Re: 94 900ss stuck in 2nd gear- Now all fixed?

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ducdude
Sun, May 1, 2022 11:37 AM

First thank you all for your help and support on this issue!

The engine side case was disassembled and the findings were as follows.  The adjustment and timing of the arm and the shift drum  were all off.  All the springs were intact.  I had replaced the center spring and the shift arm about 35K miles after I tossed the bike at the ground and damaged the shift bits.  Also noted was a good bit of damage and interference marks on the arm where it interfaces with the shift drum.

Since the bike is pushing 100K miles it was decided to replace the entire shift assembly;  shift lever shaft,  both arms, springs and fasteners with new “upgraded” bits.  Not sure if they are really upgraded but they are new and the material on the upper arm looks different so perhaps it will all last another 100k miles or more.

I have had this bike since new so, now I guess I have to start thinking about it like an old bike, and not a new one and start keeping a eye out for old bike issues, like this.

She (Gabriela) has not had an easy life, working a daily driver and commuter to school and work, long distance touring mount, track bike, hooligan bike and early wrenching learning platform.  That said in 28 years she  always got me home, always delivered thrills with confidence and on more occasions then I can recall taught me important lessons about riding on the street and track and believe it or not a few things about life.

Not bad for any motorcycle..

Ciao and thanks again,

Eric


Eric,

Pull the left side cover (drain the oil, pull the slave cylinder and rod, be prepared to hang the cover by a bungee or something unless you wan to disconnect all the wiring, have a puller to break the cover loose.....and remember to get ALL the screws....the short one by the slave cylinder is easy to miss....so if the puller takes "too much effort" make sure you have pulled all the screws) and figure out if the return spring is broken, or if the shifter mechanism just came loose and is out of adjustment.  You'll have to pull the cover either way.  Odds are the spring broke. Â

It's inexpensive and easy to repair.  A search for Ducati Shifter Return Spring will likely result in several video and website hitsThere is no gasket, so clean everything well and use Yamabond or similar  to seal the cover on reassembly.  The manual recommends a special tool for aligning the fork to the drum, but a careful eye can align the mark on the fork to the centerline of the drum and test function while everything is apart to ensure proper function.  If you have a spring in hand the whole thing should take any decent mechanic less than an hour, so count on two hours for your first time.

Scott Cloninger


On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 9:22 AM karlb851@optonline.net wrote:

You need to pull the alternator cover and examine the gearbox drum control fork which pivots off the gearshift arm and spindle. There is a small spring that gives tension to the control fork. This spring can fail.


On Apr 15, 2022, at 4:44 PM, ducdude ducdude@verizon.net wrote:

Riding home today coming off the highway downshifting as I slow down I got into 2nd and tried for 1st but the shifter would not move.

The angle of the shifter was past the 1st position and almost fowling the kick stand when retracted. The bike ran fine in 2nd and I made it home but now I am faced with a stuck shifter.

one care to point me in a good diagnostic  as far as were to look or what to try to fix this particular issue.

Many Thanks,

Eric

94 900SS

First thank you all for your help and support on this issue! The engine side case was disassembled and the findings were as follows. The adjustment and timing of the arm and the shift drum were all off. All the springs were intact. I had replaced the center spring and the shift arm about 35K miles after I tossed the bike at the ground and damaged the shift bits. Also noted was a good bit of damage and interference marks on the arm where it interfaces with the shift drum. Since the bike is pushing 100K miles it was decided to replace the entire shift assembly; shift lever shaft, both arms, springs and fasteners with new “upgraded” bits. Not sure if they are really upgraded but they are new and the material on the upper arm looks different so perhaps it will all last another 100k miles or more. I have had this bike since new so, now I guess I have to start thinking about it like an old bike, and not a new one and start keeping a eye out for old bike issues, like this. She (Gabriela) has not had an easy life, working a daily driver and commuter to school and work, long distance touring mount, track bike, hooligan bike and early wrenching learning platform. That said in 28 years she always got me home, always delivered thrills with confidence and on more occasions then I can recall taught me important lessons about riding on the street and track and believe it or not a few things about life. Not bad for any motorcycle.. Ciao and thanks again, Eric -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric, Pull the left side cover (drain the oil, pull the slave cylinder and rod, be prepared to hang the cover by a bungee or something unless you wan to disconnect all the wiring, have a puller to break the cover loose.....and remember to get ALL the screws....the short one by the slave cylinder is easy to miss....so if the puller takes "too much effort" make sure you have pulled all the screws) and figure out if the return spring is broken, or if the shifter mechanism just came loose and is out of adjustment. You'll have to pull the cover either way. Odds are the spring broke.  It's inexpensive and easy to repair. A search for Ducati Shifter Return Spring will likely result in several video and website hitsThere is no gasket, so clean everything well and use Yamabond or similar to seal the cover on reassembly. The manual recommends a special tool for aligning the fork to the drum, but a careful eye can align the mark on the fork to the centerline of the drum and test function while everything is apart to ensure proper function. If you have a spring in hand the whole thing should take any decent mechanic less than an hour, so count on two hours for your first time. Scott Cloninger ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 9:22 AM <karlb851@optonline.net> wrote: You need to pull the alternator cover and examine the gearbox drum control fork which pivots off the gearshift arm and spindle. There is a small spring that gives tension to the control fork. This spring can fail. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Apr 15, 2022, at 4:44 PM, ducdude <ducdude@verizon.net> wrote: Riding home today coming off the highway downshifting as I slow down I got into 2nd and tried for 1st but the shifter would not move. The angle of the shifter was past the 1st position and almost fowling the kick stand when retracted. The bike ran fine in 2nd and I made it home but now I am faced with a stuck shifter. one care to point me in a good diagnostic as far as were to look or what to try to fix this particular issue. Many Thanks, Eric 94 900SS