Re: selling a motorcycle
Not to quibble but never had much luck with cycle trader. Nice to know
someone has. FB absolutely depends on the type of bike in my experience.
Marketed 4 or 5 there. Anything under $2000ish draws all the half wits who
think they're doing you Huge favor when they offer half price CASH RIGHT
NOW! Without even seeing the thing then take it personally when I
"politely".decline. Also marketed a beautiful 1972(?) Honda CB200T (found
it for sale in pieces restored but unassembled). Damn fine bike, those.
That one attracted the 1st bike ever "go buy a scooter, you'll last longer"
crowd on FB. This is just My experience, of course.
eBayer by trade but when something matters, I'll be using Iconic
Motorbikes. My favorite person isn't there anymore but I'm giving them the
Honors with my derestricted 1990 Kawasaki ZXR250R (CA Plated). It's a
novelty but OMFG it sounds AMAZING at 20,000 revs and I swear it wants
more. Cute, too (it's the black one).
More cheap arses have been popping up on eBay but I won't say it's not
worth a try as well. Currently parting out a 2010 Multistrada S with every
imaginable upgrade give or take and I'm bemused by how cheap people are. I
know I know everyone's poor except they're Not poor. Dirt bikes and
RV's are doing really well from what I've seen.
My newest tact is to list it on eBay and market it on other sites. When
they make idiotic offers or ask silly questions I just direct them to the
ebay listing. This almost guarantees a 50+ percent newbie non-paying
bidder buys it, so plan accordingly. And they DO drive up the price so
don't eliminate their bids (if they don't respond to my polite as possible
email verifying seriousness, they have to go, eventually) until the last
minute ;-) Many newbies like to bid until the reserve is met just to see
what it was then take off.
Anyways, just sharing perhaps my last 10 (whole bikes) motorcycle sales (I
sell for others as well).
Next up is a 1955 Victoria Bergermeister (sp?) V35 owned by "my '' bodywork
guy. Holy Cow those are just about the coolest things. In case anyone
knows anyone... Hank has some serious treasures, but prefers Whizzers to
almost anything else. Goes by "whizzerhank"
But I digress...
I just really like Iconic's business practices. They own/make/do
raresportbikesforsale.com BTW. Wish I had never heard of that site (due to
an emotional purchase)!.
Ride WELL.
Gabriel
All things in moderation (Especially moderation).
Tell us about the emotional purchase!
On Nov 11, 2020, at 2:14 AM, Gleeb Gliber Galactica Gavorti uncleixel@gmail.com wrote:
I just really like Iconic's business practices. They own/make/do raresportbikesforsale.com BTW. Wish I had never heard of that site (due to an emotional purchase)!.
Ride WELL.
Gabriel
On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 1:14 AM Gleeb Gliber Galactica Gavorti wrote:
Next up is a 1955 Victoria Bergermeister (sp?) V35 owned by "my '' bodywork
guy. Holy Cow those are just about the coolest things.
TIL. That is a very interesting moto, I only wish I were at the 'collecting
motos as art' stage of life because as lovely as it is, I can't imagine
making a rider out of it.
Speaking of making a rider out of something, a couple weeks back a cage ran
me over and smashed my leg and my daily ride. I'm still waiting for the
insurance company to appraise her sad state and determine if she'll be
roadworthy again or just parts. In this interim, I've had for the
first time in my life serious thoughts of maybe stopping riding. It's
little to do with my actual injuries and all about the potential outcome of
what might have happened had the car not stopped when they felt the first
bump (my bike) and nailed the second one (me), and all the inconvenience on
me and my family with a myriad of dumb everyday tasks I can't quite
accomplish right now, e.g. getting my coffee from the kitchen to my office
downstars, or even getting to my office downstairs. I have ridden
motorcycles for 41 years at this point, at varying levels of interest,
competitiveness and commitment. A large part of my self identity is
invested in being a Motorcyclist. But in that incident I saw a ghost and
it's set off a lot of uncomfortable questions. I already stopped racing
bikes over a decade ago, have dwindled from dozens to one or no track days
a year, shifted from all-weather commuting to nice spring and fall days.
Maybe it's time. But then, who am I?
Sorry for the digression, but perhaps some of you have perspectives in this
vain you might share. I appreciate your collective wisdom.
Christian
Hope you heal quickly, do what is on you heart, do you think you can quit riding and still enjoy life? - Gene
"I Know a Few Roads"
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From: Christian Els tian647@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:49 PM
To: Ducati Owners Group ducati@list.ducati.net
Subject: [Ducati] Re: selling a motorcycle
On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 1:14 AM Gleeb Gliber Galactica Gavorti wrote:
Next up is a 1955 Victoria Bergermeister (sp?) V35 owned by "my '' bodywork guy. Holy Cow those are just about the coolest things.
TIL. That is a very interesting moto, I only wish I were at the 'collecting motos as art' stage of life because as lovely as it is, I can't imagine making a rider out of it.
Speaking of making a rider out of something, a couple weeks back a cage ran me over and smashed my leg and my daily ride. I'm still waiting for the insurance company to appraise her sad state and determine if she'll be roadworthy again or just parts. In this interim, I've had for the first time in my life serious thoughts of maybe stopping riding. It's little to do with my actual injuries and all about the potential outcome of what might have happened had the car not stopped when they felt the first bump (my bike) and nailed the second one (me), and all the inconvenience on me and my family with a myriad of dumb everyday tasks I can't quite accomplish right now, e.g. getting my coffee from the kitchen to my office downstars, or even getting to my office downstairs. I have ridden motorcycles for 41 years at this point, at varying levels of interest, competitiveness and commitment. A large part of my self identity is invested in being a Motorcyclist. But in that incident I saw a ghost and it's set off a lot of uncomfortable questions. I already stopped racing bikes over a decade ago, have dwindled from dozens to one or no track days a year, shifted from all-weather commuting to nice spring and fall days. Maybe it's time. But then, who am I?
Sorry for the digression, but perhaps some of you have perspectives in this vain you might share. I appreciate your collective wisdom.
Christian
I snipped most of this because it's painful on every level to read. Nobody
can tell you when it's time, you have to decide that for yourself. At some
point, I'll stop riding and racing myself, and my only hope is I'm still
mobile enough to head down to the garage and at least tinker. Actually,
the other hope is that will be enough.
I dread the day though, and don't envy your position. I've retired from
racing 3x now, and have been back at it (mostly minis, but I did win two
regional, albeit amateur championships in CCS this year) for a few years.
I share racing with my son now (13), so I may be able to continue a bit
through him, but that's a big maybe.
Regardless dude, that's super tough, and my heart goes out to you.
Pags
From: Christian Els tian647@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:49 PM
To: Ducati Owners Group ducati@list.ducati.net
Subject: [Ducati] Re: selling a motorcycle
Sorry for the digression, but perhaps some of you have perspectives in
this vain you might share. I appreciate your collective wisdom.
Christian
Christian,
I had the exact same situation back in 2010. I crashed and broke my collarbone which was the first serious crash I've had since my twins were born. My kids were 5yrs old at the time. After they came and visited me in the hospital, my wife later told me that our son came up to her, crying, and asked her "Is Daddy going to die?" That was tough to hear. I decided that I had to give up riding even though at that point, I had been riding for almost 30 years. Like you, my identity was tied up with motorcycling.
I don't know if you remember but I posted my decision here to this group and I got a lot of support and advice that I took seriously and thought deeply about it. If you'd like I can forward some of them to you as they were quite informative, even moving. Alan Wilzig even invited me up to his track to restore my lost confidence. I couldn't do it though as I thought I was really done.
Anyway, I put all my gear away and steeled myself for the hard part of divesting myself from all the accoutrements of a biking lifestyle. I did want to keep my project bikes as I thought I could console myself by at least working on bikes. I also kept my '96 900SS...I just couldn't part with it. And that's the way it stood for almost two years. I don't remember what reignited my willingness to take the riding risk, I think it was more a gradual drifting back into it. I started slowly, just short rides on sunny days. And that evolved to the point that I'm more involved in our sport more than ever. Way more than ever.
Being there for your family is a huge responsibility. THE main responsibility. But you can't deny who you are, what makes you, you. I was out for a ride yesterday with some friends and I missed a corner BADLY. All the way into the other lane in a blind right hander. It was BAD. First time I'd done that in decades. It really shook me up and jolted me into remembering that my first responsibility during any ride is to get home safely to my family. I have changed my riding dramatically since 2010. I used to ride 800 mph with my hair on fire but suffice to say, those days are long gone. And yesterday reminded me that I still have that ego that wants to keep up with the quick guys and that I have to tamp that down. It's pointless. I'm 60 yrs old and done almost everything you can do on a motorcycle. I don't anything to prove to anybody. And neither do you.
I would advise you to just give it a rest for a while, however long it takes to get your mind right about how, what, where, IF, you will ride in the future. It's a gut-wrenching decision for sure. I wish you all the luck and fast healing!
Mario
From: Christian Els tian647@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 11:49 AM
To: Ducati Owners Group ducati@list.ducati.net
Subject: [Ducati] Re: selling a motorcycle
On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 1:14 AM Gleeb Gliber Galactica Gavorti wrote:
Next up is a 1955 Victoria Bergermeister (sp?) V35 owned by "my '' bodywork guy. Holy Cow those are just about the coolest things.
TIL. That is a very interesting moto, I only wish I were at the 'collecting motos as art' stage of life because as lovely as it is, I can't imagine making a rider out of it.
Speaking of making a rider out of something, a couple weeks back a cage ran me over and smashed my leg and my daily ride. I'm still waiting for the insurance company to appraise her sad state and determine if she'll be roadworthy again or just parts. In this interim, I've had for the first time in my life serious thoughts of maybe stopping riding. It's little to do with my actual injuries and all about the potential outcome of what might have happened had the car not stopped when they felt the first bump (my bike) and nailed the second one (me), and all the inconvenience on me and my family with a myriad of dumb everyday tasks I can't quite accomplish right now, e.g. getting my coffee from the kitchen to my office downstars, or even getting to my office downstairs. I have ridden motorcycles for 41 years at this point, at varying levels of interest, competitiveness and commitment. A large part of my self identity is invested in being a Motorcyclist. But in that incident I saw a ghost and it's set off a lot of uncomfortable questions. I already stopped racing bikes over a decade ago, have dwindled from dozens to one or no track days a year, shifted from all-weather commuting to nice spring and fall days. Maybe it's time. But then, who am I?
Sorry for the digression, but perhaps some of you have perspectives in this vain you might share. I appreciate your collective wisdom.
Christian