Re: [Ducati] MotoGP Philip Island

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Colin Mackintosh
Thu, Oct 31, 2019 7:43 PM

Yes, CC35 has been with LCR for a few years and yes, he has crashed several
times this year.  However, I believe he's the only other Honda rider on a
2019 Honda to make it to the podium.  When he hasn't crashed he's
consistently finished in the top 10 and as well as providing development
info for Honda on the RC213V(which I might argue hasn't helped Cal).  Honda
seems to have developed a bike that no one aside from MM93 can win with and
I don't think that's Cal's fault!

--
Colin

Yes, CC35 has been with LCR for a few years and yes, he has crashed several times this year. However, I believe he's the only other Honda rider on a 2019 Honda to make it to the podium. When he hasn't crashed he's consistently finished in the top 10 and as well as providing development info for Honda on the RC213V(which I might argue hasn't helped Cal). Honda seems to have developed a bike that no one aside from MM93 can win with and I don't think that's Cal's fault! -- Colin
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stephen abramson
Thu, Oct 31, 2019 8:05 PM

Solid thoughts, Colin. Cal is one of those (at least for me) unfortunate “could have beens” in the sense that when he’s healthy and doesn’t fall, he’s always gonna be a contender. Sadly, he’s gotten so bashed up over the years that he hasn’t always been “healthy”. Kind of a shame, but this is the business of racing. 2020 is going to be great.

STeve

On Oct 31, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Colin Mackintosh kootenaymack@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, CC35 has been with LCR for a few years and yes, he has crashed several
times this year.  However, I believe he's the only other Honda rider on a
2019 Honda to make it to the podium.  When he hasn't crashed he's
consistently finished in the top 10 and as well as providing development
info for Honda on the RC213V(which I might argue hasn't helped Cal).  Honda
seems to have developed a bike that no one aside from MM93 can win with and
I don't think that's Cal's fault!

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Solid thoughts, Colin. Cal is one of those (at least for me) unfortunate “could have beens” in the sense that when he’s healthy and doesn’t fall, he’s always gonna be a contender. Sadly, he’s gotten so bashed up over the years that he hasn’t always been “healthy”. Kind of a shame, but this is the business of racing. 2020 is going to be great. STeve > On Oct 31, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Colin Mackintosh <kootenaymack@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes, CC35 has been with LCR for a few years and yes, he has crashed several > times this year. However, I believe he's the only other Honda rider on a > 2019 Honda to make it to the podium. When he hasn't crashed he's > consistently finished in the top 10 and as well as providing development > info for Honda on the RC213V(which I might argue hasn't helped Cal). Honda > seems to have developed a bike that no one aside from MM93 can win with and > I don't think that's Cal's fault! > > -- > Colin > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: desmo900cr@gmail.com
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Tony Pags
Thu, Oct 31, 2019 8:55 PM

Last year nearly did Cal in - it's really a great comeback story as the
dude's ankle is seriously farked.

NOBODY has been able to touch MM on a regular basis, so his performance
this past weekend in my mind was epic, and he's as threatening on any given
weekend as anyone else on the grid.  Honda should have given him the
factory contract.

Let's see what happens with Jorge in the next few weeks/months.  If they
believe his troubles now are due to his injuries, then he'll stick around.
Otherwise.....

Pags

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 4:06 PM stephen abramson desmo900cr@gmail.com
wrote:

Solid thoughts, Colin. Cal is one of those (at least for me) unfortunate
“could have beens” in the sense that when he’s healthy and doesn’t fall,
he’s always gonna be a contender. Sadly, he’s gotten so bashed up over the
years that he hasn’t always been “healthy”. Kind of a shame, but this is
the business of racing. 2020 is going to be great.

STeve

On Oct 31, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Colin Mackintosh kootenaymack@gmail.com

wrote:

Yes, CC35 has been with LCR for a few years and yes, he has crashed

several

times this year.  However, I believe he's the only other Honda rider on a
2019 Honda to make it to the podium.  When he hasn't crashed he's
consistently finished in the top 10 and as well as providing development
info for Honda on the RC213V(which I might argue hasn't helped Cal).

Honda

seems to have developed a bike that no one aside from MM93 can win with

and

I don't think that's Cal's fault!

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Last year nearly did Cal in - it's really a great comeback story as the dude's ankle is seriously farked. NOBODY has been able to touch MM on a regular basis, so his performance this past weekend in my mind was epic, and he's as threatening on any given weekend as anyone else on the grid. Honda should have given him the factory contract. Let's see what happens with Jorge in the next few weeks/months. If they believe his troubles now are due to his injuries, then he'll stick around. Otherwise..... Pags On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 4:06 PM stephen abramson <desmo900cr@gmail.com> wrote: > Solid thoughts, Colin. Cal is one of those (at least for me) unfortunate > “could have beens” in the sense that when he’s healthy and doesn’t fall, > he’s always gonna be a contender. Sadly, he’s gotten so bashed up over the > years that he hasn’t always been “healthy”. Kind of a shame, but this is > the business of racing. 2020 is going to be great. > > STeve > > > > On Oct 31, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Colin Mackintosh <kootenaymack@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Yes, CC35 has been with LCR for a few years and yes, he has crashed > several > > times this year. However, I believe he's the only other Honda rider on a > > 2019 Honda to make it to the podium. When he hasn't crashed he's > > consistently finished in the top 10 and as well as providing development > > info for Honda on the RC213V(which I might argue hasn't helped Cal). > Honda > > seems to have developed a bike that no one aside from MM93 can win with > and > > I don't think that's Cal's fault! > > > > -- > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > and > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > _____________________ > > Ducati mailing list > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > Mailto: desmo900cr@gmail.com > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: ajpags@gmail.com >
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Lan Max
Fri, Nov 1, 2019 11:59 AM

Jorge is full of crap. He knows he can’t ride the Honda so he’s just
milking it now. He’ll only divorce Honda if HRC makes the first move.  So
long as he’s getting paid and not getting what he requested, he’ll just
hang around and take the paycheck.

What will Cal do on a Factory Honda? Isn’t he riding a factory spec now?
Pedrosa was the 2nd best Honda rider ever.

So how does Marquez ride it like a psychotic bat and makes it look easy? Is
it because he rides motocross and flat track a lot? Gigantic
Balls, fearless? Obviously he’s got the skills, but there’s got to be
something else..
If he’s really got big balls, let’s see him on the Ducati, Yamaha and  then
Suzuki. Will it ever happen? Why would he switch when he can easily win on
the Honda + the amount of money they’re dumping on him.

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 4:56 PM Tony Pags ajpags@gmail.com wrote:

Last year nearly did Cal in - it's really a great comeback story as the
dude's ankle is seriously farked.

NOBODY has been able to touch MM on a regular basis, so his performance
this past weekend in my mind was epic, and he's as threatening on any given
weekend as anyone else on the grid.  Honda should have given him the
factory contract.

Let's see what happens with Jorge in the next few weeks/months.  If they
believe his troubles now are due to his injuries, then he'll stick around.
Otherwise.....

Pags

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 4:06 PM stephen abramson desmo900cr@gmail.com
wrote:

Solid thoughts, Colin. Cal is one of those (at least for me) unfortunate
“could have beens” in the sense that when he’s healthy and doesn’t fall,
he’s always gonna be a contender. Sadly, he’s gotten so bashed up over

the

years that he hasn’t always been “healthy”. Kind of a shame, but this is
the business of racing. 2020 is going to be great.

STeve

On Oct 31, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Colin Mackintosh kootenaymack@gmail.com

wrote:

Yes, CC35 has been with LCR for a few years and yes, he has crashed

several

times this year.  However, I believe he's the only other Honda rider

on a

2019 Honda to make it to the podium.  When he hasn't crashed he's
consistently finished in the top 10 and as well as providing

development

info for Honda on the RC213V(which I might argue hasn't helped Cal).

Honda

seems to have developed a bike that no one aside from MM93 can win with

and

I don't think that's Cal's fault!

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Jorge is full of crap. He knows he can’t ride the Honda so he’s just milking it now. He’ll only divorce Honda if HRC makes the first move. So long as he’s getting paid and not getting what he requested, he’ll just hang around and take the paycheck. What will Cal do on a Factory Honda? Isn’t he riding a factory spec now? Pedrosa was the 2nd best Honda rider ever. So how does Marquez ride it like a psychotic bat and makes it look easy? Is it because he rides motocross and flat track a lot? Gigantic Balls, fearless? Obviously he’s got the skills, but there’s got to be something else.. If he’s really got big balls, let’s see him on the Ducati, Yamaha and then Suzuki. Will it ever happen? Why would he switch when he can easily win on the Honda + the amount of money they’re dumping on him. On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 4:56 PM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > Last year nearly did Cal in - it's really a great comeback story as the > dude's ankle is seriously farked. > > NOBODY has been able to touch MM on a regular basis, so his performance > this past weekend in my mind was epic, and he's as threatening on any given > weekend as anyone else on the grid. Honda should have given him the > factory contract. > > Let's see what happens with Jorge in the next few weeks/months. If they > believe his troubles now are due to his injuries, then he'll stick around. > Otherwise..... > > Pags > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 4:06 PM stephen abramson <desmo900cr@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Solid thoughts, Colin. Cal is one of those (at least for me) unfortunate > > “could have beens” in the sense that when he’s healthy and doesn’t fall, > > he’s always gonna be a contender. Sadly, he’s gotten so bashed up over > the > > years that he hasn’t always been “healthy”. Kind of a shame, but this is > > the business of racing. 2020 is going to be great. > > > > STeve > > > > > > > On Oct 31, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Colin Mackintosh <kootenaymack@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > Yes, CC35 has been with LCR for a few years and yes, he has crashed > > several > > > times this year. However, I believe he's the only other Honda rider > on a > > > 2019 Honda to make it to the podium. When he hasn't crashed he's > > > consistently finished in the top 10 and as well as providing > development > > > info for Honda on the RC213V(which I might argue hasn't helped Cal). > > Honda > > > seems to have developed a bike that no one aside from MM93 can win with > > and > > > I don't think that's Cal's fault! > > > > > > -- > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > > and > > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > > _____________________ > > > Ducati mailing list > > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > > Mailto: desmo900cr@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > and > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > _____________________ > > Ducati mailing list > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > Mailto: ajpags@gmail.com > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #
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Tony Pags
Fri, Nov 1, 2019 12:44 PM

Surely you can't mean this - or perhaps you mean Pedrosa is the best 2nd
place rider Honda has ever had?

Sure Cal is on roughly equivalent equipment, but racing is mental, and
being in a factory team with those perks and attention would have been good
for him.

Pags

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 8:00 AM Lan Max nolanmaxxx@gmail.com wrote:

What will Cal do on a Factory Honda? Isn’t he riding a factory spec now?
Pedrosa was the 2nd best Honda rider ever.

Surely you can't mean this - or perhaps you mean Pedrosa is the best 2nd place rider Honda has ever had? Sure Cal is on roughly equivalent equipment, but racing is mental, and being in a factory team with those perks and attention would have been good for him. Pags On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 8:00 AM Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > What will Cal do on a Factory Honda? Isn’t he riding a factory spec now? > Pedrosa was the 2nd best Honda rider ever. > >
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James Calandro
Fri, Nov 1, 2019 2:14 PM

I am with Pags.  The best thing I ever saw was Rossi winning on Honda, then
asking for more money and being informed it was not Rossi but Honda that
won.  What does he do go and ride Yamaha and guess what Honda he won so I
guess he was right after all.  That is why I was so disappointed that he
failed to generate the hoped for results on Ducati.

Jim
Jim Calandro
il Capo
US DESMO
www.usdesmo.com
704-843-0429

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 8:45 AM Tony Pags ajpags@gmail.com wrote:

Surely you can't mean this - or perhaps you mean Pedrosa is the best 2nd
place rider Honda has ever had?

Sure Cal is on roughly equivalent equipment, but racing is mental, and
being in a factory team with those perks and attention would have been good
for him.

Pags

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 8:00 AM Lan Max nolanmaxxx@gmail.com wrote:

What will Cal do on a Factory Honda? Isn’t he riding a factory spec now?
Pedrosa was the 2nd best Honda rider ever.

I am with Pags. The best thing I ever saw was Rossi winning on Honda, then asking for more money and being informed it was not Rossi but Honda that won. What does he do go and ride Yamaha and guess what Honda he won so I guess he was right after all. That is why I was so disappointed that he failed to generate the hoped for results on Ducati. Jim Jim Calandro il Capo US DESMO www.usdesmo.com 704-843-0429 On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 8:45 AM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > Surely you can't mean this - or perhaps you mean Pedrosa is the best 2nd > place rider Honda has ever had? > > Sure Cal is on roughly equivalent equipment, but racing is mental, and > being in a factory team with those perks and attention would have been good > for him. > > Pags > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 8:00 AM Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > What will Cal do on a Factory Honda? Isn’t he riding a factory spec now? > > Pedrosa was the 2nd best Honda rider ever. > > > > > > > > >
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Lan Max
Fri, Nov 1, 2019 4:27 PM

How do you all think of El Diablo getting upgraded to the A-Spec machinery?

Rossi was pretty quick on the B-Spec machine, but check his performance
now. Shitty all year.

Flashback to 2018, how about that heartbreaking fall Rossi had in Sepang.
Win it or Bin it, or rather bin it than brutally get demoted to 2nd by MM93?

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 10:15 AM James Calandro capod2t@gmail.com wrote:

I am with Pags.  The best thing I ever saw was Rossi winning on Honda, then
asking for more money and being informed it was not Rossi but Honda that
won.  What does he do go and ride Yamaha and guess what Honda he won so I
guess he was right after all.  That is why I was so disappointed that he
failed to generate the hoped for results on Ducati.

Jim
Jim Calandro
il Capo
US DESMO
www.usdesmo.com
704-843-0429

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 8:45 AM Tony Pags ajpags@gmail.com wrote:

Surely you can't mean this - or perhaps you mean Pedrosa is the best 2nd
place rider Honda has ever had?

Sure Cal is on roughly equivalent equipment, but racing is mental, and
being in a factory team with those perks and attention would have been

good

for him.

Pags

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 8:00 AM Lan Max nolanmaxxx@gmail.com wrote:

What will Cal do on a Factory Honda? Isn’t he riding a factory spec

now?

Pedrosa was the 2nd best Honda rider ever.

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How do you all think of El Diablo getting upgraded to the A-Spec machinery? Rossi was pretty quick on the B-Spec machine, but check his performance now. Shitty all year. Flashback to 2018, how about that heartbreaking fall Rossi had in Sepang. Win it or Bin it, or rather bin it than brutally get demoted to 2nd by MM93? On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 10:15 AM James Calandro <capod2t@gmail.com> wrote: > I am with Pags. The best thing I ever saw was Rossi winning on Honda, then > asking for more money and being informed it was not Rossi but Honda that > won. What does he do go and ride Yamaha and guess what Honda he won so I > guess he was right after all. That is why I was so disappointed that he > failed to generate the hoped for results on Ducati. > > Jim > Jim Calandro > il Capo > US DESMO > www.usdesmo.com > 704-843-0429 > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 8:45 AM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Surely you can't mean this - or perhaps you mean Pedrosa is the best 2nd > > place rider Honda has ever had? > > > > Sure Cal is on roughly equivalent equipment, but racing is mental, and > > being in a factory team with those perks and attention would have been > good > > for him. > > > > Pags > > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 8:00 AM Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > What will Cal do on a Factory Honda? Isn’t he riding a factory spec > now? > > > Pedrosa was the 2nd best Honda rider ever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #