enniskillen. I have not seen this type of entry in the other published >> lists. Does anyone know how or why this school was established? Were >> the students primarily adults or does this type of school imply >> children were incarcerated as well? >> >> >> >> Karen Miller >> >> Wilmette, Illinois, USA >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> >> >> On 21 Aug 2024, at 2:30 AM, >> cotyronelist-request@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist-request@list.cotyroneireland.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Send CoTyroneList mailing list submissions to >> >> cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> >> >> >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or >> >> body 'help' to >> >> cotyronelist-request@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist-request@list.cotyroneireland.com> >> >> >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> >> cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com> >> >> >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> >> than "Re: Contents of CoTyroneList digest..." >> >> >> >> >> >> ================================= >> >> If you wish to respond to one particular email, please remove all the >> other emails from your reply before sending. >> >> ================================= >> >> >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> >> >> 1. New Content - Schools in Enniskillen Parish, County Fermanagh, >> Northern Ireland 1835 >> >> (James McKane) >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Message: 1 >> >> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 04:48:11 -0400 >> >> From: James McKane <jamckane@gmail.com<mailto:jamckane@gmail.com>> >> >> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] New Content - Schools in Enniskillen >> >> Parish, County Fermanagh, Northern Ireland 1835 >> >> To: "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" >> >> <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com>> >> >> Message-ID: >> >> <CADP7HviAk_8nEeVXGT+r_Ex-Ew-a3Yv6pyiyuccvFHGbuN1qLw@mail.gmail.com<mailto:CADP7HviAk_8nEeVXGT+r_Ex-Ew-a3Yv6pyiyuccvFHGbuN1qLw@mail.gmail.com>> >> >> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >> >> boundary="0000000000005daac30620197e47" >> >> >> >> Schools in Enniskillen Parish, County Fermanagh, Northern Ireland 1835 >> >> <https://www.cotyroneireland.com/schools/enniskillen.html> >> >> >> >> Thanks again to Len Swindley for another great addition to CTI! >> >> >> >> Jim McKane >> >> Kitchener, Ontario >> >>