Aragon II MotoGP, May contain spoilers

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Vicki Smith
Fri, Oct 23, 2020 9:26 PM

This is the subject line for this weekends race. So far it looks like Honda’s love this track.  Speaking of which, he’s  not quite up to speed yet this weekend but suddenly I’m afraid to bet against Alex Marquez. Whatever has resulted from MM being out this season one thing seems clear, it’s given Alex the time and space and full attention from the team to get his talent caught up to the big bike.
Vicki

This is the subject line for this weekends race. So far it looks like Honda’s love this track. Speaking of which, he’s not quite up to speed yet this weekend but suddenly I’m afraid to bet against Alex Marquez. Whatever has resulted from MM being out this season one thing seems clear, it’s given Alex the time and space and full attention from the team to get his talent caught up to the big bike. Vicki
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Tony Pagliaroli
Fri, Oct 23, 2020 9:34 PM

Seriously sucks he won’t be factory next year!!!

On Oct 23, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Vicki Smith vicki@ducati.net wrote:

This is the subject line for this weekends race. So far it looks like Honda’s love this track.  Speaking of which, he’s  not quite up to speed yet this weekend but suddenly I’m afraid to bet against Alex Marquez. Whatever has resulted from MM being out this season one thing seems clear, it’s given Alex the time and space and full attention from the team to get his talent caught up to the big bike.
Vicki

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Seriously sucks he won’t be factory next year!!! > On Oct 23, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: > > This is the subject line for this weekends race. So far it looks like Honda’s love this track. Speaking of which, he’s not quite up to speed yet this weekend but suddenly I’m afraid to bet against Alex Marquez. Whatever has resulted from MM being out this season one thing seems clear, it’s given Alex the time and space and full attention from the team to get his talent caught up to the big bike. > Vicki > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: ajpags@gmail.com
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Christian Els
Fri, Oct 23, 2020 9:46 PM

Certainly isn't helping Dovi's charge to the Championship being here
again...

Or is he just that confident with the GP20 that he's waiting to the last
possible moment to throw down a couple monumental performances, take the
trophy and seal his legacy as he walks away from the sport?

Well, a boy can hope, no?

Christian

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 4:27 PM Vicki Smith Vicki@ducati.net wrote:

This is the subject line for this weekends race. So far it looks like
Honda’s love this track.  Speaking of which, he’s  not quite up to speed
yet this weekend but suddenly I’m afraid to bet against Alex Marquez.
Whatever has resulted from MM being out this season one thing seems clear,
it’s given Alex the time and space and full attention from the team to get
his talent caught up to the big bike.
Vicki

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Certainly isn't helping Dovi's charge to the Championship being here again... Or is he just that confident with the GP20 that he's waiting to the last possible moment to throw down a couple monumental performances, take the trophy and seal his legacy as he walks away from the sport? Well, a boy can hope, no? Christian On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 4:27 PM Vicki Smith <Vicki@ducati.net> wrote: > This is the subject line for this weekends race. So far it looks like > Honda’s love this track. Speaking of which, he’s not quite up to speed > yet this weekend but suddenly I’m afraid to bet against Alex Marquez. > Whatever has resulted from MM being out this season one thing seems clear, > it’s given Alex the time and space and full attention from the team to get > his talent caught up to the big bike. > Vicki > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: tian647@gmail.com >
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Lan Max
Fri, Oct 23, 2020 10:15 PM

Young Marquez is becoming one with the Honda. He’ll wipe the floor with
pol’s mophead next year.

Honda took pol in because they think he’s a threat with the KTM. It’s not
because he’s a champ material. I really don’t see any other reasons. Seems
MM73 has a better record than pol.
I don’t even know if they’ll take in his input..
It’s Pedrosa who makes the KTM what it is now.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 5:35 PM Tony Pagliaroli ajpags@gmail.com wrote:

Seriously sucks he won’t be factory next year!!!

On Oct 23, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Vicki Smith vicki@ducati.net wrote:

This is the subject line for this weekends race. So far it looks like

Honda’s love this track.  Speaking of which, he’s  not quite up to speed
yet this weekend but suddenly I’m afraid to bet against Alex Marquez.
Whatever has resulted from MM being out this season one thing seems clear,
it’s given Alex the time and space and full attention from the team to get
his talent caught up to the big bike.

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Young Marquez is becoming one with the Honda. He’ll wipe the floor with pol’s mophead next year. Honda took pol in because they think he’s a threat with the KTM. It’s not because he’s a champ material. I really don’t see any other reasons. Seems MM73 has a better record than pol. I don’t even know if they’ll take in his input.. It’s Pedrosa who makes the KTM what it is now. On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 5:35 PM Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > Seriously sucks he won’t be factory next year!!! > > > On Oct 23, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: > > > > This is the subject line for this weekends race. So far it looks like > Honda’s love this track. Speaking of which, he’s not quite up to speed > yet this weekend but suddenly I’m afraid to bet against Alex Marquez. > Whatever has resulted from MM being out this season one thing seems clear, > it’s given Alex the time and space and full attention from the team to get > his talent caught up to the big bike. > > Vicki > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > and > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > _____________________ > > Ducati mailing list > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > Mailto: ajpags@gmail.com > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #
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Mario Baroz
Mon, Oct 26, 2020 12:47 PM

MM73 will be just fine next year on the LCR as it's gonna be a full factory bike.  It might even be better for him not being under the full factory spotlight. I know this is going way back but I remember Ben Bostrom coming alive after he was "demoted" to the L&M squad from the factory Ducati team.  And he cited that as the reason.

As to Kevin's point about MotoGP being boring with MM93's domination....well, I don't know about him but I don't think watching maybe the greatest racer of all time riding exquisitely is boring...AT ALL.

Dovi...sigh....I think he's thrown in the towel.  When Miller, Pecco, and Zarco and even Petrucci at times all have better pace than him...I think it's pretty evident.  I was hoping with MM93 gone, a fire would be lit under Dovi's butt but that doesn't appear to have happened.  He can whine about the rear tire hindering him all the wants but everybody has to deal with it.

I'm picking Mir to win the title this year.  Vinales is a mystery.  Quatararo….I said last year when everybody was jumping on his bandwagon that it was too soon, that he hasn't proven he win/podium consistently, and that has proven to the case.  Rins..I love his style, he might be an outside chance...he could reel off some consecutive victories.  I think Mir is too consistent though. He just needs to improve his qualifying and he'll be a race winner.

Mario


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Young Marquez is becoming one with the Honda. He’ll wipe the floor with pol’s mophead next year.

Honda took pol in because they think he’s a threat with the KTM. It’s not because he’s a champ material. I really don’t see any other reasons. Seems MM73 has a better record than pol.
I don’t even know if they’ll take in his input..
It’s Pedrosa who makes the KTM what it is now.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 5:35 PM Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.commailto:ajpags@gmail.com> wrote:
Seriously sucks he won’t be factory next year!!!

On Oct 23, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.netmailto:vicki@ducati.net> wrote:

This is the subject line for this weekends race. So far it looks like Honda’s love this track.  Speaking of which, he’s  not quite up to speed yet this weekend but suddenly I’m afraid to bet against Alex Marquez. Whatever has resulted from MM being out this season one thing seems clear, it’s given Alex the time and space and full attention from the team to get his talent caught up to the big bike.
Vicki

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MM73 will be just fine next year on the LCR as it's gonna be a full factory bike. It might even be better for him not being under the full factory spotlight. I know this is going way back but I remember Ben Bostrom coming alive after he was "demoted" to the L&M squad from the factory Ducati team. And he cited that as the reason. As to Kevin's point about MotoGP being boring with MM93's domination....well, I don't know about him but I don't think watching maybe the greatest racer of all time riding exquisitely is boring...AT ALL. Dovi...sigh....I think he's thrown in the towel. When Miller, Pecco, and Zarco and even Petrucci at times all have better pace than him...I think it's pretty evident. I was hoping with MM93 gone, a fire would be lit under Dovi's butt but that doesn't appear to have happened. He can whine about the rear tire hindering him all the wants but everybody has to deal with it. I'm picking Mir to win the title this year. Vinales is a mystery. Quatararo….I said last year when everybody was jumping on his bandwagon that it was too soon, that he hasn't proven he win/podium consistently, and that has proven to the case. Rins..I love his style, he might be an outside chance...he could reel off some consecutive victories. I think Mir is too consistent though. He just needs to improve his qualifying and he'll be a race winner. Mario ________________________________ From: Ducati <ducati-bounces@list.ducati.net> on behalf of Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 5:15 PM To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> Subject: Re: [Ducati] Aragon II MotoGP, May contain spoilers Young Marquez is becoming one with the Honda. He’ll wipe the floor with pol’s mophead next year. Honda took pol in because they think he’s a threat with the KTM. It’s not because he’s a champ material. I really don’t see any other reasons. Seems MM73 has a better record than pol. I don’t even know if they’ll take in his input.. It’s Pedrosa who makes the KTM what it is now. On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 5:35 PM Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com<mailto:ajpags@gmail.com>> wrote: Seriously sucks he won’t be factory next year!!! > On Oct 23, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net<mailto:vicki@ducati.net>> wrote: > > This is the subject line for this weekends race. So far it looks like Honda’s love this track. Speaking of which, he’s not quite up to speed yet this weekend but suddenly I’m afraid to bet against Alex Marquez. Whatever has resulted from MM being out this season one thing seems clear, it’s given Alex the time and space and full attention from the team to get his talent caught up to the big bike. > Vicki > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: ajpags@gmail.com<mailto:ajpags@gmail.com> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: http://www.ductalk.com/ and https://www.facebook.com/ducnet _____________________ Ducati mailing list Ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com<mailto:nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #
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Christian Els
Mon, Oct 26, 2020 1:05 PM

I agree AMaq is likely to continue to develop just fine at LCR. I am
surprised at how strong he has come on, perhaps MM was being genuine all
those years ago when he touted his brother as being the faster one. Won't
those races be interesting should it prove to be true...

Matching MM ride is glorious but it starts to become like watching a track
day rather than a race.

Dovi does appear to have unravelled his own WC dream, although he is still
the most consistent Duc rider; each of the others seems to outshine him one
at a time, then fade again.

I'm eyeballing Morbidelli for a run at the trophy, he's picked a fine time
to gain confidence and deliver results.

Christian

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 7:47 AM Mario Baroz mariobaroz@hotmail.com wrote:

MM73 will be just fine next year on the LCR as it's gonna be a full
factory bike.  It might even be better for him not being under the full
factory spotlight. I know this is going way back but I remember Ben Bostrom
coming alive after he was "demoted" to the L&M squad from the factory
Ducati team.  And he cited that as the reason.

As to Kevin's point about MotoGP being boring with MM93's
domination....well, I don't know about him but I don't think watching maybe
the greatest racer of all time riding exquisitely is boring...AT ALL.

Dovi...sigh....I think he's thrown in the towel.  When Miller, Pecco, and
Zarco and even Petrucci at times all have better pace than him...I think
it's pretty evident.  I was hoping with MM93 gone, a fire would be lit
under Dovi's butt but that doesn't appear to have happened.  He can whine
about the rear tire hindering him all the wants but everybody has to deal
with it.

I'm picking Mir to win the title this year.  Vinales is a mystery.
Quatararo….I said last year when everybody was jumping on his bandwagon
that it was too soon, that he hasn't proven he win/podium consistently, and
that has proven to the case.  Rins..I love his style, he might be an
outside chance...he could reel off some consecutive victories.  I think Mir
is too consistent though. He just needs to improve his qualifying and he'll
be a race winner.

Mario


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Young Marquez is becoming one with the Honda. He’ll wipe the floor with
pol’s mophead next year.

Honda took pol in because they think he’s a threat with the KTM. It’s not
because he’s a champ material. I really don’t see any other reasons. Seems
MM73 has a better record than pol.
I don’t even know if they’ll take in his input..
It’s Pedrosa who makes the KTM what it is now.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 5:35 PM Tony Pagliaroli ajpags@gmail.com wrote:

Seriously sucks he won’t be factory next year!!!

On Oct 23, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Vicki Smith vicki@ducati.net wrote:

This is the subject line for this weekends race. So far it looks like

Honda’s love this track.  Speaking of which, he’s  not quite up to speed
yet this weekend but suddenly I’m afraid to bet against Alex Marquez.
Whatever has resulted from MM being out this season one thing seems clear,
it’s given Alex the time and space and full attention from the team to get
his talent caught up to the big bike.

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I agree AMaq is likely to continue to develop just fine at LCR. I am surprised at how strong he has come on, perhaps MM was being genuine all those years ago when he touted his brother as being the faster one. Won't those races be interesting should it prove to be true... Matching MM ride is glorious but it starts to become like watching a track day rather than a race. Dovi does appear to have unravelled his own WC dream, although he is still the most consistent Duc rider; each of the others seems to outshine him one at a time, then fade again. I'm eyeballing Morbidelli for a run at the trophy, he's picked a fine time to gain confidence and deliver results. Christian On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 7:47 AM Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com> wrote: > MM73 will be just fine next year on the LCR as it's gonna be a full > factory bike. It might even be better for him not being under the full > factory spotlight. I know this is going way back but I remember Ben Bostrom > coming alive after he was "demoted" to the L&M squad from the factory > Ducati team. And he cited that as the reason. > > As to Kevin's point about MotoGP being boring with MM93's > domination....well, I don't know about him but I don't think watching maybe > the greatest racer of all time riding exquisitely is boring...AT ALL. > > Dovi...sigh....I think he's thrown in the towel. When Miller, Pecco, and > Zarco and even Petrucci at times all have better pace than him...I think > it's pretty evident. I was hoping with MM93 gone, a fire would be lit > under Dovi's butt but that doesn't appear to have happened. He can whine > about the rear tire hindering him all the wants but everybody has to deal > with it. > > I'm picking Mir to win the title this year. Vinales is a mystery. > Quatararo….I said last year when everybody was jumping on his bandwagon > that it was too soon, that he hasn't proven he win/podium consistently, and > that has proven to the case. Rins..I love his style, he might be an > outside chance...he could reel off some consecutive victories. I think Mir > is too consistent though. He just needs to improve his qualifying and he'll > be a race winner. > > Mario > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ducati <ducati-bounces@list.ducati.net> on behalf of Lan Max < > nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2020 5:15 PM > *To:* Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Ducati] Aragon II MotoGP, May contain spoilers > > Young Marquez is becoming one with the Honda. He’ll wipe the floor with > pol’s mophead next year. > > Honda took pol in because they think he’s a threat with the KTM. It’s not > because he’s a champ material. I really don’t see any other reasons. Seems > MM73 has a better record than pol. > I don’t even know if they’ll take in his input.. > It’s Pedrosa who makes the KTM what it is now. > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 5:35 PM Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > Seriously sucks he won’t be factory next year!!! > > > On Oct 23, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: > > > > This is the subject line for this weekends race. So far it looks like > Honda’s love this track. Speaking of which, he’s not quite up to speed > yet this weekend but suddenly I’m afraid to bet against Alex Marquez. > Whatever has resulted from MM being out this season one thing seems clear, > it’s given Alex the time and space and full attention from the team to get > his talent caught up to the big bike. > > Vicki > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > and > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > _____________________ > > Ducati mailing list > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > Mailto: ajpags@gmail.com > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > > -- > sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: tian647@gmail.com >
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Mario Baroz
Mon, Oct 26, 2020 1:44 PM

augh, how could I forget Franky? Yes, he's a real contender for sure.  I like the Suzuki better than the Yamaha though which I think gives Mir/Rins the edge.

Mario


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I agree AMaq is likely to continue to develop just fine at LCR. I am surprised at how strong he has come on, perhaps MM was being genuine all those years ago when he touted his brother as being the faster one. Won't those races be interesting should it prove to be true...

Matching MM ride is glorious but it starts to become like watching a track day rather than a race.

Dovi does appear to have unravelled his own WC dream, although he is still the most consistent Duc rider; each of the others seems to outshine him one at a time, then fade again.

I'm eyeballing Morbidelli for a run at the trophy, he's picked a fine time to gain confidence and deliver results.

Christian

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 7:47 AM Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.commailto:mariobaroz@hotmail.com> wrote:
MM73 will be just fine next year on the LCR as it's gonna be a full factory bike.  It might even be better for him not being under the full factory spotlight. I know this is going way back but I remember Ben Bostrom coming alive after he was "demoted" to the L&M squad from the factory Ducati team.  And he cited that as the reason.

As to Kevin's point about MotoGP being boring with MM93's domination....well, I don't know about him but I don't think watching maybe the greatest racer of all time riding exquisitely is boring...AT ALL.

Dovi...sigh....I think he's thrown in the towel.  When Miller, Pecco, and Zarco and even Petrucci at times all have better pace than him...I think it's pretty evident.  I was hoping with MM93 gone, a fire would be lit under Dovi's butt but that doesn't appear to have happened.  He can whine about the rear tire hindering him all the wants but everybody has to deal with it.

I'm picking Mir to win the title this year.  Vinales is a mystery.  Quatararo….I said last year when everybody was jumping on his bandwagon that it was too soon, that he hasn't proven he win/podium consistently, and that has proven to the case.  Rins..I love his style, he might be an outside chance...he could reel off some consecutive victories.  I think Mir is too consistent though. He just needs to improve his qualifying and he'll be a race winner.

Mario


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Young Marquez is becoming one with the Honda. He’ll wipe the floor with pol’s mophead next year.

Honda took pol in because they think he’s a threat with the KTM. It’s not because he’s a champ material. I really don’t see any other reasons. Seems MM73 has a better record than pol.
I don’t even know if they’ll take in his input..
It’s Pedrosa who makes the KTM what it is now.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 5:35 PM Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.commailto:ajpags@gmail.com> wrote:
Seriously sucks he won’t be factory next year!!!

On Oct 23, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.netmailto:vicki@ducati.net> wrote:

This is the subject line for this weekends race. So far it looks like Honda’s love this track.  Speaking of which, he’s  not quite up to speed yet this weekend but suddenly I’m afraid to bet against Alex Marquez. Whatever has resulted from MM being out this season one thing seems clear, it’s given Alex the time and space and full attention from the team to get his talent caught up to the big bike.
Vicki

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augh, how could I forget Franky? Yes, he's a real contender for sure. I like the Suzuki better than the Yamaha though which I think gives Mir/Rins the edge. Mario ________________________________ From: Ducati <ducati-bounces@list.ducati.net> on behalf of Christian Els <tian647@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 8:05 AM To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> Subject: Re: [Ducati] Aragon II MotoGP, May contain spoilers I agree AMaq is likely to continue to develop just fine at LCR. I am surprised at how strong he has come on, perhaps MM was being genuine all those years ago when he touted his brother as being the faster one. Won't those races be interesting should it prove to be true... Matching MM ride is glorious but it starts to become like watching a track day rather than a race. Dovi does appear to have unravelled his own WC dream, although he is still the most consistent Duc rider; each of the others seems to outshine him one at a time, then fade again. I'm eyeballing Morbidelli for a run at the trophy, he's picked a fine time to gain confidence and deliver results. Christian On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 7:47 AM Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com<mailto:mariobaroz@hotmail.com>> wrote: MM73 will be just fine next year on the LCR as it's gonna be a full factory bike. It might even be better for him not being under the full factory spotlight. I know this is going way back but I remember Ben Bostrom coming alive after he was "demoted" to the L&M squad from the factory Ducati team. And he cited that as the reason. As to Kevin's point about MotoGP being boring with MM93's domination....well, I don't know about him but I don't think watching maybe the greatest racer of all time riding exquisitely is boring...AT ALL. Dovi...sigh....I think he's thrown in the towel. When Miller, Pecco, and Zarco and even Petrucci at times all have better pace than him...I think it's pretty evident. I was hoping with MM93 gone, a fire would be lit under Dovi's butt but that doesn't appear to have happened. He can whine about the rear tire hindering him all the wants but everybody has to deal with it. I'm picking Mir to win the title this year. Vinales is a mystery. Quatararo….I said last year when everybody was jumping on his bandwagon that it was too soon, that he hasn't proven he win/podium consistently, and that has proven to the case. Rins..I love his style, he might be an outside chance...he could reel off some consecutive victories. I think Mir is too consistent though. He just needs to improve his qualifying and he'll be a race winner. Mario ________________________________ From: Ducati <ducati-bounces@list.ducati.net<mailto:ducati-bounces@list.ducati.net>> on behalf of Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com<mailto:nolanmaxxx@gmail.com>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 5:15 PM To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> Subject: Re: [Ducati] Aragon II MotoGP, May contain spoilers Young Marquez is becoming one with the Honda. He’ll wipe the floor with pol’s mophead next year. Honda took pol in because they think he’s a threat with the KTM. It’s not because he’s a champ material. I really don’t see any other reasons. Seems MM73 has a better record than pol. I don’t even know if they’ll take in his input.. It’s Pedrosa who makes the KTM what it is now. On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 5:35 PM Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com<mailto:ajpags@gmail.com>> wrote: Seriously sucks he won’t be factory next year!!! > On Oct 23, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net<mailto:vicki@ducati.net>> wrote: > > This is the subject line for this weekends race. So far it looks like Honda’s love this track. Speaking of which, he’s not quite up to speed yet this weekend but suddenly I’m afraid to bet against Alex Marquez. Whatever has resulted from MM being out this season one thing seems clear, it’s given Alex the time and space and full attention from the team to get his talent caught up to the big bike. > Vicki > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: ajpags@gmail.com<mailto:ajpags@gmail.com> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: http://www.ductalk.com/ and https://www.facebook.com/ducnet _____________________ Ducati mailing list Ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com<mailto:nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: http://www.ductalk.com/ and https://www.facebook.com/ducnet _____________________ Ducati mailing list Ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net Mailto: tian647@gmail.com<mailto:tian647@gmail.com>
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Tony Pags
Mon, Oct 26, 2020 1:51 PM

Franky's ride was dominant - completely in control.  I'd LOVE for him to
win this championship, but he's going to have to go on a tear, and he's
going to need some help in either the misfortune of others, or some
regulars stepping up their game.  He's the only 2 time winner this season
right?  Craziness.

Rather than lament the MM injury, I like to think of what could have been.
This could have been an even more epic season with him, seeing him
struggle, seeing Nakagami challenge him.  Seeing the comebacks from awful
qualifying and crashes.  I'm not of the mind he would have walked away with
it at all.

Pags

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 9:44 AM Mario Baroz mariobaroz@hotmail.com wrote:

augh, how could I forget Franky? Yes, he's a real contender for sure.  I
like the Suzuki better than the Yamaha though which I think gives Mir/Rins
the edge.

Mario

Franky's ride was dominant - completely in control. I'd LOVE for him to win this championship, but he's going to have to go on a tear, and he's going to need some help in either the misfortune of others, or some regulars stepping up their game. He's the only 2 time winner this season right? Craziness. Rather than lament the MM injury, I like to think of what could have been. This could have been an even more epic season with him, seeing him struggle, seeing Nakagami challenge him. Seeing the comebacks from awful qualifying and crashes. I'm not of the mind he would have walked away with it at all. Pags On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 9:44 AM Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com> wrote: > augh, how could I forget Franky? Yes, he's a real contender for sure. I > like the Suzuki better than the Yamaha though which I think gives Mir/Rins > the edge. > > Mario > >
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Lan Max
Mon, Oct 26, 2020 3:51 PM

I’m not too sure about this.
Did you see MM93 in his rookie year? Kicking a bunch of champions’ ass.
And.. dominated year after year since then.. even in ‘15, still 3rd..

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 9:06 AM Christian Els tian647@gmail.com wrote:

I agree AMaq is likely to continue to develop just fine at LCR. I am
surprised at how strong he has come on, perhaps MM was being genuine all
those years ago when he touted his brother as being the faster one. Won't
those races be interesting should it prove to be true...

Matching MM ride is glorious but it starts to become like watching a track
day rather than a race.

Dovi does appear to have unravelled his own WC dream, although he is still
the most consistent Duc rider; each of the others seems to outshine him one
at a time, then fade again.

I'm eyeballing Morbidelli for a run at the trophy, he's picked a fine time
to gain confidence and deliver results.

Christian

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 7:47 AM Mario Baroz mariobaroz@hotmail.com
wrote:

MM73 will be just fine next year on the LCR as it's gonna be a full
factory bike.  It might even be better for him not being under the full
factory spotlight. I know this is going way back but I remember Ben Bostrom
coming alive after he was "demoted" to the L&M squad from the factory
Ducati team.  And he cited that as the reason.

As to Kevin's point about MotoGP being boring with MM93's
domination....well, I don't know about him but I don't think watching maybe
the greatest racer of all time riding exquisitely is boring...AT ALL.

Dovi...sigh....I think he's thrown in the towel.  When Miller, Pecco, and
Zarco and even Petrucci at times all have better pace than him...I think
it's pretty evident.  I was hoping with MM93 gone, a fire would be lit
under Dovi's butt but that doesn't appear to have happened.  He can whine
about the rear tire hindering him all the wants but everybody has to deal
with it.

I'm picking Mir to win the title this year.  Vinales is a mystery.
Quatararo….I said last year when everybody was jumping on his bandwagon
that it was too soon, that he hasn't proven he win/podium consistently, and
that has proven to the case.  Rins..I love his style, he might be an
outside chance...he could reel off some consecutive victories.  I think Mir
is too consistent though. He just needs to improve his qualifying and he'll
be a race winner.

Mario


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I’m not too sure about this. Did you see MM93 in his rookie year? Kicking a bunch of champions’ ass. And.. dominated year after year since then.. even in ‘15, still 3rd.. On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 9:06 AM Christian Els <tian647@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree AMaq is likely to continue to develop just fine at LCR. I am > surprised at how strong he has come on, perhaps MM was being genuine all > those years ago when he touted his brother as being the faster one. Won't > those races be interesting should it prove to be true... > > Matching MM ride is glorious but it starts to become like watching a track > day rather than a race. > > Dovi does appear to have unravelled his own WC dream, although he is still > the most consistent Duc rider; each of the others seems to outshine him one > at a time, then fade again. > > I'm eyeballing Morbidelli for a run at the trophy, he's picked a fine time > to gain confidence and deliver results. > > > Christian > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 7:47 AM Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> MM73 will be just fine next year on the LCR as it's gonna be a full >> factory bike. It might even be better for him not being under the full >> factory spotlight. I know this is going way back but I remember Ben Bostrom >> coming alive after he was "demoted" to the L&M squad from the factory >> Ducati team. And he cited that as the reason. >> >> As to Kevin's point about MotoGP being boring with MM93's >> domination....well, I don't know about him but I don't think watching maybe >> the greatest racer of all time riding exquisitely is boring...AT ALL. >> >> Dovi...sigh....I think he's thrown in the towel. When Miller, Pecco, and >> Zarco and even Petrucci at times all have better pace than him...I think >> it's pretty evident. I was hoping with MM93 gone, a fire would be lit >> under Dovi's butt but that doesn't appear to have happened. He can whine >> about the rear tire hindering him all the wants but everybody has to deal >> with it. >> >> I'm picking Mir to win the title this year. Vinales is a mystery. >> Quatararo….I said last year when everybody was jumping on his bandwagon >> that it was too soon, that he hasn't proven he win/podium consistently, and >> that has proven to the case. Rins..I love his style, he might be an >> outside chance...he could reel off some consecutive victories. I think Mir >> is too consistent though. He just needs to improve his qualifying and he'll >> be a race winner. >> >> Mario >> >> ------------------------------ >> > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #
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Christian Els
Mon, Oct 26, 2020 4:07 PM

AMaq just seems to be a slow-burn, witness his Moto2 championship effort.
Give him enough time then stand back...

Maybe.

Or maybe MM was just looking out for his future nieces and nephews' trust
funds :)

Christian

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:52 AM Lan Max nolanmaxxx@gmail.com wrote:

I’m not too sure about this.
Did you see MM93 in his rookie year? Kicking a bunch of champions’ ass.
And.. dominated year after year since then.. even in ‘15, still 3rd..

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 9:06 AM Christian Els tian647@gmail.com wrote:

I agree AMaq is likely to continue to develop just fine at LCR. I am
surprised at how strong he has come on, perhaps MM was being genuine all
those years ago when he touted his brother as being the faster one. Won't
those races be interesting should it prove to be true...

Matching MM ride is glorious but it starts to become like watching a
track day rather than a race.

Dovi does appear to have unravelled his own WC dream, although he is
still the most consistent Duc rider; each of the others seems to
outshine him one at a time, then fade again.

I'm eyeballing Morbidelli for a run at the trophy, he's picked a fine
time to gain confidence and deliver results.

Christian

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 7:47 AM Mario Baroz mariobaroz@hotmail.com
wrote:

MM73 will be just fine next year on the LCR as it's gonna be a full
factory bike.  It might even be better for him not being under the full
factory spotlight. I know this is going way back but I remember Ben Bostrom
coming alive after he was "demoted" to the L&M squad from the factory
Ducati team.  And he cited that as the reason.

As to Kevin's point about MotoGP being boring with MM93's
domination....well, I don't know about him but I don't think watching maybe
the greatest racer of all time riding exquisitely is boring...AT ALL.

Dovi...sigh....I think he's thrown in the towel.  When Miller, Pecco,
and Zarco and even Petrucci at times all have better pace than him...I
think it's pretty evident.  I was hoping with MM93 gone, a fire would be
lit under Dovi's butt but that doesn't appear to have happened.  He can
whine about the rear tire hindering him all the wants but everybody has to
deal with it.

I'm picking Mir to win the title this year.  Vinales is a mystery.
Quatararo….I said last year when everybody was jumping on his bandwagon
that it was too soon, that he hasn't proven he win/podium consistently, and
that has proven to the case.  Rins..I love his style, he might be an
outside chance...he could reel off some consecutive victories.  I think Mir
is too consistent though. He just needs to improve his qualifying and he'll
be a race winner.

Mario


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AMaq just seems to be a slow-burn, witness his Moto2 championship effort. Give him enough time then stand back... Maybe. Or maybe MM was just looking out for his future nieces and nephews' trust funds :) Christian On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:52 AM Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > I’m not too sure about this. > Did you see MM93 in his rookie year? Kicking a bunch of champions’ ass. > And.. dominated year after year since then.. even in ‘15, still 3rd.. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 9:06 AM Christian Els <tian647@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I agree AMaq is likely to continue to develop just fine at LCR. I am >> surprised at how strong he has come on, perhaps MM was being genuine all >> those years ago when he touted his brother as being the faster one. Won't >> those races be interesting should it prove to be true... >> >> Matching MM ride is glorious but it starts to become like watching a >> track day rather than a race. >> >> Dovi does appear to have unravelled his own WC dream, although he is >> still the most consistent Duc rider; each of the others seems to >> outshine him one at a time, then fade again. >> >> I'm eyeballing Morbidelli for a run at the trophy, he's picked a fine >> time to gain confidence and deliver results. >> >> >> Christian >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 7:47 AM Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> MM73 will be just fine next year on the LCR as it's gonna be a full >>> factory bike. It might even be better for him not being under the full >>> factory spotlight. I know this is going way back but I remember Ben Bostrom >>> coming alive after he was "demoted" to the L&M squad from the factory >>> Ducati team. And he cited that as the reason. >>> >>> As to Kevin's point about MotoGP being boring with MM93's >>> domination....well, I don't know about him but I don't think watching maybe >>> the greatest racer of all time riding exquisitely is boring...AT ALL. >>> >>> Dovi...sigh....I think he's thrown in the towel. When Miller, Pecco, >>> and Zarco and even Petrucci at times all have better pace than him...I >>> think it's pretty evident. I was hoping with MM93 gone, a fire would be >>> lit under Dovi's butt but that doesn't appear to have happened. He can >>> whine about the rear tire hindering him all the wants but everybody has to >>> deal with it. >>> >>> I'm picking Mir to win the title this year. Vinales is a mystery. >>> Quatararo….I said last year when everybody was jumping on his bandwagon >>> that it was too soon, that he hasn't proven he win/podium consistently, and >>> that has proven to the case. Rins..I love his style, he might be an >>> outside chance...he could reel off some consecutive victories. I think Mir >>> is too consistent though. He just needs to improve his qualifying and he'll >>> be a race winner. >>> >>> Mario >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >> -- > sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: tian647@gmail.com >