Thanks Len!! And, apologies for my slow response, working in high tech has its charms and challenges! :-) Please do feel free to use the photos from Aughertaine - while I didn't take them, they were passed to me freely as snapshots from "a friend of a friend" (whom I've only met online and spoken with a bit via Zoom upon learning her great gran and mine were sisters from Mohill (Leitrim) area!! Ideally I'll get to "Oulde Sod" in the next year or two, once the pandemic is in a bit better place and folks are more interested in getting together (now that I know I have some family there still!). Thank you for the Venables marriage info... this causes me to ask a question I've been struggling to answer, and would appreciate knowing your and others more experienced than I's viewpoint: >> WHEN do you say "I've found family"?? For example, for me to see three men with the same (relatively unusual) last name, with the same father's name, all in "relatively close" years per the marriage certificates, all proximate geographically... I'd say they are brothers, most likely! And there was a Jane Venables, from Glassmullagh whose father was Joseph and who was married in Dungannon on 31 July 1849... sister, presumably? I actually downloaded all instances of Venables from the paid site RootsIreland.ie since I paid for a month, however now have quite a detective project and so the above question has been one I've been pondering a while. Appreciate your and everyone's help on the list, ideally I can make some contributions as well... Best, Dave PS: Very interesting about the different church layout... when did the layouts change, and are there pictures of the alternative layout? ------ Original Message ------ From: "Len Swindley" <len_swindley(a)hotmail.com> To: "Dave Vanable" <dave(a)dawnwalk.com>; "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" <cotyronelist(a)list.cotyroneireland.com> Cc: "Dave Vanable" <dave(a)dawnwalk.com> Sent: 8/18/2020 7:44:28 AM Subject: RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - Aughentaine Presbyterian Church, near Fivemiletown, Clogher Parish, Co. Tyrone Marriages 1845-70 >Hello Dave, > > > >Thanks for your message. Locating the Venables marriage of 1874, I note >that they resided in Cormore townland in Clogher parish. It was also >possible to find three further Venables marriages 1845-1900; two with >marriage partners from Cormore and another in the adjoining townland of >Tullycorker. These are civil registration marriages and available >online at no cost https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/ Birth and >Death certificates are also available at the same site; it is possible >that the several I located will assist your research. Same for Fosters. > > > >Thanks for the photos of the church; may I use these to illustrate a >future file I have in mind for Aughertaine? The interior of the church >of today is quite different to that of the time your forebears >worshipped there; the pulpit would have been situated against the long >side wall with the pews arranged around it and possibly also galleries. >This was a traditional pattern for Presbyterian churches in Ireland and >Reformed churches in Europe; and there would have been no communion >table. > > > >I’m delighted you enjoyed your visit to the Oulde Sod; it’s a great >place. I am attaching cut and pastes of the marriages and you will find >it a simple procedure to download them and all others you may find >relevant to your research. Clogher is the registration district – it >will be necessary to enter this to narrow your searches. > > > >All the best, > > > >Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia > > > > > >Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for >Windows 10 > > > >From: Dave Vanable via CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List ><mailto:cotyronelist(a)list.cotyroneireland.com> >Sent: Wednesday, 12 August 2020 6:10 AM >To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List ><mailto:cotyronelist(a)list.cotyroneireland.com> >Cc: Dave Vanable <mailto:dave(a)dawnwalk.com> >Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - >Aughentaine Presbyterian Church, near Fivemiletown, Clogher Parish, Co. >Tyrone Marriages 1845-70 > > > >Len, thanks for all YOU do as well! > >This one caught my eye because my great-great-grandfather & grandmother >were married in this church in 1874... also causes me to ask a >question... I've wondered "how is it that these records are captured >and >in waiting" (photocopies, or?) for release to the wider world? > >:-) > >Remarkably a connection of someone I met in Ireland through my >genealogy >research (the County Leitrim side, Knotts), actually still lives in the >(relative) area and visited this church, and took recent pictures of my >"Foster" relatives whom my parents and grandma visited in the 1980s - >Mary Etta served tea in the kitchen, since "The Boys" were meeting in >the living room (plotting er targets, apparently). > >Attached pictures of the outside of the church exterior and inside >altar, as of last week -- kind of fun to see "where they were married" >:-) > >Dave > > > >