Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
I was thinking that maybe there was a church of England located in the area where he lived in Ontario?
On Thursday, January 7, 2021 Gordon Wilkinson Gordon.wilkinson@ozemail.com.au wrote:
Hi Rick, unable to help you, although I have been to Simcoe several times. I am intrigued by the reference to Church of England, as in Ireland it was the church of Ireland, and still is, being the established church at the time. Maybe somewhat surprisingly it still has its main HQ in Dublin. Gordon
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On 8 Jan 2021, at 2:59 am, Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
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Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed "(late 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ??Jim
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
Rick Smoll
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The official name of the Church of England in Canada remained until 1955 (Google search) when it became the Anglican Church of Canada. Australia was a little slower as the Church retained the title “Church of England” until 1981. In colonial days here in Melbourne, it was known as the United Church of England and Ireland (1870s photo of the signboard outside St. Luke’s, South Melbourne/ Emerald Hill), so catering for both English and Irish immigrants. I recall walking home from school through the grounds of the “Church of England” in the 1960s.
LEN SWINDLEY, Melbourne, Australia
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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
I was thinking that maybe there was a church of England located in the area where he lived in Ontario?
On Thursday, January 7, 2021 Gordon Wilkinson Gordon.wilkinson@ozemail.com.au wrote:
Hi Rick, unable to help you, although I have been to Simcoe several times. I am intrigued by the reference to Church of England, as in Ireland it was the church of Ireland, and still is, being the established church at the time. Maybe somewhat surprisingly it still has its main HQ in Dublin. Gordon
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On 8 Jan 2021, at 2:59 am, Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.commailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
Thanks Len
Rick Smoll
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#yiv1299294782 #yiv1299294782 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv1299294782 #yiv1299294782 p.yiv1299294782MsoNormal, #yiv1299294782 li.yiv1299294782MsoNormal, #yiv1299294782 div.yiv1299294782MsoNormal {margin:0cm;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv1299294782 a:link, #yiv1299294782 span.yiv1299294782MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1299294782 .yiv1299294782MsoChpDefault {} _filtered {}#yiv1299294782 div.yiv1299294782WordSection1 {}#yiv1299294782 The official name of the Church of England in Canada remained until 1955 (Google search) when it became the Anglican Church of Canada. Australia was a little slower as the Church retained the title “Church of England” until 1981. In colonial days here in Melbourne, it was known as the United Church of England and Ireland (1870s photo of the signboard outside St. Luke’s, South Melbourne/ Emerald Hill), so catering for both English and Irish immigrants. I recall walking home from school through the grounds of the “Church of England” in the 1960s. LEN SWINDLEY, Melbourne, Australia Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList
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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario I was thinking that maybe there was a church of England located in the area where he lived in Ontario? On Thursday, January 7, 2021 Gordon Wilkinson Gordon.wilkinson@ozemail.com.au wrote: Hi Rick, unable to help you, although I have been to Simcoe several times. I am intrigued by the reference to Church of England, as in Ireland it was the church of Ireland, and still is, being the established church at the time. Maybe somewhat surprisingly it still has its main HQ in Dublin. Gordon
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On 8 Jan 2021, at 2:59 am, Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919 I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him. Rick
Yes, we refer to them now a days as Anglican Churches.
Here is an historical one
http://archives.bradford.library.on.ca/uploads/r/null/1/8/6/18696da02e187f62e0eb13adbc76de5564fcbc43b2e49776af5d30e7d5e2cdcc/26643.jpg
I'm sure they would have travelled by this church a few times.
Alliston was built up around a mill on the Boyne River and was the home
of Sir Frederick Banting. St. Andrew's Anglican was begun in 1874.
https://www.standrewanglican.ca/
St. Peter's Anglican Church, Cookstown
https://www1.stpeterschurchill.org/st-johns-cookstown/
St. John's Anglican, New Tecumseth, is now just a cemetery
St. Jude's, Thornton is now closed.
https://www.parishofnorthessa.ca/our-history-christ-church-st-judes-ivy/
Many of our country churches have amalgamated. There is always the
chance that they attended a different church after marriage like the
United Church of Canada.
Here is the New Tecumseth Library site https://ntpl.ca/local-history/
New Tecumseth, and Innisfil, originally townships are now called towns.
Here is Innisfil https://www.innisfilidealab.ca/genealogy-and-local-history/
I hope that you can find something of interest.
Susan
On 2021-01-08 5:30 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
I was thinking that maybe there was a church of England located in the
area where he lived in Ontario?
On Thursday, January 7, 2021 Gordon Wilkinson
Gordon.wilkinson@ozemail.com.au wrote:
Hi Rick, unable to help you, although I have been to Simcoe several
times. I am intrigued by the reference to Church of England, as in
Ireland it was the church of Ireland, and still is, being the
established church at the time. Maybe somewhat surprisingly it still
has its main HQ in Dublin. Gordon
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yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship
before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
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Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late
19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ??
Jim
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList
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This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I
understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with
knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were
the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have
found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late
19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He
married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T.
who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe
County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area
that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic
community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage
certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of
England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any
comments on that?
Thanks!!
Rick Smoll
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Yes, we refer to them now a days as Anglican Churches. Here is an historical onehttp://archives.bradford.library.on.ca/uploads/r/null/1/8/6/18696da02e187f62e0eb13adbc76de5564fcbc43b2e49776af5d30e7d5e2cdcc/26643.jpg I'm sure they would have travelled by this church a few times. Alliston was built up around a mill on the Boyne River and was the home of Sir Frederick Banting. St. Andrew's Anglican was begun in 1874. https://www.standrewanglican.ca/ St. Peter's Anglican Church, Cookstown https://www1.stpeterschurchill.org/st-johns-cookstown/ St. John's Anglican, New Tecumseth, is now just a cemetery St. Jude's, Thornton is now closed. https://www.parishofnorthessa.ca/our-history-christ-church-st-judes-ivy/ Many of our country churches have amalgamated. There is always the chance that they attended a different church after marriage like the United Church of Canada.
Here is the New Tecumseth Library site https://ntpl.ca/local-history/ New Tecumseth, and Innisfil, originally townships are now called towns. Here is Innisfil https://www.innisfilidealab.ca/genealogy-and-local-history/
I hope that you can find something of interest.
Susan
On 2021-01-08 5:30 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
I was thinking that maybe there was a church of England located in the area where he lived in Ontario?
On Thursday, January 7, 2021 Gordon Wilkinson Gordon.wilkinson@ozemail.com.au wrote:
Hi Rick, unable to help you, although I have been to Simcoe several times. I am intrigued by the reference to Church of England, as in Ireland it was the church of Ireland, and still is, being the established church at the time. Maybe somewhat surprisingly it still has its main HQ in Dublin. Gordon
Sent from Gordon's iPad - neredon@gmail.com 🇦🇺
On 8 Jan 2021, at 2:59 am, Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
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Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Simcoe County, Ontario
Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ?? Jim
Jim McKane
CoTyroneIreland.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
Rick Smoll
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