Jack Ward Now in Knoxville, TN, USA On Sat, Sep 26, 2020, 3:55 PM stephen abramson <desmo900cr@gmail.com> wrote: > Silly season all season long!!!!!! > > On Sep 26, 2020, at 3:31 PM, sean t <sftompkins@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'd buy that scenario! This season, I'd buy anything. > Ok, I'm stealing your picks................. > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "stephen abramson" <desmo900cr@gmail.com> > To: "Ducati Owners Group" <ducati@list.ducati.net> > Sent: 9/26/2020 10:56:57 AM > Subject: Re: [Ducati] MotoGP Barcelona (may contain spoilers) > > Thanks, Kevin. Based on your self proclaimed miserably bad results, I will > set my pics as follows: > > All three of your contenders taken out by this terrible tear-off debacle, > Fabio’s engine ingesting one, Rossi gagging on one that gets inside his > helmet(still waiting for Lan to develop the edible ones), and Morbi losing > the front on one and crashing without injury…….. > > Lecuona 1st > Marquez 2nd > Dovi 3rd > > Fastest lap by Bradl > > Bring on my points!! > > STeve > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: desmo900cr@gmail.com > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: jaxn51@gmail.com >

Glad I got up for this one, an odd but exciting race. So, as she usually does, Vicki got it right with Joan Mir looking like the next big thing. A little better qualifying, and he's on the top step. Very sad to see the Ducati incident in the first lap and Rossi's crash later in the race. I was also hoping T Nakagami could move up a few more places. On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 15:58, Vicki Smith <Vicki@ducati.net> wrote: > A racing podcast I listen to suggested the racing has been so good maybe > they should give Marquez another million to stay home till next year... > > Also am I the only one that thinks Joan Mir is the next big thing? > > Vicki > > > On Sep 26, 2020, at 3:55 PM, stephen abramson <desmo900cr@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Silly season all season long!!!!!! > > On Sep 26, 2020, at 3:31 PM, sean t <sftompkins@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'd buy that scenario! This season, I'd buy anything. > Ok, I'm stealing your picks................. > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "stephen abramson" <desmo900cr@gmail.com> > To: "Ducati Owners Group" <ducati@list.ducati.net> > Sent: 9/26/2020 10:56:57 AM > Subject: Re: [Ducati] MotoGP Barcelona (may contain spoilers) > > Thanks, Kevin. Based on your self proclaimed miserably bad results, I will > set my pics as follows: > > All three of your contenders taken out by this terrible tear-off debacle, > Fabio’s engine ingesting one, Rossi gagging on one that gets inside his > helmet(still waiting for Lan to develop the edible ones), and Morbi losing > the front on one and crashing without injury…….. > > Lecuona 1st > Marquez 2nd > Dovi 3rd > > Fastest lap by Bradl > > Bring on my points!! > > STeve > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: desmo900cr@gmail.com > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: veloce916@gmail.com > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >

Wild race. This season has become wildly effected by tires designed and built for a season and especially, race dates that all changed. The tires this weekend were built for a different track date and the guys still up on two at the end were all riding like they were on eggs. The challenges of this championship are ongoing and endless. That Marquez is openly criticizing the title front runners for being unable to lock down the championship is kind of funny to me. He was one of the first to flunk the 2020 challenge. (Sorry Lan, I know you feel differently). This season will go to the rider that adapts their riding style, each weekend, to the tires. That stays on the bike and avoids taking a bad bounce and falling from the Gods to watch the race from the sidelines with the rest of us mere humans. Looking at the points now it’s clear that the championship is seriously up for grabs. Could this be the year Suzuki wins the championship? Right now I wouldn’t bet against it given the way 2020 just keeps on dishing out the unimaginable :-) Vicki > On Sep 27, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > >  > Glad I got up for this one, an odd but exciting race. > So, as she usually does, Vicki got it right with Joan Mir looking like the next big thing. A little better qualifying, and he's on the top step. > Very sad to see the Ducati incident in the first lap and Rossi's crash later in the race. I was also hoping T Nakagami could move up a few more places. > >> On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 15:58, Vicki Smith <Vicki@ducati.net> wrote: >> A racing podcast I listen to suggested the racing has been so good maybe they should give Marquez another million to stay home till next year... >> >> Also am I the only one that thinks Joan Mir is the next big thing? >> >> Vicki >> >> >>>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 3:55 PM, stephen abramson <desmo900cr@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>> Silly season all season long!!!!!! >>> >>>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 3:31 PM, sean t <sftompkins@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'd buy that scenario! This season, I'd buy anything. >>>> Ok, I'm stealing your picks................. >>>> >>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>> From: "stephen abramson" <desmo900cr@gmail.com> >>>> To: "Ducati Owners Group" <ducati@list.ducati.net> >>>> Sent: 9/26/2020 10:56:57 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Ducati] MotoGP Barcelona (may contain spoilers) >>>> >>>>> Thanks, Kevin. Based on your self proclaimed miserably bad results, I will set my pics as follows: >>>>> >>>>> All three of your contenders taken out by this terrible tear-off debacle, Fabio’s engine ingesting one, Rossi gagging on one that gets inside his helmet(still waiting for Lan to develop the edible ones), and Morbi losing the front on one and crashing without injury…….. >>>>> >>>>> Lecuona 1st >>>>> Marquez 2nd >>>>> Dovi 3rd >>>>> >>>>> Fastest lap by Bradl >>>>> >>>>> Bring on my points!! >>>>> >>>>> STeve >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>>> and >>>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>>> _____________________ >>>> Ducati mailing list >>>> Ducati@list.ducati.net >>>> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >>>> Mailto: desmo900cr@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>> and >>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>> _____________________ >>> Ducati mailing list >>> Ducati@list.ducati.net >>> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >>> Mailto: veloce916@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: veloce916@gmail.com

Vicki, you’ve said a number of times how much the tires matter nowadays, and today's race couldn't have illustrated it more. This was the biggest coulda/shoulda/wouda race in a long time-I said to Pags early this morning that I was betting on Rossi’s lifetime of tire management skills to bring home the win today, and it certainly was a possibility until his unfortunate fall. I think 2 more laps and Mir would have had his maiden win-Fabio won fair and square, but I’m sure he was very happy the checkered flag came out when it did. As you speculated, Mir could be a surprise contender for top spot at the end of the season. He’s been so darn consistent-and we know that consistent is what builds championships…… STeve > On Sep 27, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Vicki Smith <Vicki@Ducati.net> wrote: > > Wild race. This season has become wildly effected by tires designed and built for a season and especially, race dates that all changed. The tires this weekend were built for a different track date and the guys still up on two at the end were all riding like they were on eggs. The challenges of this championship are ongoing and endless. That Marquez is openly criticizing the title front runners for being unable to lock down the championship is kind of funny to me. He was one of the first to flunk the 2020 challenge. (Sorry Lan, I know you feel differently). > This season will go to the rider that adapts their riding style, each weekend, to the tires. That stays on the bike and avoids taking a bad bounce and falling from the Gods to watch the race from the sidelines with the rest of us mere humans. Looking at the points now it’s clear that the championship is seriously up for grabs. Could this be the year Suzuki wins the championship? Right now I wouldn’t bet against it given the way 2020 just keeps on dishing out the unimaginable :-) > Vicki > >> On Sep 27, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>  >> Glad I got up for this one, an odd but exciting race. >> So, as she usually does, Vicki got it right with Joan Mir looking like the next big thing. A little better qualifying, and he's on the top step. >> Very sad to see the Ducati incident in the first lap and Rossi's crash later in the race. I was also hoping T Nakagami could move up a few more places. >> >> On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 15:58, Vicki Smith <Vicki@ducati.net <mailto:Vicki@ducati.net>> wrote: >> A racing podcast I listen to suggested the racing has been so good maybe they should give Marquez another million to stay home till next year... >> >> Also am I the only one that thinks Joan Mir is the next big thing? >> >> Vicki >> >> >>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 3:55 PM, stephen abramson <desmo900cr@gmail.com <mailto:desmo900cr@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Silly season all season long!!!!!! >>> >>>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 3:31 PM, sean t <sftompkins@gmail.com <mailto:sftompkins@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'd buy that scenario! This season, I'd buy anything. >>>> Ok, I'm stealing your picks................. >>>> >>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>> From: "stephen abramson" <desmo900cr@gmail.com <mailto:desmo900cr@gmail.com>> >>>> To: "Ducati Owners Group" <ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> >>>> Sent: 9/26/2020 10:56:57 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Ducati] MotoGP Barcelona (may contain spoilers) >>>> >>>>> Thanks, Kevin. Based on your self proclaimed miserably bad results, I will set my pics as follows: >>>>> >>>>> All three of your contenders taken out by this terrible tear-off debacle, Fabio’s engine ingesting one, Rossi gagging on one that gets inside his helmet(still waiting for Lan to develop the edible ones), and Morbi losing the front on one and crashing without injury…….. >>>>> >>>>> Lecuona 1st >>>>> Marquez 2nd >>>>> Dovi 3rd >>>>> >>>>> Fastest lap by Bradl >>>>> >>>>> Bring on my points!! >>>>> >>>>> STeve >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>>> http://www.ductalk.com/ <http://www.ductalk.com/> >>>> and >>>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet <https://www.facebook.com/ducnet> >>>> _____________________ >>>> Ducati mailing list >>>> Ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> >>>> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net <http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net> >>>> Mailto: desmo900cr@gmail.com <mailto:desmo900cr@gmail.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>> http://www.ductalk.com/ <http://www.ductalk.com/> >>> and >>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet <https://www.facebook.com/ducnet> >>> _____________________ >>> Ducati mailing list >>> Ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> >>> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net <http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net> >>> Mailto: veloce916@gmail.com <mailto:veloce916@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ <http://www.ductalk.com/> >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet <https://www.facebook.com/ducnet> >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net <http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net> >> Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com <mailto:kkachadourian@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: veloce916@gmail.com <mailto:veloce916@gmail.com> > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ <http://www.ductalk.com/> > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet <https://www.facebook.com/ducnet> > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net <http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net> > Mailto: desmo900cr@gmail.com <mailto:desmo900cr@gmail.com>

Agree on all counts, but Fabio threw this away early, and now that it's back in his sights, I think he's going to hold on to it this time. He certainly reacted that way after the race. And seriously - WTF with Vinales? I finally believed in him, picked him to win, and he screwed the start up so bad, I thought I was watching an amateur launch. That dude can't put it together on race day (way more often than not). Pags On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 11:47 AM stephen abramson <desmo900cr@gmail.com> wrote: > Vicki, you’ve said a number of times how much the tires matter nowadays, > and today's race couldn't have illustrated it more. This was the biggest > coulda/shoulda/wouda race in a long time-I said to Pags early this morning > that I was betting on Rossi’s lifetime of tire management skills to bring > home the win today, and it certainly was a possibility until his > unfortunate fall. I think 2 more laps and Mir would have had his maiden > win-Fabio won fair and square, but I’m sure he was very happy the checkered > flag came out when it did. As you speculated, Mir could be a surprise > contender for top spot at the end of the season. He’s been so darn > consistent-and we know that consistent is what builds championships…… > > STeve > >

Viñales needs a new career. He looks like the great white hopeless to me. I don't understand why he still has a seat. On Sun, Sep 27, 2020, 12:26 PM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > Agree on all counts, but Fabio threw this away early, and now that it's > back in his sights, I think he's going to hold on to it this time. He > certainly reacted that way after the race. > > And seriously - WTF with Vinales? I finally believed in him, picked him > to win, and he screwed the start up so bad, I thought I was watching an > amateur launch. That dude can't put it together on race day (way more > often than not). > > Pags > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 11:47 AM stephen abramson <desmo900cr@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Vicki, you’ve said a number of times how much the tires matter nowadays, >> and today's race couldn't have illustrated it more. This was the biggest >> coulda/shoulda/wouda race in a long time-I said to Pags early this morning >> that I was betting on Rossi’s lifetime of tire management skills to bring >> home the win today, and it certainly was a possibility until his >> unfortunate fall. I think 2 more laps and Mir would have had his maiden >> win-Fabio won fair and square, but I’m sure he was very happy the checkered >> flag came out when it did. As you speculated, Mir could be a surprise >> contender for top spot at the end of the season. He’s been so darn >> consistent-and we know that consistent is what builds championships…… >> >> STeve >> >> > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: jaxn51@gmail.com >

Yeah, tired of being disappointed by yo-yo MV. When's he going back to #25? Dovi, Dovi, oh Dovi. Glad for Mir and Rins and Suzuki. Its all good for racing. Can't wait for MM93 to return now that virtually the entire rest of the field know that they can win too. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Tony Pags" <ajpags@gmail.com> To: "Ducati Owners Group" <ducati@list.ducati.net> Sent: 9/27/2020 9:25:03 AM Subject: Re: [Ducati] MotoGP Barcelona (may contain spoilers) >Agree on all counts, but Fabio threw this away early, and now that it's >back in his sights, I think he's going to hold on to it this time. He >certainly reacted that way after the race. > >And seriously - WTF with Vinales? I finally believed in him, picked >him to win, and he screwed the start up so bad, I thought I was >watching an amateur launch. That dude can't put it together on race >day (way more often than not). > >Pags >>

You all know that when MM93 comes back, he'll spank them all, and show them what real racing looks like, on the way to his next string of victories. I had to try and get the jump on Lan with this one. Actually, I'm hoping that MM93 comes back to find a field that gives him more competition, and that he, in return, sdescalates the racing up to a new level. And, I think the technology, particularly tires, has the sport at too much of a razor's edge. Can we drop back to tires that don't work quite so well under expected conditions, but work pretty well under many conditions? Jeez, now we have riders washing out because a cloud has dropped the track temperature 10 degrees for 2 turns. No, wait. I know what they'll do, maybe doing already; have engine mapping that can account for these factors on the fly. Pretty soon, we won't need riders anymore - wait, how did I get here? I'd be up for one race in the season that is on 2 stroke 500s, with no computers or TC or ABS or Launch Control, just brakes and throttles. On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 at 16:16, sean t <sftompkins@gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah, tired of being disappointed by yo-yo MV. When's he going back to > #25? > Dovi, Dovi, oh Dovi. Glad for Mir and Rins and Suzuki. > Its all good for racing. Can't wait for MM93 to return now that virtually > the entire rest of the field know that they can win too. > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Tony Pags" <ajpags@gmail.com> > To: "Ducati Owners Group" <ducati@list.ducati.net> > Sent: 9/27/2020 9:25:03 AM > Subject: Re: [Ducati] MotoGP Barcelona (may contain spoilers) > > Agree on all counts, but Fabio threw this away early, and now that it's > back in his sights, I think he's going to hold on to it this time. He > certainly reacted that way after the race. > > And seriously - WTF with Vinales? I finally believed in him, picked him > to win, and he screwed the start up so bad, I thought I was watching an > amateur launch. That dude can't put it together on race day (way more > often than not). > > Pags > >> >> > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >

Dovi must have the record for being taken out through no fault of his own. I wonder f they keep those records. - Gene "I Know a Few Roads" Patriot Guard Rider AMA Charter Life Member #598925 Charter Member #166 of the Victory Motorcycle Club DUCATI.net Member USDESMO Member #1263 EX-MSF Instructor EX-President Mid Atlantic Ducati Owners Club Victory's - 01' V92SC, 04' Kingpin, 16' XC Tour Ducati's - 02' M900, 13' Diavel HD - 09' XR1200 ________________________________ From: Ducati <ducati-bounces@list.ducati.net> on behalf of sean t <sftompkins@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 7:15 PM To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> Subject: Re: [Ducati] MotoGP Barcelona (may contain spoilers) Yeah, tired of being disappointed by yo-yo MV. When's he going back to #25? Dovi, Dovi, oh Dovi. Glad for Mir and Rins and Suzuki. Its all good for racing. Can't wait for MM93 to return now that virtually the entire rest of the field know that they can win too. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Tony Pags" <ajpags@gmail.com<mailto:ajpags@gmail.com>> To: "Ducati Owners Group" <ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> Sent: 9/27/2020 9:25:03 AM Subject: Re: [Ducati] MotoGP Barcelona (may contain spoilers) Agree on all counts, but Fabio threw this away early, and now that it's back in his sights, I think he's going to hold on to it this time. He certainly reacted that way after the race. And seriously - WTF with Vinales? I finally believed in him, picked him to win, and he screwed the start up so bad, I thought I was watching an amateur launch. That dude can't put it together on race day (way more often than not). Pags

HaHaHa! You know it, KK! Commentator jinxed VR. He was already anticipating it,(lol who isn’t really?) that bastard. IIRC when Oliveira crashed, the commentary immediately screamed and stopped himself halfway.. Rossi has craaaaa.!! Looked like VR tried to catch quartararro for the win. Didn’t wanna settle for 2nd. I mean who does, unless the rider knows for sure he’s got nothing left... His riding style changed a bit going in/out of the corner trying to save his tires for the last few laps. Man, I was really looking forward to that battle. Mapping 2? Who the hell the knows what that could be. On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 7:56 PM Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > You all know that when MM93 comes back, he'll spank them all, and show > them what real racing looks like, on the way to his next string of > victories. > I had to try and get the jump on Lan with this one. Actually, I'm hoping > that MM93 comes back to find a field that gives him more competition, and > that he, in return, sdescalates the racing up to a new level. > > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #