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Len Swindley

Mon, Jan 17, 2022 10:01 AM

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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: New Content - Rodgers & Rogers Genealogy Notes, Co. Donegal, Ireland 1830-69

Many thanks Len for this information and all the work you do. I was intrigued to see a Nathaniel Rodgers of Tierkeren marrying in 1845 in Castlefin. One of the branches of my family were Rodgers at Tierkeren, the earliest known name I have is Andrew Rodgers, who is a tenant there at the time of Griffiths but was there before this according to records for Ballindrait Presbyterian Church. Nathaniel is a new name to me, perhaps a brother to Andrew. If anyone knows anything about this family I would be very interested. I am also intrigued by the fact that the marriage took place in someone's house.
Thanks again Marion Shephard

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From: James McKane via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
Date: 14/01/2022 10:52 (GMT+00:00)
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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] New Content - Rodgers & Rogers Genealogy Notes, Co. Donegal, Ireland 1830-69

Rodgers & Rogers Genealogy Notes, Co. Donegal, Ireland 1830-69https://www.cotyroneireland.com/surnames/rodgers2.html

Thanks again to Len Swindley for another great addition to CTI!

Jim McKane
Kitchener, Ontario

Thanks for your kind comments, Marion. Civil Registration of non-Catholic marriages in Ireland commenced on April 1 1845 and the ceremony was required to be take place in a registered building; a parish church (Church of Ireland) a Presbyterian Meetinghouse and the Registrar’s Office (where many mixed marriages will be found). Reformed Presbyterian and Methodist houses of worship were not registered, but marriages could be performed in those places of worship, but only in the presence of the Registrar who would record the event in HIS register. Prior to the introduction of civil registration, it was a tradition for Presbyterian marriages to occur in the home of the bride and I have transcribed many pre 1845 events from Londonderry newspaper announcements. Prior to April 1845, it was illegal for a Presbyterian minister to perform a marriage between a Presbyterian and a member of the Church of Ireland. I guess you have located the Rodgers marriages in my file of marriages performed in Ballindrait Presbyterian Church? www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/ballindrait.html<http://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/ballindrait.html> The name NATHANIEL ROGERS is familiar to me and can be found in Tiernisk, in adjoining Donaghmore parish (Tirkeeran and Tiernisk townlands would be about 5 kms distant as the crow flies) and may point to the families origins in Co. Donegal. The ROGERS family has a very long presence in Donaghmore parish and the name can be found in several files amongst my submissions to CTI www.cotyroneireland.com<http://www.cotyroneireland.com> Presbyterian Ruling Elders and Commissioners 1620-1700 www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donoughmore.html<http://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donoughmore.html> Donaghmore Tithe Applotment Book 1815 www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/donaghmore1815.html<http://www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/donaghmore1815.html> Donaghmore Tithe Applotment Book 1826 www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/donaghmore1826.html<http://www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/donaghmore1826.html> Doubtless you will locate further records relating to these folk, Regards, Len Swindley ________________________________ From: marionshephard via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Sent: Monday, 17 January 2022 6:28 AM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Cc: marionshephard <marionshephard@btinternet.com> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: New Content - Rodgers & Rogers Genealogy Notes, Co. Donegal, Ireland 1830-69 Many thanks Len for this information and all the work you do. I was intrigued to see a Nathaniel Rodgers of Tierkeren marrying in 1845 in Castlefin. One of the branches of my family were Rodgers at Tierkeren, the earliest known name I have is Andrew Rodgers, who is a tenant there at the time of Griffiths but was there before this according to records for Ballindrait Presbyterian Church. Nathaniel is a new name to me, perhaps a brother to Andrew. If anyone knows anything about this family I would be very interested. I am also intrigued by the fact that the marriage took place in someone's house. Thanks again Marion Shephard Sent from my Galaxy -------- Original message -------- From: James McKane via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Date: 14/01/2022 10:52 (GMT+00:00) To: "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Cc: James McKane <jamckane@gmail.com> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] New Content - Rodgers & Rogers Genealogy Notes, Co. Donegal, Ireland 1830-69 Rodgers & Rogers Genealogy Notes, Co. Donegal, Ireland 1830-69<https://www.cotyroneireland.com/surnames/rodgers2.html> Thanks again to Len Swindley for another great addition to CTI! Jim McKane Kitchener, Ontario

marionshephard

Tue, Jan 18, 2022 2:10 PM

Thanks for your kind comments, Marion.

Civil Registration of non-Catholic marriages in Ireland commenced on April 1 1845 and the ceremony was required to be take place in a registered building; a parish church (Church of Ireland) a Presbyterian Meetinghouse and the Registrar’s Office (where many
mixed marriages will be found). Reformed Presbyterian and Methodist houses of worship were not registered, but marriages could be performed in those places of worship, but only in the presence of the Registrar who would record the event in HIS register.

Prior to the introduction of civil registration, it was a tradition for Presbyterian marriages to occur in the home of the bride and I have transcribed many pre 1845 events from Londonderry newspaper announcements. Prior to April 1845, it was illegal for a
Presbyterian minister to perform a marriage between a Presbyterian and a member of the Church of Ireland.

I guess you have located the Rodgers marriages in my file of marriages performed in Ballindrait Presbyterian Church?
www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/ballindrait.html

The name NATHANIEL ROGERS is familiar to me and can be found in Tiernisk, in adjoining Donaghmore parish (Tirkeeran and Tiernisk townlands would be about 5 kms distant as the crow flies) and may point to the families origins in Co. Donegal. The ROGERS family
has a very long presence in Donaghmore parish and the name can be found in several files amongst my submissions to CTI
www.cotyroneireland.com

Presbyterian Ruling Elders and Commissioners 1620-1700

www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donoughmore.html

Donaghmore Tithe Applotment Book 1815

www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/donaghmore1815.html

Donaghmore Tithe Applotment Book 1826

www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/donaghmore1826.html

Doubtless you will locate further records relating to these folk,

Regards, Len Swindley

Many thanks Len for this information and all the work you do. I was intrigued to see a Nathaniel Rodgers of Tierkeren marrying in 1845 in Castlefin. One of the branches of my family were Rodgers at Tierkeren, the earliest known name I have
is Andrew Rodgers, who is a tenant there at the time of Griffiths but was there before this according to records for Ballindrait Presbyterian Church. Nathaniel is a new name to me, perhaps a brother to Andrew. If anyone knows anything about this family I would
be very interested. I am also intrigued by the fact that the marriage took place in someone's house.
Thanks again Marion Shephard

Sent from my Galaxy

Cc: James McKane jamckane@gmail.com
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] New Content - Rodgers & Rogers Genealogy Notes, Co. Donegal, Ireland 1830-69

Rodgers & Rogers Genealogy Notes, Co. Donegal, Ireland 1830-69

Thanks again to Len Swindley for another great addition to CTI!

Jim McKane

Kitchener, Ontario

LenMany thanks yet again Len. I have just responded to Elwyns comments and realised that much of what I asked him you have already answered. From what you say the marriage could have taken place in a home but was it then recorded by the minister. I have seen some records from Ballindrait, that were recorded in the 1820s. Was it a similar system for baptisms or were they allowed to take place in the Meeting House?Thanks also for the information about the Rodgers family. I have looked at your contributions about them in the past but one of the most difficult things I find with all my families is making connections between different branches of the same name. It was the mention of Tierkerren that leapt out at me. I have been looking at the various mentions of Nathaniel/ Nathan Rodgers for clues. His wife was a Catherine Millen and I did find a widow Catherine Rodgers ne Millen remarriage in Ramelton in 1852 but this was a long way from Castlefin! It might mean this Nathaniel died shortly after his marriage but I can't find a record of his death and it would have been before civil registration.Well I will keep trawling through all your wonderful contributions till the next clue appears.Regards MarionSent from my Galaxy -------- Original message --------From: Len Swindley <len_swindley@hotmail.com> Date: 17/01/2022 10:01 (GMT+00:00) To: "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Cc: marionshephard <marionshephard@btinternet.com>, Elwyn Soutter <elwynsoutter@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: New Content - Rodgers & Rogers Genealogy Notes, Co. Donegal, Ireland 1830-69 Thanks for your kind comments, Marion. Civil Registration of non-Catholic marriages in Ireland commenced on April 1 1845 and the ceremony was required to be take place in a registered building; a parish church (Church of Ireland) a Presbyterian Meetinghouse and the Registrar’s Office (where many mixed marriages will be found). Reformed Presbyterian and Methodist houses of worship were not registered, but marriages could be performed in those places of worship, but only in the presence of the Registrar who would record the event in HIS register. Prior to the introduction of civil registration, it was a tradition for Presbyterian marriages to occur in the home of the bride and I have transcribed many pre 1845 events from Londonderry newspaper announcements. Prior to April 1845, it was illegal for a Presbyterian minister to perform a marriage between a Presbyterian and a member of the Church of Ireland. I guess you have located the Rodgers marriages in my file of marriages performed in Ballindrait Presbyterian Church? www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/ballindrait.html The name NATHANIEL ROGERS is familiar to me and can be found in Tiernisk, in adjoining Donaghmore parish (Tirkeeran and Tiernisk townlands would be about 5 kms distant as the crow flies) and may point to the families origins in Co. Donegal. The ROGERS family has a very long presence in Donaghmore parish and the name can be found in several files amongst my submissions to CTI www.cotyroneireland.com Presbyterian Ruling Elders and Commissioners 1620-1700 www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donoughmore.html Donaghmore Tithe Applotment Book 1815 www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/donaghmore1815.html Donaghmore Tithe Applotment Book 1826 www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/donaghmore1826.html Doubtless you will locate further records relating to these folk, Regards, Len Swindley From: marionshephard via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Sent: Monday, 17 January 2022 6:28 AM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Cc: marionshephard <marionshephard@btinternet.com> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: New Content - Rodgers & Rogers Genealogy Notes, Co. Donegal, Ireland 1830-69 Many thanks Len for this information and all the work you do. I was intrigued to see a Nathaniel Rodgers of Tierkeren marrying in 1845 in Castlefin. One of the branches of my family were Rodgers at Tierkeren, the earliest known name I have is Andrew Rodgers, who is a tenant there at the time of Griffiths but was there before this according to records for Ballindrait Presbyterian Church. Nathaniel is a new name to me, perhaps a brother to Andrew. If anyone knows anything about this family I would be very interested. I am also intrigued by the fact that the marriage took place in someone's house. Thanks again Marion Shephard Sent from my Galaxy -------- Original message -------- From: James McKane via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Date: 14/01/2022 10:52 (GMT+00:00) To: "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Cc: James McKane <jamckane@gmail.com> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] New Content - Rodgers & Rogers Genealogy Notes, Co. Donegal, Ireland 1830-69 Rodgers & Rogers Genealogy Notes, Co. Donegal, Ireland 1830-69 Thanks again to Len Swindley for another great addition to CTI! Jim McKane Kitchener, Ontario