I am looking for ideas on how to find my 2nd great grandfather’s death record. We believe he died between 1881 (after he witnessed his daughter’s death) and 1882 (when his wife and children emigrated to America). Family lore has it that the family came to the US because their father had died, and his wife is listed in city directories and census records as a widow.
His name was Patrick Conway and we believe he was born sometime between 1830 and 1840 in County Tyrone. He was a Catholic farmer, married to Unity McGlinn. I have located family records that include a marriage record in Plumbridge, birth records for two children born in Corramore and birth records for four children born in Aughdoorish. I have also found the death records for two of his daughters – jut not him. On this side of the pond I have tracked down records for his wife and six other children with no trace of him over here.
Places I have unsuccessfully looked include Ancestry, My Heritage and [X] irishgenealogy.comhttps://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Firishgenealogy.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51cf3147c2784acd416708d87875fab7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637391795390081268%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=dbW4Io5aB8DDzkwxtiL8Xi%2FCDgYZ2Vw2LyysTJlyC2Q%3D&reserved=0 Everyone seems to be too old, too young or never married.
Does anyone have any suggestions of where to look or why I cannot locate a record? I would think that even if he died elsewhere in Ireland there would be a civil record of it.
Any help is greatly appreciated, and my sincere thanks in advance.
Jane Conway
Hi Jane,
Writing from my phone so brief.
In 1864, Margaret Conway was baptised to Patrick and Unity Conway and a
Rose Falls was the sponsor.
In 1891, the death of a Patt Conway, bachelor, farmer, aged 66, was
recorded by Ellen Falls, of Aughdoorish.
Is it possible that whatever fallout led Patrick's family to leave him
behind in Ireland, also caused Ellen Falls, perhaps a sister, to register
him as a bachelor when he died?
Just a thought.
Boyd
On Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 02:18 - Jane Conway via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
I am looking for ideas on how to find my 2nd great grandfather’s death
record. We believe he died between 1881 (after he witnessed his daughter’s
death) and 1882 (when his wife and children emigrated to America). Family
lore has it that the family came to the US because their father had died,
and his wife is listed in city directories and census records as a widow.
His name was Patrick Conway and we believe he was born sometime between
1830 and 1840 in County Tyrone. He was a Catholic farmer, married to Unity
McGlinn. I have located family records that include a marriage record in
Plumbridge, birth records for two children born in Corramore and birth
records for four children born in Aughdoorish. I have also found the death
records for two of his daughters – jut not him. On this side of the pond I
have tracked down records for his wife and six other children with no trace
of him over here.
Places I have unsuccessfully looked include Ancestry, My Heritage and [X]
irishgenealogy.com<
https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Firishgenealogy.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51cf3147c2784acd416708d87875fab7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637391795390081268%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=dbW4Io5aB8DDzkwxtiL8Xi%2FCDgYZ2Vw2LyysTJlyC2Q%3D&reserved=0>
Everyone seems to be too old, too young or never married.
Does anyone have any suggestions of where to look or why I cannot locate a
record? I would think that even if he died elsewhere in Ireland there would
be a civil record of it.
Any help is greatly appreciated, and my sincere thanks in advance.
Jane Conway
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Thanks for getting back to me. This is possible, but not probable. Unity would have had to have been very upset to leave her husband and immigrate to the US with several minor aged children, and few real job skills.
It seems odd that here is no civil death record for Patrick. o you know if any were destroyed , lost, burned, or flooded?
Jane
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Hi Jane,
Writing from my phone so brief.
In 1864, Margaret Conway was baptised to Patrick and Unity Conway and a
Rose Falls was the sponsor.
In 1891, the death of a Patt Conway, bachelor, farmer, aged 66, was
recorded by Ellen Falls, of Aughdoorish.
Is it possible that whatever fallout led Patrick's family to leave him
behind in Ireland, also caused Ellen Falls, perhaps a sister, to register
him as a bachelor when he died?
Just a thought.
Boyd
On Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 02:18 - Jane Conway via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
I am looking for ideas on how to find my 2nd great grandfather’s death
record. We believe he died between 1881 (after he witnessed his daughter’s
death) and 1882 (when his wife and children emigrated to America). Family
lore has it that the family came to the US because their father had died,
and his wife is listed in city directories and census records as a widow.
His name was Patrick Conway and we believe he was born sometime between
1830 and 1840 in County Tyrone. He was a Catholic farmer, married to Unity
McGlinn. I have located family records that include a marriage record in
Plumbridge, birth records for two children born in Corramore and birth
records for four children born in Aughdoorish. I have also found the death
records for two of his daughters – jut not him. On this side of the pond I
have tracked down records for his wife and six other children with no trace
of him over here.
Places I have unsuccessfully looked include Ancestry, My Heritage and [X]
irishgenealogy.com<
[X] https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Firishgenealogy.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C9f8ed84f329e4bd6420308d878b91cf2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637392083728834210%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=WfLbn1U5xcb7DCYS2dnukC6NF4wlrONr620h90RJkCY%3D&reserved=0>
Everyone seems to be too old, too young or never married.
Does anyone have any suggestions of where to look or why I cannot locate a
record? I would think that even if he died elsewhere in Ireland there would
be a civil record of it.
Any help is greatly appreciated, and my sincere thanks in advance.
Jane Conway
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Hello Jane,
Have you referred to https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp in your search for the death of Patrick Conway? A search of the deaths of all individuals named Patrick within the registration districts of Omagh, Strabane and Londonderry for the years 1881 and 1882 failed to find any record of him. Civil registration records were not subject to floods, fire and insect infestation as copies of all records were retained in the local registrar’s office and a transcription forwarded to the General Registrar in Dublin. It appears from the lack of any record that the death was not registered; not such an uncommon outcome as I have found during my years of transcribing records.
You may wish to refer to the website (certificates are downloadable at no cost) for other family members who remained at home..
Regards,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
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Hi Len,
I made similar points in a reply which I stupidly sent to Jane alone and
not the group. I am copying it below as I think it will help other
people. I am also adding a postscript for information I have since
discovered.
Lots of certs are missing, especially death certs, usually because no one
bothered to register the event.
But some were indeed lost, including some from Strabane. I can see
seventeen Conway deaths between 1880 and 1884 registered in the Plumbridge
sub district of Strabane at GRONI:
Registration number Forename of deceased Surname of deceased Date of death
Age at death Date of birth Sex of deceased Registration district
D/1880/220/1027/4/125 Patrick Conway 25th March 1880 23 Male
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1881/220/1027/4/219 Bridget Conway 21st January 1881 86 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1881/220/1027/4/228 John Conway 8th February 1881 3 Male
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1881/220/1027/4/246 Catherine Conway 7th April 1881 1 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1881/220/1027/5/23 Margaret Conway 1st July 1881 5 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1883/220/1027/5/186 Rose Conway 23rd April 1882 85 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1882/220/1027/5/122 Catherine Conway 11th September 1882 14 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1883/220/1027/5/135 Bridget Conway 6th November 1882 50 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1882/220/1027/5/125 Edward Conway 8th November 1882 17 Male
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1883/220/1027/5/169 Arthur Conway 22nd March 1883 24 Male
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1883/220/1027/5/175 Bridget Conway 28th March 1883 64 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1884/220/1027/6/7 Mary Conway 25th February 1884 107 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1884/220/1027/6/25 James Conway 7th April 1884 82 Male Strabane(pre-1973
Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1884/220/1027/6/36 Patrick Conway 28th April 1884 84 Male
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1884/220/1027/6/45 Rose Conway 12th May 1884 89 Female Strabane(pre-1973
Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1884/220/1027/6/60 Catherine Conway 18th August 1884 75 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1884/220/1027/6/63 Thomas Conway 25th August 1884 75 Male
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4)
(The two Patrick Conways here look too old or too young but I cannot check
any of these because they cost £2.50 each at GRONI.)
This is out of a total of 22 for Strabane at GRONI, the other five being
from Newtownstewart sub district, none from Donemana and none from Strabane
itself. These are the Newtownstewart five:
Registration number Forename of deceased Surname of deceased Date of death
Age at death Date of birth Sex of deceased Registration district
D/1882/219/1027/5/105 Eliza Conway 25th July 1882 24 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1883/219/1027/5/196 Charles Conway 6th April 1883 9 Male
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1883/219/1027/5/216 Patrick Conway 3rd June 1883 16 Male
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1884/219/1027/6/31 Ann Conway 10th January 1884 1 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1884/219/1027/6/90 Catharine Conway 18th July 1884 2 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
Even though Conways may be more prevalent in Plumbridge than elsewhere in
the Strabane district, it is hard to believe there were no Conways in the
town of Strabane itself.
Here is the problem. Not many people realise this but the registers held
at different online websites are NOT the same documents. This is because
some websites use the local registry office, some use the district office,
some use the Dublin registers and some use the Belfast registers. All were
supposed to be copies of the original local registers but of course,
mistakes were made, books lost etc. It is interesting to note the
IrishGenealogy only has five death records for Conway for ALL of Strabane:
Death of ANN CONWAY in 1884
Group Registration ID 6510927
SR District/Reg Area Strabane
Deceased Age at Death 1
Death of CATHERINE CONWAY in 1884
Group Registration ID 5932684
SR District/Reg Area Strabane
Deceased Age at Death 2
Death of ELIZA CONWAY in 1882
Group Registration ID 6998431
SR District/Reg Area Strabane
Deceased Age at Death 24
Death of PATRICK CONWAY in 1883
Group Registration ID 6259279
SR District/Reg Area Strabane
Deceased Age at Death 16
Death of CHARLES CONWAY in 1883
Group Registration ID 6249685
SR District/Reg Area Strabane
Deceased Age at Death 9
A quick check shows that these are the five deaths registered in
Newtownstewart, according to GRONI. That of course means that
IrishGenealogy has NONE of the deaths at Plumbridge sub district which is
the one that interests you!!!
RootsIreland has precisely NO Conway deaths for the entire Strabane
district between 1880 and 1884!! So, hard luck anyone who is only using
only RootsIreland.
The moral of this story? You need to use all of the various websites and
even then, the one you are looking for may be lost or, as I suggested
above, was simply never registered.
Sorry if this is not very helpful.
And here is the postscript. I have since learned that, and I am
paraphrasing here, there was a separate registration district for Gortin
under Strabane, which might well be under Omagh now. So, you did well to
check Omagh as well, I would never have thought of that. Either way, if
you did not find Patrick, then, as you say, it is just another example of
how people never found the time to walk all the way into town to register a
death.
Regards,
B
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 11:05, Len Swindley len_swindley@hotmail.com wrote:
Hello Jane,
Have you referred to
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp in
your search for the death of Patrick Conway? A search of the deaths of all
individuals named Patrick within the registration districts of Omagh,
Strabane and Londonderry for the years 1881 and 1882 failed to find any
record of him. Civil registration records were not subject to floods, fire
and insect infestation as copies of all records were retained in the local
registrar’s office and a transcription forwarded to the General Registrar
in Dublin. It appears from the lack of any record that the death was not
registered; not such an uncommon outcome as I have found during my years of
transcribing records.
You may wish to refer to the website (certificates are downloadable at no
cost) for other family members who remained at home..
Regards,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
Sent from Mail https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 for
Windows 10
Adding to Boyd’s comments, my guide to Irish registration districts says
Gortin was abolished on 1st April 1889 (when the associated Poor Law Union
was also closed). The townlands that had been in Gortin registration area
and Poor Law Union were split between Strabane & Omagh.
So an event in Plumbridge in the period 1845 – 1889 will be on
irishgenealogy under Gortin, but 1889 onwards it will be registered under
Strabane. (GRONI has them all under Strabane).
There’s a similar anomaly with Irvinestown (which was originally named
Lowtherstown). Early events registered there are on irishgenealogy under
Lowtherstown, and later ones under Irvinestown. (Not quite sure of the year
it changed).
I agree with Boyd about gaps in the records. Some are due to
mis-transcriptions but there also appear to be records that are simply
missing. GRONI appears to have the most complete set but it is the least
flexible for searching purposes. With irishgenealogy I sometimes search
under forename only (as I think Boyd did here). You will be fascinated by
some of the obvious howlers that come up as surnames, having been
incorrectly entered. You would often never have found the record with all
the wild cards in the world. The GRONI site doesn’t allow you to search on
forename only which is a great pity.
Worth adding that when civil registration of RC marriages started on
1.1.1864 not every priest sent marriage details to the civil registrar.
They were supposed to but they didn’t, either because they resented state
interference in their affairs or perhaps just through carelessness. (Some
weren’t great at keeping parish records either). So for the period 1864 –
to 1880 at least, there are parishes where lots of RC marriages are missing
from the civil registers. Notably in Donegal but also in either St Peter’s
or St Patrick’s in Belfast (I forget which).
Elwyn
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 13:56, Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
Hi Len,
I made similar points in a reply which I stupidly sent to Jane alone and
not the group. I am copying it below as I think it will help other
people. I am also adding a postscript for information I have since
discovered.
Lots of certs are missing, especially death certs, usually because no one
bothered to register the event.
But some were indeed lost, including some from Strabane. I can see
seventeen Conway deaths between 1880 and 1884 registered in the Plumbridge
sub district of Strabane at GRONI:
Registration number Forename of deceased Surname of deceased Date of death
Age at death Date of birth Sex of deceased Registration district
D/1880/220/1027/4/125 Patrick Conway 25th March 1880 23 Male
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1881/220/1027/4/219 Bridget Conway 21st January 1881 86 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1881/220/1027/4/228 John Conway 8th February 1881 3 Male
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1881/220/1027/4/246 Catherine Conway 7th April 1881 1 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1881/220/1027/5/23 Margaret Conway 1st July 1881 5 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1883/220/1027/5/186 Rose Conway 23rd April 1882 85 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1882/220/1027/5/122 Catherine Conway 11th September 1882 14 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1883/220/1027/5/135 Bridget Conway 6th November 1882 50 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1882/220/1027/5/125 Edward Conway 8th November 1882 17 Male
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1883/220/1027/5/169 Arthur Conway 22nd March 1883 24 Male
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1883/220/1027/5/175 Bridget Conway 28th March 1883 64 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1884/220/1027/6/7 Mary Conway 25th February 1884 107 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1884/220/1027/6/25 James Conway 7th April 1884 82 Male Strabane(pre-1973
Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1884/220/1027/6/36 Patrick Conway 28th April 1884 84 Male
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1884/220/1027/6/45 Rose Conway 12th May 1884 89 Female Strabane(pre-1973
Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1884/220/1027/6/60 Catherine Conway 18th August 1884 75 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1884/220/1027/6/63 Thomas Conway 25th August 1884 75 Male
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4)
(The two Patrick Conways here look too old or too young but I cannot check
any of these because they cost £2.50 each at GRONI.)
This is out of a total of 22 for Strabane at GRONI, the other five being
from Newtownstewart sub district, none from Donemana and none from Strabane
itself. These are the Newtownstewart five:
Registration number Forename of deceased Surname of deceased Date of death
Age at death Date of birth Sex of deceased Registration district
D/1882/219/1027/5/105 Eliza Conway 25th July 1882 24 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1883/219/1027/5/196 Charles Conway 6th April 1883 9 Male
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1883/219/1027/5/216 Patrick Conway 3rd June 1883 16 Male
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1884/219/1027/6/31 Ann Conway 10th January 1884 1 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
D/1884/219/1027/6/90 Catharine Conway 18th July 1884 2 Female
Strabane(pre-1973 Q4) Enhanced
Full
Order certificate
Even though Conways may be more prevalent in Plumbridge than elsewhere in
the Strabane district, it is hard to believe there were no Conways in the
town of Strabane itself.
Here is the problem. Not many people realise this but the registers held
at different online websites are NOT the same documents. This is because
some websites use the local registry office, some use the district office,
some use the Dublin registers and some use the Belfast registers. All were
supposed to be copies of the original local registers but of course,
mistakes were made, books lost etc. It is interesting to note the
IrishGenealogy only has five death records for Conway for ALL of Strabane:
Death of ANN CONWAY in 1884
Group Registration ID 6510927
SR District/Reg Area Strabane
Deceased Age at Death 1
Death of CATHERINE CONWAY in 1884
Group Registration ID 5932684
SR District/Reg Area Strabane
Deceased Age at Death 2
Death of ELIZA CONWAY in 1882
Group Registration ID 6998431
SR District/Reg Area Strabane
Deceased Age at Death 24
Death of PATRICK CONWAY in 1883
Group Registration ID 6259279
SR District/Reg Area Strabane
Deceased Age at Death 16
Death of CHARLES CONWAY in 1883
Group Registration ID 6249685
SR District/Reg Area Strabane
Deceased Age at Death 9
A quick check shows that these are the five deaths registered in
Newtownstewart, according to GRONI. That of course means that
IrishGenealogy has NONE of the deaths at Plumbridge sub district which is
the one that interests you!!!
RootsIreland has precisely NO Conway deaths for the entire Strabane
district between 1880 and 1884!! So, hard luck anyone who is only using
only RootsIreland.
The moral of this story? You need to use all of the various websites and
even then, the one you are looking for may be lost or, as I suggested
above, was simply never registered.
Sorry if this is not very helpful.
And here is the postscript. I have since learned that, and I am
paraphrasing here, there was a separate registration district for Gortin
under Strabane, which might well be under Omagh now. So, you did well to
check Omagh as well, I would never have thought of that. Either way, if
you did not find Patrick, then, as you say, it is just another example of
how people never found the time to walk all the way into town to register a
death.
Regards,
B
https://www.westulstergenealogy.com/
https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/
http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 11:05, Len Swindley len_swindley@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hello Jane,
Have you referred to
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp in
your search for the death of Patrick Conway? A search of the deaths of
all
individuals named Patrick within the registration districts of Omagh,
Strabane and Londonderry for the years 1881 and 1882 failed to find any
record of him. Civil registration records were not subject to floods,
fire
and insect infestation as copies of all records were retained in the
local
registrar’s office and a transcription forwarded to the General Registrar
in Dublin. It appears from the lack of any record that the death was not
registered; not such an uncommon outcome as I have found during my years
of
transcribing records.
You may wish to refer to the website (certificates are downloadable at no
cost) for other family members who remained at home..
Regards,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
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