- YOU are the only person who can alter, add or remove any of your data
- no one can connect other people or trees to your data
- you are not helping direct traffic to a corporate website
- possibly a 'long lost cousin' will see your tree and make contact
- your tree is fully visible to the internet world at NO COST to you

- here I'm assuming you mean CoTyroneIreland.com (aka CTI)
- your tree may possibly attract a new user who finds your tree via a
search of the internet
- otherwise, CTI obtains no benefit

- YOU are the only person who can alter, add or remove any of your data
- no one can connect other people or trees to your data
- you are not helping direct traffic to a corporate website
- possibly a 'long lost cousin' will see your tree and make contact
- your tree is fully visible to the internet world at NO COST to you

- here I'm assuming you mean CoTyroneIreland.com (aka CTI)
- your tree may possibly attract a new user who finds your tree via a
search of the internet
- otherwise, CTI obtains no benefit

Thanks, Len. Here is an image of the original scan of the church registry, purchased recently from PRONI. [image: image.png] And a closeup of the term "Dowen bridge". [image: image.png] And an image of the full page is attached. Gratitude for confirming that it was typical for a family to walk 4-5 kms to get to their church. Apologies for not including the Parish. I did know it from searching townlands.ie. My reason for researching these families is to make the connection between 2 of my shared DNA matches, in hopes that I can then find my link to them. The three of us have already determined that the answer for them lies with the marriage of Margaret Jane BEATTIE to Charles PATTERSON at Crossroads Presby on 22 Nov 1866. (I have no Beatties' or Patterson's in my tree so far.) We have lots of information about Charles' lineage, and we know that their 3 children were born in Dunbreen, Cappagh. However, none of us can find reliable records for Margaret Jane's birth/baptism. What we do know is: 1. Their marriage record shows that Margaret's father's name was John (from their marriage record). In my own experience, a Presbyterian father cited as John could also be someone stated as William in a baptism record. 2. Margaret's death registration on 23 Jul 1893 in Dunbreen, Cappagh indicates she was aged 55. I realize that the farther away in time that you get from a birth, the less reliable the information about the person, and this is secondary information so I take it with a large dose of salt. My search request to PRONI was specifically to find the birth/baptism of Margaret Jane using the microfilm for Crossroads Presby (since that is where she married Charles), and I provided them with the above information. The only record that they found for a child of John Beattie/Beatty/Beatie/Beaty, etc. was the one for William, so I'm hoping that he is Margaret Jane's brother. (They did give me copies of other BEATTIE/BEATTIE births, but they are all after William's in 1838 and the father is not John. Today I've asked PRONI to extend their search back a little farther to see if it uncovers Margaret Jane or more children of John Beattie of Dowen Bridge. If they are not successful at Crossroads I'll ask them to check another Presby register. The question about where Dowen Bridge is located is an effort to target the closest Presby Church to Margaret's father John's location. If it's in Omagh proper, that might be a whole different kettle of fish. I appreciate your suggestion to search the individual records on the Cappagh Parish page. I've been using the general search for all of the above terms. Using the Cappagh page should help me expand my general knowledge of the families in those areas. I did realize that PETTEN would be PATTON. I should have mentioned that in my query. I did indeed check newspaper transcriptions at CoTyrone (I always check there first). I also have a subscription to Newspapers.com. In gratitude for the tremendous work you do for our community From a fellow transcriber (NIFHS), Jeanne On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 2:30 AM < cotyronelist-request@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote: > > From: Len Swindley <len_swindley@hotmail.com> > To: "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" < > cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 13:07:00 +0000 > Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Dowen Bridge near Omagh > Jeanne, where does the baptism record come from: an original register > image or a modern transcription? Such transcriptions can be risky as to > accuracy (few researchers seem adept at interpreting *ye olde* copperplate > handwriting. Do you have any further records to compare the entry? > > It is important to quote the parish of interest when seeking assistance; > in your instance it is CAPPAGH. Crossroads/ Mountjoy is one of several > Presbyterian congregations within the parish. > > I have submitted 27 files of Cappagh genealogical data to CTI > www.cotyroneireland.com/menus/cappagh.html - have you referred to these > records? The 1826 Tithe Applotment Book records eight BEATTY (as spelt) > families residing mostly in the adjoining townlands of Dunbreen and > Kingarrow, 4-5 kms from Crossroads Church (people thought little of walking > that distance in order to attend religious services, and of course there > was always the farm cart used by better-off families.) I suggest you peruse > my files. John's wife is quoted as *Petten*, but this will be PATTON: > there are two Patton families recorded in the close-by townlands of > Carrigans and Ballykeel. All these townlands are situated closer to > Newtownstewart than Omagh. > > You enquire re. newspapers from that time and I'm hoping you will find my > extensive transcriptions from the Strabane Morning Post and Londonderry > Sentinel useful and interesting. It's all waiting for you! Can you supply > a copy of the original entry contained in the register? > > Regards, > Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Jeanne Towle via CoTyroneList < > cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, 19 April 2025 11:44 PM > *To:* CoTyrone Mailing List <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> > *Cc:* Jeanne Towle <jeanne.towle@gmail.com> > *Subject:* [CoTyroneMailingList] Dowen Bridge near Omagh > > Does anyone have any information about an area close to Omagh that was > called Dowen? > > I have a baptism record from Crossroads Presbyterian Church (now known as > Mountjoy): > > William son to John BEATTIE of Dowen Bridge > Mother name PETTEN > 21 Oct 1838 > > I'm wondering where Dowen is/was specifically. How far from the Church > might it have been? How far did people travel back then to get to their > church? > > A Google and Google Maps search for Dowen in Tyrone finds nothing. > I also looked for it on a zoomed-in digital page from the 1985 OSI map of > the area (thanks again James Huey!) and couldn't find it. > > Then I asked Gemini to find something and here's what I was told: > > The name "Dowen" is connected to a small stream and an area within County > Tyrone, particularly near the town of Omagh. It's possible the bridge > you're thinking of is in that vicinity. > > Are there any particular newspapers that might have covered the area > around that time? > > Jeanne Towle > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Chris Owen <pinkapp@gmail.com> > To: "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" < > cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 06:35:59 +1000 > Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: FREE Family Tree Hosting > Hi Jim > > I had no idea CTIG hosted trees. I’ve been and read the info there and I > just wanted to ask… > What are the benefits for me and for CTIG and other subscribers if I were > to put up a tree? > Happy Easter to all > With thanks > Chris Owen > > On 20 Apr 2025, at 19:01, James McKane via CoTyroneList < > cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote: > >  > Were you aware CTI hosts family trees AT NO COST? > > See https://tng.cotyroneireland.com/index.php > > For more details just email me - jamckane@gmail.com > > Happy Easter > Jim > > Jim McKane > Kitchener, Ontario > ================================= > Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com > List Archive - > https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com > Join the list by sending an email to - > cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > To receive the Digest version, send an email to - jamckane@gmail.com > Unsubscribe by sending an email to - > cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > ================================= > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: James McKane <jamckane@gmail.com> > To: "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" < > cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> > Cc: Chris Owen <pinkapp@gmail.com> > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 18:32:51 -0400 > Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: FREE Family Tree Hosting > WOW, Chris, your opening statement - "I had no idea CTIG hosted trees" > blows me away! > AND is of huge concern to us as the link to 'Supporters' Family Trees' is > on the homepage as well as the main page for every county. > It makes us wonder what else do our supporters miss seeing? > Do our supporters only visit the new pages as they are announced without > looking at our main menus? > Hmmmmmmmmmmm??? > > Anyway to your questions....... 'the benefits for me' - > > - YOU are the only person who can alter, add or remove any of your data > - no one can connect other people or trees to your data > - you are not helping direct traffic to a corporate website > - possibly a 'long lost cousin' will see your tree and make contact > - your tree is fully visible to the internet world at NO COST to you > > > ...... 'the benefits........ for CTIG'...... > > - here I'm assuming you mean CoTyroneIreland.com (aka CTI) > - your tree may possibly attract a new user who finds your tree via a > search of the internet > - otherwise, CTI obtains no benefit > > Hopefully this answers your concerns. If not, please respond. > Thanks for your support > Jim > > Jim McKane > Kitchener, Ontario > > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 4:36 PM Chris Owen via CoTyroneList < > cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote: > >> Hi Jim >> >> I had no idea CTIG hosted trees. I?ve been and read the info there and I >> just wanted to ask? >> What are the benefits for me and for CTIG and other subscribers if I were >> to put up a tree? >> Happy Easter to all >> With thanks >> Chris Owen >> >> On 20 Apr 2025, at 19:01, James McKane via CoTyroneList < >> cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote: >> >> ? >> Were you aware CTI hosts family trees AT NO COST? >> >> See https://tng.cotyroneireland.com/index.php >> >> For more details just email me - jamckane@gmail.com >> >> Happy Easter >> Jim >> >> Jim McKane >> Kitchener, Ontario >> ================================= >> Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com >> List Archive - >> https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com >> Join the list by sending an email to - >> cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com >> To receive the Digest version, send an email to - jamckane@gmail.com >> Unsubscribe by sending an email to - >> cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com >> ================================= >> >> ================================= >> Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com >> List Archive - >> https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com >> Join the list by sending an email to - >> cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com >> To receive the Digest version, send an email to - jamckane@gmail.com >> Unsubscribe by sending an email to - >> cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com >> ================================= > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: J Scott Wilson <scott@kusawa.net> > To: "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" < > cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 16:01:38 -0700 > Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: FREE Family Tree Hosting > Dear Jim and CTI subscribers > > The offering of CTI hosted family trees is a significant and generous > service provided by CTI. It is simple to use, well-laid out and has > excellent search functions. It is a site worth MUCH wider exposure for > those researching families in Co. Tryone and their diaspora. > > I first put my Wilson tree up in 2023, I believe. I have no record of > someone reaching out to me, having first found my CTI hosted tree. I am > wondering how the individual family tree website is optimized for web > searches? Or maybe the link to Supporters' Family Trees just needs larger > exposure on the various pages? > > This is an amazing service that I suspect is under-utilized. Thank you to > Jim and those who built and maintain it. > > Scott Wilson > > On Apr 20, 2025, at 15:32, James McKane via CoTyroneList < > cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote: > > WOW, Chris, your opening statement - "I had no idea CTIG hosted trees" > blows me away! > AND is of huge concern to us as the link to 'Supporters' Family Trees' is > on the homepage as well as the main page for every county. > It makes us wonder what else do our supporters miss seeing? > Do our supporters only visit the new pages as they are announced without > looking at our main menus? > Hmmmmmmmmmmm??? > > Anyway to your questions....... 'the benefits for me' - > > - YOU are the only person who can alter, add or remove any of your data > - no one can connect other people or trees to your data > - you are not helping direct traffic to a corporate website > - possibly a 'long lost cousin' will see your tree and make contact > - your tree is fully visible to the internet world at NO COST to you > > > ...... 'the benefits........ for CTIG'...... > > - here I'm assuming you mean CoTyroneIreland.com (aka CTI) > - your tree may possibly attract a new user who finds your tree via a > search of the internet > - otherwise, CTI obtains no benefit > > Hopefully this answers your concerns. If not, please respond. > Thanks for your support > Jim > > Jim McKane > Kitchener, Ontario > > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 4:36 PM Chris Owen via CoTyroneList < > cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote: > >> Hi Jim >> >> I had no idea CTIG hosted trees. I?ve been and read the info there and I >> just wanted to ask? >> What are the benefits for me and for CTIG and other subscribers if I were >> to put up a tree? >> Happy Easter to all >> With thanks >> Chris Owen >> >> On 20 Apr 2025, at 19:01, James McKane via CoTyroneList < >> cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote: >> >> ? >> Were you aware CTI hosts family trees AT NO COST? >> >> See https://tng.cotyroneireland.com/index.php >> >> For more details just email me - jamckane@gmail.com >> >> Happy Easter >> Jim >> >> Jim McKane >> Kitchener, Ontario >> ================================= >> Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com >> List Archive - >> https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com >> Join the list by sending an email to - >> cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com >> To receive the Digest version, send an email to - jamckane@gmail.com >> Unsubscribe by sending an email to - >> cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com >> ================================= >> >> ================================= >> Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com >> List Archive - >> https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com >> Join the list by sending an email to - >> cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com >> To receive the Digest version, send an email to - jamckane@gmail.com >> Unsubscribe by sending an email to - >> cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com >> ================================= > > ================================= > Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com > List Archive - > https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com > Join the list by sending an email to - > cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > To receive the Digest version, send an email to - jamckane@gmail.com > Unsubscribe by sending an email to - > cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > ================================= > > > ================================= > If you wish to respond to one particular email, please remove all the > other emails from your reply before sending. > ================================= > Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com > List Archive - > https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com > Join the list by sending an email to - > cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > To individual emails instead of the Digest - send an email to: > cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com > Unsubscribe by sending an email to - > cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > ================================= >