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Dave Mitchell

Thu, Jul 29, 2021 8:21 AM

Dear Listers - and especially Len and Jim

Thank you so much for posting these family notes.

What Len does too, is not just to transcribe the marriage entry - he also
does this in a way that records also the officiating clergyman.

In 1848, Thomas Black and Hanna Gilmore were married in Belfast, in the
Linenhall Street Church (Reformed Presbyterian), by the Rev. Robert Knox ..

I could find, from www.irishgenealogy.ie
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie the actual marriage register entry - in
Rev. Robert Knox's own handwriting
This on a page of several marriages, all by him, and where he
certified the whole page too - so lots of examples of his signature
By looking at the .pdf pages before and after (just change the last
digit in the page number), I could get examples from several pages

Rev. Robert Knox was a County Tyrone man, the 3rd son of Hugh Knox at Urney
and grandson of Gustavus Knox of Little Drumenny, both in co. Tyrone.

He was also a great-uncle to my own grandfather.

So, thanks, Len - you've done it again! You've given me a bookful of his
own original handwriting, from over 170 years ago ..

Your kindness and thoroughness makes for marvellous help and exciting
discoveries for others.

Thank you, thank you and thank you again! All 100 000 of them thank you's
..

Dave Mitchell

Cape Town

South Africa

Dear Listers - and especially Len and Jim Thank you so much for posting these family notes. What Len does too, is not just to transcribe the marriage entry - he also does this in a way that records also the officiating clergyman. In 1848, Thomas Black and Hanna Gilmore were married in Belfast, in the Linenhall Street Church (Reformed Presbyterian), by the Rev. Robert Knox .. * I could find, from www.irishgenealogy.ie <http://www.irishgenealogy.ie> the actual marriage register entry - in Rev. Robert Knox's own handwriting * This on a page of several marriages, all by him, and where he certified the whole page too - so lots of examples of his signature * By looking at the .pdf pages before and after (just change the last digit in the page number), I could get examples from several pages Rev. Robert Knox was a County Tyrone man, the 3rd son of Hugh Knox at Urney and grandson of Gustavus Knox of Little Drumenny, both in co. Tyrone. He was also a great-uncle to my own grandfather. So, thanks, Len - you've done it again! You've given me a bookful of his own original handwriting, from over 170 years ago .. Your kindness and thoroughness makes for marvellous help and exciting discoveries for others. Thank you, thank you and thank you again! All 100 000 of them thank you's .. Dave Mitchell Cape Town South Africa

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James McKane

Thu, Jul 29, 2021 8:42 AM

Dave - it is so fantastic to hear of your wonderful news! YES, YES and
YES, Len regularly performs magic with his hard work but unfortunately we
don't often learn of those successes.

THANKS so much for your accolades which will keep driving us forward.
Jim

Jim McKane
Kitchener, Ontario

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 4:22 AM Dave Mitchell via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:

Dear Listers – and especially Len and Jim

Thank you so much for posting these family notes.

What Len does too, is not just to transcribe the marriage entry – he also
does this in a way that records also the officiating clergyman.

In 1848, Thomas Black and Hanna Gilmore were married in Belfast, in the
Linenhall Street Church (Reformed Presbyterian), by the Rev. Robert Knox ….

- I could find, from  *www.irishgenealogy.ie
<http://www.irishgenealogy.ie>*  the actual marriage register entry –
in Rev. Robert Knox’s own handwriting



- This on a page of several marriages, all by him, and where he
certified the whole page too – so lots of examples of his signature



- By looking at the .pdf pages before and after *(just change the last
digit in the page number),* I could get examples from several pages

Rev. Robert Knox was a County Tyrone man, the 3rd son of Hugh Knox at
Urney and grandson of Gustavus Knox of Little Drumenny, both in co. Tyrone.

He was also a great-uncle to my own grandfather.

So, thanks, Len – you’ve done it again! You’ve given me a bookful of
his own original handwriting, from over 170 years ago ….

Your kindness and thoroughness makes for marvellous help and exciting
discoveries for others.

Thank you, thank you and thank you again! All 100 000 of them thank you’s
….

Dave Mitchell

Cape Town

South Africa

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Dave - it is so fantastic to hear of your wonderful news! YES, YES and YES, Len regularly performs magic with his hard work but unfortunately we don't often learn of those successes. THANKS so much for your accolades which will keep driving us forward. Jim Jim McKane Kitchener, Ontario On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 4:22 AM Dave Mitchell via CoTyroneList < cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote: > Dear Listers – and especially Len and Jim > > > > Thank you so much for posting these family notes. > > > > What Len does too, is not just to transcribe the marriage entry – he also > does this in a way that *records also the officiating clergyman*. > > > > In 1848, Thomas Black and Hanna Gilmore were married in Belfast, in the > Linenhall Street Church (Reformed Presbyterian), by the Rev. Robert Knox …. > > > > - I could find, from *www.irishgenealogy.ie > <http://www.irishgenealogy.ie>* the actual marriage register entry – > in Rev. Robert Knox’s own handwriting > > > > - This on a page of several marriages, all by him, and where he > certified the whole page too – so lots of examples of his signature > > > > - By looking at the .pdf pages before and after *(just change the last > digit in the page number),* I could get examples from several pages > > > Rev. Robert Knox was a County Tyrone man, the 3rd son of Hugh Knox at > Urney and grandson of Gustavus Knox of Little Drumenny, both in co. Tyrone. > > He was also a great-uncle to my own grandfather. > > > > So, thanks, Len – *you’ve done it again!* You’ve given me a bookful of > his own original handwriting, from over 170 years ago …. > > > > Your kindness and thoroughness makes for marvellous help and exciting > discoveries for others. > > > > Thank you, thank you and thank you again! All 100 000 of them thank you’s > …. > > > Dave Mitchell > > Cape Town > > South Africa > ================================= > Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com > List Archive - > https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com > Join the list by sending an email to - > cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > To receive the Digest version, send an email to - > cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com > Unsubscribe by sending an email to - > cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > =================================

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Susan Oleskiw

Thu, Jul 29, 2021 5:00 PM

Dear Len, Jim and Dave

I too appreciate all the work done to make records available to the
diaspora.

I carefully read every new addition looking for my Black and other
surnames from the barony of Dungannon, County Tyrone. Alas, I haven't
yet found the records for a Black family with a possible father of
Robert or James (using Scots-Irish naming custom) whose children were
born from 1802 - 1822. Some children must have remained in Co. Tyrone
because only 4, with their families, travelled to Canada.

Has anyone ever transcribed the list of passengers for the Nelson
Village which left Belfast May 19, 1847 and arrived at Quebec June 26, 1847?

I now have two possible clues that they may have come on that ship. What
company owned that particular ship?

Your work is a blessing to many. Thank you.

Susan Black Oleskiw

On 2021-07-29 2:21 a.m., Dave Mitchell via CoTyroneList wrote:

Dear Listers – and especially Len and Jim

Thank you so much for posting these family notes.

What Len does too, is not just to transcribe the marriage entry – he
also does this in a way that records also the officiating clergyman.

In 1848, Thomas Black and Hanna Gilmore were married in Belfast, in
the Linenhall Street Church (Reformed Presbyterian), by the Rev.
Robert Knox ….

I could find, from www.irishgenealogy.ie
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie the actual marriage register
entry – in Rev. Robert Knox’s own handwriting
This on a page of several marriages, all by him, and where he
certified the whole page too – so lots of examples of his signature
By looking at the .pdf pages before and after /(just change the
last digit in the page number),/ I could get examples from several
pages

Rev. Robert Knox was a County Tyrone man, the 3rd son of Hugh Knox at
Urney and grandson of Gustavus Knox of Little Drumenny, both in co.
Tyrone.

He was also a great-uncle to my own grandfather.

So, thanks, Len – /you’ve done it again!/ You’ve given me a bookful
of his own original handwriting, from over 170 years ago ….

Your kindness and thoroughness makes for marvellous help and exciting
discoveries for others.

Thank you, thank you and thank you again! All 100 000 of them thank
you’s ….

Dave Mitchell

Cape Town

South Africa

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Dear Len, Jim and Dave I too appreciate all the work done to make records available to the diaspora. I carefully read every new addition looking for my Black and other surnames from the barony of Dungannon, County Tyrone. Alas, I haven't yet found the records for a Black family with a possible father of Robert or James (using Scots-Irish naming custom) whose children were born from 1802 - 1822. Some children must have remained in Co. Tyrone because only 4, with their families, travelled to Canada. Has anyone ever transcribed the list of passengers for the Nelson Village which left Belfast May 19, 1847 and arrived at Quebec June 26, 1847? I now have two possible clues that they may have come on that ship. What company owned that particular ship? Your work is a blessing to many. Thank you. Susan Black Oleskiw On 2021-07-29 2:21 a.m., Dave Mitchell via CoTyroneList wrote: > > Dear Listers – and especially Len and Jim > > Thank you so much for posting these family notes. > > What Len does too, is not just to transcribe the marriage entry – he > also does this in a way that _records also the officiating clergyman_. > > In 1848, Thomas Black and Hanna Gilmore were married in Belfast, in > the Linenhall Street Church (Reformed Presbyterian), by the Rev. > Robert Knox …. > > * I could find, from _www.irishgenealogy.ie > <http://www.irishgenealogy.ie>_ the actual marriage register > entry – in Rev. Robert Knox’s own handwriting > > * This on a page of several marriages, all by him, and where he > certified the whole page too – so lots of examples of his signature > > * By looking at the .pdf pages before and after /(just change the > last digit in the page number),/ I could get examples from several > pages > > > Rev. Robert Knox was a County Tyrone man, the 3rd son of Hugh Knox at > Urney and grandson of Gustavus Knox of Little Drumenny, both in co. > Tyrone. > > He was also a great-uncle to my own grandfather. > > So, thanks, Len – /you’ve done it again!/ You’ve given me a bookful > of his own original handwriting, from over 170 years ago …. > > Your kindness and thoroughness makes for marvellous help and exciting > discoveries for others. > > Thank you, thank you and thank you again! All 100 000 of them thank > you’s …. > > > Dave Mitchell > > Cape Town > > South Africa > > > ================================= > Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com > List Archive - https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com > Join the list by sending an email to - cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > To receive the Digest version, send an email to - cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com > Unsubscribe by sending an email to - cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > ================================= -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Roger Cousens

Fri, Jul 30, 2021 12:18 AM

Dear Dave,
I would be interested in seeing your Knox tree. I have Knoxes in the line that I am investigating, from Strabane. In the mid-late 1700s there were several in the town, at least two of them running inns/pubs. I had the impression that they may have links to Knoxes at Dungannan, but Urney is much closer at hand. My knowledge is based entirely on a few deeds.
Roger

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Dear Len, Jim and Dave

I too appreciate all the work done to make records available to the diaspora.

I carefully read every new addition looking for my Black and other surnames from the barony of Dungannon, County Tyrone. Alas, I haven't yet found the records for a Black family with a possible father of Robert or James (using Scots-Irish naming custom) whose children were born from 1802 - 1822. Some children must have remained in Co. Tyrone because only 4, with their families, travelled to Canada.

Has anyone ever transcribed the list of passengers for the Nelson Village which left Belfast May 19, 1847 and arrived at Quebec June 26, 1847?

I now have two possible clues that they may have come on that ship. What company owned that particular ship?

Your work is a blessing to many. Thank you.

Susan Black Oleskiw

On 2021-07-29 2:21 a.m., Dave Mitchell via CoTyroneList wrote:
Dear Listers - and especially Len and Jim

Thank you so much for posting these family notes.

What Len does too, is not just to transcribe the marriage entry - he also does this in a way that records also the officiating clergyman.

In 1848, Thomas Black and Hanna Gilmore were married in Belfast, in the Linenhall Street Church (Reformed Presbyterian), by the Rev. Robert Knox ....

I could find, from www.irishgenealogy.ie http://www.irishgenealogy.ie the actual marriage register entry - in Rev. Robert Knox's own handwriting
This on a page of several marriages, all by him, and where he certified the whole page too - so lots of examples of his signature
By looking at the .pdf pages before and after (just change the last digit in the page number), I could get examples from several pages

Rev. Robert Knox was a County Tyrone man, the 3rd son of Hugh Knox at Urney and grandson of Gustavus Knox of Little Drumenny, both in co. Tyrone.

He was also a great-uncle to my own grandfather.

So, thanks, Len - you've done it again! You've given me a bookful of his own original handwriting, from over 170 years ago ....

Your kindness and thoroughness makes for marvellous help and exciting discoveries for others.

Thank you, thank you and thank you again! All 100 000 of them thank you's ....

Dave Mitchell
Cape Town
South Africa

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Dear Dave, I would be interested in seeing your Knox tree. I have Knoxes in the line that I am investigating, from Strabane. In the mid-late 1700s there were several in the town, at least two of them running inns/pubs. I had the impression that they may have links to Knoxes at Dungannan, but Urney is much closer at hand. My knowledge is based entirely on a few deeds. Roger From: Susan Oleskiw via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Sent: Friday, 30 July 2021 3:01 AM To: cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com Cc: Susan Oleskiw <se.oles@telus.net> Subject: [EXT] [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: New Content - Black Genealogy Notes, Cos. Donegal, Fermanagh, Londonderry & Tyrone External email: Please exercise caution ________________________________ Dear Len, Jim and Dave I too appreciate all the work done to make records available to the diaspora. I carefully read every new addition looking for my Black and other surnames from the barony of Dungannon, County Tyrone. Alas, I haven't yet found the records for a Black family with a possible father of Robert or James (using Scots-Irish naming custom) whose children were born from 1802 - 1822. Some children must have remained in Co. Tyrone because only 4, with their families, travelled to Canada. Has anyone ever transcribed the list of passengers for the Nelson Village which left Belfast May 19, 1847 and arrived at Quebec June 26, 1847? I now have two possible clues that they may have come on that ship. What company owned that particular ship? Your work is a blessing to many. Thank you. Susan Black Oleskiw On 2021-07-29 2:21 a.m., Dave Mitchell via CoTyroneList wrote: Dear Listers - and especially Len and Jim Thank you so much for posting these family notes. What Len does too, is not just to transcribe the marriage entry - he also does this in a way that records also the officiating clergyman. In 1848, Thomas Black and Hanna Gilmore were married in Belfast, in the Linenhall Street Church (Reformed Presbyterian), by the Rev. Robert Knox .... 1. I could find, from www.irishgenealogy.ie<http://www.irishgenealogy.ie> the actual marriage register entry - in Rev. Robert Knox's own handwriting 1. This on a page of several marriages, all by him, and where he certified the whole page too - so lots of examples of his signature 1. By looking at the .pdf pages before and after (just change the last digit in the page number), I could get examples from several pages Rev. Robert Knox was a County Tyrone man, the 3rd son of Hugh Knox at Urney and grandson of Gustavus Knox of Little Drumenny, both in co. Tyrone. He was also a great-uncle to my own grandfather. So, thanks, Len - you've done it again! You've given me a bookful of his own original handwriting, from over 170 years ago .... Your kindness and thoroughness makes for marvellous help and exciting discoveries for others. Thank you, thank you and thank you again! All 100 000 of them thank you's .... Dave Mitchell Cape Town South Africa ================================= Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> List Archive - https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com<https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com> Join the list by sending an email to - cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com> To receive the Digest version, send an email to - cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com> Unsubscribe by sending an email to - cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com> ================================= [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> Virus-free. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>

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Len Swindley

Wed, Sep 22, 2021 11:58 AM

Hello Susan,

Thanks for your kind comments.

I venture to say that the passenger list of the Nelson Village has not been transcribed; certainly not on the Ships List website www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.shtml http://www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.shtml

Ship Arrivals Quebec, Canada June 1847 part 2http://www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.shtml
Mr. Wm. Henry, of this city, furnished the Exchange, yesterday, with the following extracts of letters received by the Eastern Mail:--"Chatham, 3 rd June, 1847 "Captain Thain, of the ship Loostauk, 636 tons, from Liverpool to Quebec, out 7 weeks, had, when she left Liverpool, 349 passengers, out of which 117 have died, and of the ship's crew only five are able to work.
www.theshipslist.com

Arr. Quebec June 27 1847; Master: McBernie, 264 passengers; consigned to W. Henry. Is there a record repository in Canada dedicated to maritime immigration - perhaps they could assist?
Regards,
Len

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Dear Len, Jim and Dave

I too appreciate all the work done to make records available to the diaspora.

I carefully read every new addition looking for my Black and other surnames from the barony of Dungannon, County Tyrone. Alas, I haven't yet found the records for a Black family with a possible father of Robert or James (using Scots-Irish naming custom) whose children were born from 1802 - 1822. Some children must have remained in Co. Tyrone because only 4, with their families, travelled to Canada.

Has anyone ever transcribed the list of passengers for the Nelson Village which left Belfast May 19, 1847 and arrived at Quebec June 26, 1847?

I now have two possible clues that they may have come on that ship. What company owned that particular ship?

Your work is a blessing to many. Thank you.

Susan Black Oleskiw

On 2021-07-29 2:21 a.m., Dave Mitchell via CoTyroneList wrote:

Dear Listers – and especially Len and Jim

Thank you so much for posting these family notes.

What Len does too, is not just to transcribe the marriage entry – he also does this in a way that records also the officiating clergyman.

In 1848, Thomas Black and Hanna Gilmore were married in Belfast, in the Linenhall Street Church (Reformed Presbyterian), by the Rev. Robert Knox ….

I could find, from www.irishgenealogy.ie http://www.irishgenealogy.ie the actual marriage register entry – in Rev. Robert Knox’s own handwriting
This on a page of several marriages, all by him, and where he certified the whole page too – so lots of examples of his signature
By looking at the .pdf pages before and after (just change the last digit in the page number), I could get examples from several pages

Rev. Robert Knox was a County Tyrone man, the 3rd son of Hugh Knox at Urney and grandson of Gustavus Knox of Little Drumenny, both in co. Tyrone.

He was also a great-uncle to my own grandfather.

So, thanks, Len – you’ve done it again! You’ve given me a bookful of his own original handwriting, from over 170 years ago ….

Your kindness and thoroughness makes for marvellous help and exciting discoveries for others.

Thank you, thank you and thank you again! All 100 000 of them thank you’s ….

Dave Mitchell

Cape Town

South Africa

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Hello Susan, Thanks for your kind comments. I venture to say that the passenger list of the Nelson Village has not been transcribed; certainly not on the Ships List website www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.shtml<http://www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.shtml> Ship Arrivals Quebec, Canada June 1847 part 2<http://www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.shtml> Mr. Wm. Henry, of this city, furnished the Exchange, yesterday, with the following extracts of letters received by the Eastern Mail:--"Chatham, 3 rd June, 1847 "Captain Thain, of the ship Loostauk, 636 tons, from Liverpool to Quebec, out 7 weeks, had, when she left Liverpool, 349 passengers, out of which 117 have died, and of the ship's crew only five are able to work. www.theshipslist.com Arr. Quebec June 27 1847; Master: McBernie, 264 passengers; consigned to W. Henry. Is there a record repository in Canada dedicated to maritime immigration - perhaps they could assist? Regards, Len ________________________________ From: Susan Oleskiw via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Sent: Friday, 30 July 2021 3:00 AM To: cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Cc: Susan Oleskiw <se.oles@telus.net> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: New Content - Black Genealogy Notes, Cos. Donegal, Fermanagh, Londonderry & Tyrone Dear Len, Jim and Dave I too appreciate all the work done to make records available to the diaspora. I carefully read every new addition looking for my Black and other surnames from the barony of Dungannon, County Tyrone. Alas, I haven't yet found the records for a Black family with a possible father of Robert or James (using Scots-Irish naming custom) whose children were born from 1802 - 1822. Some children must have remained in Co. Tyrone because only 4, with their families, travelled to Canada. Has anyone ever transcribed the list of passengers for the Nelson Village which left Belfast May 19, 1847 and arrived at Quebec June 26, 1847? I now have two possible clues that they may have come on that ship. What company owned that particular ship? Your work is a blessing to many. Thank you. Susan Black Oleskiw On 2021-07-29 2:21 a.m., Dave Mitchell via CoTyroneList wrote: Dear Listers – and especially Len and Jim Thank you so much for posting these family notes. What Len does too, is not just to transcribe the marriage entry – he also does this in a way that records also the officiating clergyman. In 1848, Thomas Black and Hanna Gilmore were married in Belfast, in the Linenhall Street Church (Reformed Presbyterian), by the Rev. Robert Knox …. * I could find, from www.irishgenealogy.ie<http://www.irishgenealogy.ie> the actual marriage register entry – in Rev. Robert Knox’s own handwriting * This on a page of several marriages, all by him, and where he certified the whole page too – so lots of examples of his signature * By looking at the .pdf pages before and after (just change the last digit in the page number), I could get examples from several pages Rev. Robert Knox was a County Tyrone man, the 3rd son of Hugh Knox at Urney and grandson of Gustavus Knox of Little Drumenny, both in co. Tyrone. He was also a great-uncle to my own grandfather. So, thanks, Len – you’ve done it again! You’ve given me a bookful of his own original handwriting, from over 170 years ago …. Your kindness and thoroughness makes for marvellous help and exciting discoveries for others. Thank you, thank you and thank you again! All 100 000 of them thank you’s …. Dave Mitchell Cape Town South Africa ================================= Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> List Archive - https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com Join the list by sending an email to - cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com> To receive the Digest version, send an email to - cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com> Unsubscribe by sending an email to - cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com> ================================= [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> Virus-free. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>

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Susan Oleskiw

Fri, Sep 24, 2021 4:24 PM

Thank you, Len

Your ongoing work is hugely appreciated.

I had continued to search myself and found this record. The passenger
numbers for the Nelson Village are a little higher than the source you gave.

I also read through the booklet and found that these passengers were not
assisted immigrants.

I believe that a large group from County Tyrone traveled on this ship
and ended up in Simcoe County Ontario.

No proof so far, but I did find a death at sea of a 2 year old which
could be of my family.

https://www.canadiana.ca/view/oocihm.9_01020/28?r=0&s=1

Regards,

Susan

On 2021-09-22 5:58 a.m., Len Swindley wrote:

Hello Susan,

Thanks for your kind comments.

I venture to say that the passenger list of the Nelson Village has not
been transcribed; certainly not on the Ships List website
www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.shtml
http://www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.shtml

Ship Arrivals Quebec, Canada June 1847 part 2
http://www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.shtml
Mr. Wm. Henry, of this city, furnished the Exchange, yesterday, with
the following extracts of letters received by the Eastern
Mail:--"Chatham, 3 rd June, 1847 "Captain Thain, of the ship Loostauk,
636 tons, from Liverpool to Quebec, out 7 weeks, had, when she left
Liverpool, 349 passengers, out of which 117 have died, and of the
ship's crew only five are able to work.
www.theshipslist.com

Arr. Quebec June 27 1847; Master: McBernie, 264 passengers; consigned
to W. Henry. Is there a record repository in Canada dedicated to
maritime immigration - perhaps they could assist?
Regards,
Len

From: Susan Oleskiw via CoTyroneList
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Sent: Friday, 30 July 2021 3:00 AM
To: cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
Cc: Susan Oleskiw se.oles@telus.net
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: New Content - Black Genealogy
Notes, Cos. Donegal, Fermanagh, Londonderry & Tyrone

Dear Len, Jim and Dave

I too appreciate all the work done to make records available to the
diaspora.

I carefully read every new addition looking for my Black and other
surnames from the barony of Dungannon, County Tyrone. Alas, I haven't
yet found the records for a Black family with a possible father of
Robert or James (using Scots-Irish naming custom) whose children were
born from 1802 - 1822. Some children must have remained in Co. Tyrone
because only 4, with their families, travelled to Canada.

Has anyone ever transcribed the list of passengers for the Nelson
Village which left Belfast May 19, 1847 and arrived at Quebec June 26,
1847?

I now have two possible clues that they may have come on that ship.
What company owned that particular ship?

Your work is a blessing to many. Thank you.

Susan Black Oleskiw

On 2021-07-29 2:21 a.m., Dave Mitchell via CoTyroneList wrote:

Dear Listers – and especially Len and Jim

Thank you so much for posting these family notes.

What Len does too, is not just to transcribe the marriage entry – he
also does this in a way that records also the officiating clergyman.

In 1848, Thomas Black and Hanna Gilmore were married in Belfast, in
the Linenhall Street Church (Reformed Presbyterian), by the Rev.
Robert Knox ….

I could find, from www.irishgenealogy.ie
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie the actual marriage register
entry – in Rev. Robert Knox’s own handwriting
This on a page of several marriages, all by him, and where he
certified the whole page too – so lots of examples of his signature
By looking at the .pdf pages before and after /(just change the
last digit in the page number),/ I could get examples from
several pages

Rev. Robert Knox was a County Tyrone man, the 3rd son of Hugh Knox at
Urney and grandson of Gustavus Knox of Little Drumenny, both in co.
Tyrone.

He was also a great-uncle to my own grandfather.

So, thanks, Len – /you’ve done it again!/ You’ve given me a
bookful of his own original handwriting, from over 170 years ago ….

Your kindness and thoroughness makes for marvellous help and exciting
discoveries for others.

Thank you, thank you and thank you again! All 100 000 of them thank
you’s ….

Dave Mitchell

Cape Town

South Africa

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Thank you, Len Your ongoing work is hugely appreciated. I had continued to search myself and found this record. The passenger numbers for the Nelson Village are a little higher than the source you gave. I also read through the booklet and found that these passengers were not assisted immigrants. I believe that a large group from County Tyrone traveled on this ship and ended up in Simcoe County Ontario. No proof so far, but I did find a death at sea of a 2 year old which could be of my family. https://www.canadiana.ca/view/oocihm.9_01020/28?r=0&s=1 Regards, Susan On 2021-09-22 5:58 a.m., Len Swindley wrote: > Hello Susan, > > Thanks for your kind comments. > > I venture to say that the passenger list of the Nelson Village has not > been transcribed; certainly not on the Ships List website > www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.shtml > <http://www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.shtml> > > Ship Arrivals Quebec, Canada June 1847 part 2 > <http://www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.shtml> > Mr. Wm. Henry, of this city, furnished the Exchange, yesterday, with > the following extracts of letters received by the Eastern > Mail:--"Chatham, 3 rd June, 1847 "Captain Thain, of the ship Loostauk, > 636 tons, from Liverpool to Quebec, out 7 weeks, had, when she left > Liverpool, 349 passengers, out of which 117 have died, and of the > ship's crew only five are able to work. > www.theshipslist.com > > > Arr. Quebec June 27 1847; Master: McBernie, 264 passengers; consigned > to W. Henry. Is there a record repository in Canada dedicated to > maritime immigration - perhaps they could assist? > Regards, > Len > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Susan Oleskiw via CoTyroneList > <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> > *Sent:* Friday, 30 July 2021 3:00 AM > *To:* cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com > <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> > *Cc:* Susan Oleskiw <se.oles@telus.net> > *Subject:* [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: New Content - Black Genealogy > Notes, Cos. Donegal, Fermanagh, Londonderry & Tyrone > > Dear Len, Jim and Dave > > I too appreciate all the work done to make records available to the > diaspora. > > I carefully read every new addition looking for my Black and other > surnames from the barony of Dungannon, County Tyrone. Alas, I haven't > yet found the records for a Black family with a possible father of > Robert or James (using Scots-Irish naming custom) whose children were > born from 1802 - 1822. Some children must have remained in Co. Tyrone > because only 4, with their families, travelled to Canada. > > Has anyone ever transcribed the list of passengers for the Nelson > Village which left Belfast May 19, 1847 and arrived at Quebec June 26, > 1847? > > I now have two possible clues that they may have come on that ship. > What company owned that particular ship? > > Your work is a blessing to many. Thank you. > > Susan Black Oleskiw > > > > On 2021-07-29 2:21 a.m., Dave Mitchell via CoTyroneList wrote: >> >> Dear Listers – and especially Len and Jim >> >> Thank you so much for posting these family notes. >> >> What Len does too, is not just to transcribe the marriage entry – he >> also does this in a way that _records also the officiating clergyman_. >> >> In 1848, Thomas Black and Hanna Gilmore were married in Belfast, in >> the Linenhall Street Church (Reformed Presbyterian), by the Rev. >> Robert Knox …. >> >> * I could find, from _www.irishgenealogy.ie >> <http://www.irishgenealogy.ie>_ the actual marriage register >> entry – in Rev. Robert Knox’s own handwriting >> >> * This on a page of several marriages, all by him, and where he >> certified the whole page too – so lots of examples of his signature >> >> * By looking at the .pdf pages before and after /(just change the >> last digit in the page number),/ I could get examples from >> several pages >> >> >> Rev. Robert Knox was a County Tyrone man, the 3rd son of Hugh Knox at >> Urney and grandson of Gustavus Knox of Little Drumenny, both in co. >> Tyrone. >> >> He was also a great-uncle to my own grandfather. >> >> So, thanks, Len – /you’ve done it again!/ You’ve given me a >> bookful of his own original handwriting, from over 170 years ago …. >> >> Your kindness and thoroughness makes for marvellous help and exciting >> discoveries for others. >> >> Thank you, thank you and thank you again! All 100 000 of them thank >> you’s …. >> >> >> Dave Mitchell >> >> Cape Town >> >> South Africa >> >> >> ================================= >> Send a Message to the List -cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com <mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> >> List Archive -https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com <https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com> >> Join the list by sending an email to -cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com <mailto:cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com> >> To receive the Digest version, send an email to -cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com <mailto:cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com> >> Unsubscribe by sending an email to -cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com <mailto:cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com> >> ================================= > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Virus-free. www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Len Swindley

Sat, Sep 25, 2021 12:23 PM

Best of luck with your ongoing search Susan; perhaps someone on this list has had experience/ success sounding out Canadian passenger lists. Have they generally survived?

Len

From: Susan Oleskiw se.oles@telus.net
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 2:24 AM
To: Len Swindley len_swindley@hotmail.com; cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: New Content - Black Genealogy Notes, Cos. Donegal, Fermanagh, Londonderry & Tyrone

Thank you, Len

Your ongoing work is hugely appreciated.

I had continued to search myself and found this record. The passenger numbers for the Nelson Village are a little higher than the source you gave.

I also read through the booklet and found that these passengers were not assisted immigrants.

I believe that a large group from County Tyrone traveled on this ship and ended up in Simcoe County Ontario.

No proof so far, but I did find a death at sea of a 2 year old which could be of my family.

https://www.canadiana.ca/view/oocihm.9_01020/28?r=0&s=1

Regards,

Susan

On 2021-09-22 5:58 a.m., Len Swindley wrote:
Hello Susan,

Thanks for your kind comments.

I venture to say that the passenger list of the Nelson Village has not been transcribed; certainly not on the Ships List website www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.shtml http://www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.shtml

Ship Arrivals Quebec, Canada June 1847 part 2http://www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.shtml
Mr. Wm. Henry, of this city, furnished the Exchange, yesterday, with the following extracts of letters received by the Eastern Mail:--"Chatham, 3 rd June, 1847 "Captain Thain, of the ship Loostauk, 636 tons, from Liverpool to Quebec, out 7 weeks, had, when she left Liverpool, 349 passengers, out of which 117 have died, and of the ship's crew only five are able to work.
www.theshipslist.com http://www.theshipslist.com

Arr. Quebec June 27 1847; Master: McBernie, 264 passengers; consigned to W. Henry. Is there a record repository in Canada dedicated to maritime immigration - perhaps they could assist?
Regards,
Len

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Sent: Friday, 30 July 2021 3:00 AM
To: cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: New Content - Black Genealogy Notes, Cos. Donegal, Fermanagh, Londonderry & Tyrone

Dear Len, Jim and Dave

I too appreciate all the work done to make records available to the diaspora.

I carefully read every new addition looking for my Black and other surnames from the barony of Dungannon, County Tyrone. Alas, I haven't yet found the records for a Black family with a possible father of Robert or James (using Scots-Irish naming custom) whose children were born from 1802 - 1822. Some children must have remained in Co. Tyrone because only 4, with their families, travelled to Canada.

Has anyone ever transcribed the list of passengers for the Nelson Village which left Belfast May 19, 1847 and arrived at Quebec June 26, 1847?

I now have two possible clues that they may have come on that ship. What company owned that particular ship?

Your work is a blessing to many. Thank you.

Susan Black Oleskiw

On 2021-07-29 2:21 a.m., Dave Mitchell via CoTyroneList wrote:

Dear Listers – and especially Len and Jim

Thank you so much for posting these family notes.

What Len does too, is not just to transcribe the marriage entry – he also does this in a way that records also the officiating clergyman.

In 1848, Thomas Black and Hanna Gilmore were married in Belfast, in the Linenhall Street Church (Reformed Presbyterian), by the Rev. Robert Knox ….

I could find, from www.irishgenealogy.ie http://www.irishgenealogy.ie the actual marriage register entry – in Rev. Robert Knox’s own handwriting
This on a page of several marriages, all by him, and where he certified the whole page too – so lots of examples of his signature
By looking at the .pdf pages before and after (just change the last digit in the page number), I could get examples from several pages

Rev. Robert Knox was a County Tyrone man, the 3rd son of Hugh Knox at Urney and grandson of Gustavus Knox of Little Drumenny, both in co. Tyrone.

He was also a great-uncle to my own grandfather.

So, thanks, Len – you’ve done it again! You’ve given me a bookful of his own original handwriting, from over 170 years ago ….

Your kindness and thoroughness makes for marvellous help and exciting discoveries for others.

Thank you, thank you and thank you again! All 100 000 of them thank you’s ….

Dave Mitchell

Cape Town

South Africa

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Best of luck with your ongoing search Susan; perhaps someone on this list has had experience/ success sounding out Canadian passenger lists. Have they generally survived? Len ________________________________ From: Susan Oleskiw <se.oles@telus.net> Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 2:24 AM To: Len Swindley <len_swindley@hotmail.com>; cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: New Content - Black Genealogy Notes, Cos. Donegal, Fermanagh, Londonderry & Tyrone Thank you, Len Your ongoing work is hugely appreciated. I had continued to search myself and found this record. The passenger numbers for the Nelson Village are a little higher than the source you gave. I also read through the booklet and found that these passengers were not assisted immigrants. I believe that a large group from County Tyrone traveled on this ship and ended up in Simcoe County Ontario. No proof so far, but I did find a death at sea of a 2 year old which could be of my family. https://www.canadiana.ca/view/oocihm.9_01020/28?r=0&s=1 Regards, Susan On 2021-09-22 5:58 a.m., Len Swindley wrote: Hello Susan, Thanks for your kind comments. I venture to say that the passenger list of the Nelson Village has not been transcribed; certainly not on the Ships List website www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.shtml<http://www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.shtml> Ship Arrivals Quebec, Canada June 1847 part 2<http://www.theshipslist.com/1847/shipsjune1847b.shtml> Mr. Wm. Henry, of this city, furnished the Exchange, yesterday, with the following extracts of letters received by the Eastern Mail:--"Chatham, 3 rd June, 1847 "Captain Thain, of the ship Loostauk, 636 tons, from Liverpool to Quebec, out 7 weeks, had, when she left Liverpool, 349 passengers, out of which 117 have died, and of the ship's crew only five are able to work. www.theshipslist.com<http://www.theshipslist.com> Arr. Quebec June 27 1847; Master: McBernie, 264 passengers; consigned to W. Henry. Is there a record repository in Canada dedicated to maritime immigration - perhaps they could assist? Regards, Len ________________________________ From: Susan Oleskiw via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com><mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Sent: Friday, 30 July 2021 3:00 AM To: cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com><mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Cc: Susan Oleskiw <se.oles@telus.net><mailto:se.oles@telus.net> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: New Content - Black Genealogy Notes, Cos. Donegal, Fermanagh, Londonderry & Tyrone Dear Len, Jim and Dave I too appreciate all the work done to make records available to the diaspora. I carefully read every new addition looking for my Black and other surnames from the barony of Dungannon, County Tyrone. Alas, I haven't yet found the records for a Black family with a possible father of Robert or James (using Scots-Irish naming custom) whose children were born from 1802 - 1822. Some children must have remained in Co. Tyrone because only 4, with their families, travelled to Canada. Has anyone ever transcribed the list of passengers for the Nelson Village which left Belfast May 19, 1847 and arrived at Quebec June 26, 1847? I now have two possible clues that they may have come on that ship. What company owned that particular ship? Your work is a blessing to many. Thank you. Susan Black Oleskiw On 2021-07-29 2:21 a.m., Dave Mitchell via CoTyroneList wrote: Dear Listers – and especially Len and Jim Thank you so much for posting these family notes. What Len does too, is not just to transcribe the marriage entry – he also does this in a way that records also the officiating clergyman. In 1848, Thomas Black and Hanna Gilmore were married in Belfast, in the Linenhall Street Church (Reformed Presbyterian), by the Rev. Robert Knox …. * I could find, from www.irishgenealogy.ie<http://www.irishgenealogy.ie> the actual marriage register entry – in Rev. Robert Knox’s own handwriting * This on a page of several marriages, all by him, and where he certified the whole page too – so lots of examples of his signature * By looking at the .pdf pages before and after (just change the last digit in the page number), I could get examples from several pages Rev. Robert Knox was a County Tyrone man, the 3rd son of Hugh Knox at Urney and grandson of Gustavus Knox of Little Drumenny, both in co. Tyrone. He was also a great-uncle to my own grandfather. So, thanks, Len – you’ve done it again! You’ve given me a bookful of his own original handwriting, from over 170 years ago …. Your kindness and thoroughness makes for marvellous help and exciting discoveries for others. Thank you, thank you and thank you again! All 100 000 of them thank you’s …. 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