Mike Snoderly wrote: > I think I’d rather see Pecco win at Sepang and then have everybody racing full out with no team orders or worries about points on the last race. Yep, I'll second that -- absolutely. But in any case, it has been a good & exciting season all-in-all, (while, of course, Formula-1 sucks anus also this year). -- peer .

I'll third that. It HAS been an exciting season. Only thing is, while I love that there are so many Ducatis in the field, I wish there were more from the other manufacturers...two more from Honda and Yamaha at the least. (was a big F1 fan for many, many, years but their suckitude these last several years kept me from watching). Mario ________________________________ From: Peer Landa <peerlanda@gmail.com> on behalf of Peer Landa <peer@ccrma.stanford.edu> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 2:46 AM To: ducati@list.ducati.net <ducati@list.ducati.net> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Phillip Island, SPOILER..... Mike Snoderly wrote: > I think I’d rather see Pecco win at Sepang and then have everybody racing full out with no team orders or worries about points on the last race. Yep, I'll second that -- absolutely. But in any case, it has been a good & exciting season all-in-all, (while, of course, Formula-1 sucks anus also this year). -- peer . To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ductalk.com%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C83e53ea80fb241cc839108dab1a60d32%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638017623986135642%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=Pz07RqAOx8n3CY5%2BBWUMFx0GEdMg7hblQFKsLAwXQvY%3D&amp;reserved=0 and https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fducnet&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C83e53ea80fb241cc839108dab1a60d32%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638017623986292245%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=61tYowgHaoi2xgvVDZuV9MHRwYQD6jfS3ztBX2BgLDY%3D&amp;reserved=0 _____________________ Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net Mailto: %(user_address)s

I might be in the minority here, but I think "team orders" has been completely blown out of proportion. Racing is a business (sadly, really fucking sadly), and Ducati doesn't put 8 bikes on the grid just so it can be a complete free for all. Honda has the $$$ to do the same (or worse), and there's many, many ways to win a championship. Ducati takes what many would consider an unconventional approach (both in their tactics and engineering) but the end goal is to win the championship, just like Honda, just like Yamaha, and just like Suz...oh nevermind. If we didn't have the level of access to the riders and behind the scenes during the racers we do now, we likely wouldn't know any of the inner workings and any team orders would simply be left to speculation. Go Pecco! Pags On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:13 AM Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com> wrote: > I'll third that. It HAS been an exciting season. Only thing is, while I > love that there are so many Ducatis in the field, I wish there were more > from the other manufacturers...two more from Honda and Yamaha at the > least. (was a big F1 fan for many, many, years but their suckitude these > last several years kept me from watching). > > Mario > ------------------------------ > *From:* Peer Landa <peerlanda@gmail.com> on behalf of Peer Landa < > peer@ccrma.stanford.edu> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2022 2:46 AM > *To:* ducati@list.ducati.net <ducati@list.ducati.net> > *Subject:* [Ducati] Re: Phillip Island, SPOILER..... > > > > Mike Snoderly wrote: > > I think I’d rather see Pecco win at Sepang and then have everybody > racing full out with no team orders or worries about points on the last > race. > > Yep, I'll second that -- absolutely. But in any case, it has been a good > & exciting season all-in-all, (while, of course, Formula-1 sucks anus also > this year). > > -- peer > > > > . > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ductalk.com%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C83e53ea80fb241cc839108dab1a60d32%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638017623986135642%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=Pz07RqAOx8n3CY5%2BBWUMFx0GEdMg7hblQFKsLAwXQvY%3D&amp;reserved=0 > and > > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fducnet&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C83e53ea80fb241cc839108dab1a60d32%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638017623986292245%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=61tYowgHaoi2xgvVDZuV9MHRwYQD6jfS3ztBX2BgLDY%3D&amp;reserved=0 > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s >

Well, I might be in the other end of the spectrum, even than others here perhaps. I felt disappointed when Benzechi didn't even try to make move for the win. Luca Marini dutifully in tow. I can understand Miller to give way to Bagnaia eventually, as they're in the same garage. Everyone else should be in theory fair game, no matter what machine. Just because you out money I the game doesn't mean you should change the sport. This is not a Tour the France where big national teams get behind a Peloton leader. I don't want to see a row of 8 Ducatis trading spots to save tires then picking up the winner. I don't remember Honda ever expecting that, say with Sito Pons. On Wed, Oct 19, 2022, 08:51 Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > I might be in the minority here, but I think "team orders" has been > completely blown out of proportion. Racing is a business (sadly, really > fucking sadly), and Ducati doesn't put 8 bikes on the grid just so it can > be a complete free for all. Honda has the $$$ to do the same (or worse), > and there's many, many ways to win a championship. Ducati takes what many > would consider an unconventional approach (both in their tactics and > engineering) but the end goal is to win the championship, just like Honda, > just like Yamaha, and just like Suz...oh nevermind. > > If we didn't have the level of access to the riders and behind the scenes > during the racers we do now, we likely wouldn't know any of the inner > workings and any team orders would simply be left to speculation. > > Go Pecco! > Pags > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:13 AM Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> I'll third that. It HAS been an exciting season. Only thing is, while I >> love that there are so many Ducatis in the field, I wish there were more >> from the other manufacturers...two more from Honda and Yamaha at the >> least. (was a big F1 fan for many, many, years but their suckitude these >> last several years kept me from watching). >> >> Mario >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Peer Landa <peerlanda@gmail.com> on behalf of Peer Landa < >> peer@ccrma.stanford.edu> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2022 2:46 AM >> *To:* ducati@list.ducati.net <ducati@list.ducati.net> >> *Subject:* [Ducati] Re: Phillip Island, SPOILER..... >> >> >> >> Mike Snoderly wrote: >> > I think I’d rather see Pecco win at Sepang and then have everybody >> racing full out with no team orders or worries about points on the last >> race. >> >> Yep, I'll second that -- absolutely. But in any case, it has been a good >> & exciting season all-in-all, (while, of course, Formula-1 sucks anus also >> this year). >> >> -- peer >> >> >> >> . >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> >> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ductalk.com%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C83e53ea80fb241cc839108dab1a60d32%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638017623986135642%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=Pz07RqAOx8n3CY5%2BBWUMFx0GEdMg7hblQFKsLAwXQvY%3D&amp;reserved=0 >> and >> >> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fducnet&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C83e53ea80fb241cc839108dab1a60d32%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638017623986292245%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=61tYowgHaoi2xgvVDZuV9MHRwYQD6jfS3ztBX2BgLDY%3D&amp;reserved=0 >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >> Mailto: %(user_address)s >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >> Mailto: %(user_address)s >> > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s