I agree. Besides, even with a shortened season, and after missing 2 or 3 races, he could come back and win the championship. I think they should have MM start every race from no closer to pole than 4th row, so we get to see him slice and dice through the pack, and there's still an outside chance someone else could win the race. On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 15:18, Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > LOL. I'm no fan of Marquez (because just saying it annoys Lan), but he'll > be missed. I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell he's racing > this weekend even though there's no nerve damage. Honda has indicated > they're in no rush. > > Pags > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 6:01 PM Kevin Kachadourian < > kkachadourian@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Pags, MM needs no defence. His presence on the podium this weekend will > do > > all his talking for him. Pins in the bone, brace on the wrist, as many > > anti-inflammatories and painkillers as can be managed, and he's good to > go. > > Correction: I just saw the photograph of MM with his arm wrapped and > > braced. I am downgrading my prediction to only a 65% chance of competing > > this weekend and a 70% chance of being on the podium if he does. > > > > Oh, wait. I almost forgot. > > > > I'm not a fan of Marquez (and that's the absolutely last time for this > > joke,... probably) > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >

You are correct, Pagsy. Although, it seems to be a different situation this time. He “finally” broke a critical part of his body that’s quite vital to the sport. IIRC, he’s never broken anything before? Rossi changed when he broke his leg at age 30. Anyway, MM93 is a different breed. He’s also in so much more under pressure now due to the nasty injury, shortened calendar, AND there’s that ‘new’ guy who smells blood. Not to exclude his closest rival Dovizioso. He will fight hard as it’s his only chance!!!! He’s got 4 top rivals now: Top Gun, El Diablo, DesmoDovi AND himself! Unfortunately, Rins is also injured.. This is definitely getting more interesting now especially that he’s considering racing this weeks for damage limitation. I hope he doesn’t crash again! Still rooting for VR! On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 5:42 PM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > Duuuuuuudeeee....the guy was nearly blinded in Moto2, has had multiple > shoulder operations, has crashed at 150MPH plus, walked away and set pole 5 > minutes later, and you question his toughness? > > Sheesh, look at me defending MM! > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 5:02 PM Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > > El diablo will not have a choice, but to fight. Can he fight as good as > > MM93? Well, he did try last year, but he wasn't on the same level. We’ll > > see how fast he learns this year. Another way is for him to completely > > avoid fighting and just haul ass like Lorenzo and Stoner used to do. > > I think Lorenzo/Stoner got very upset when someone like Rossi/MM93 > roughed > > ‘em up. They both all of a sudden became vegans. > > > > Anyway, I’m a little disappointed now because we might not see a full > > Marquez vs Fabio Duel. > > But then, we’ll see how tough Marquez really is. This is his real > > challenge; To defeat them all while not 100% fit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:50 AM Kevin Kachadourian < > > kkachadourian@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > In the end, I think we are all correct. MM is an amazing rider. Even if > > > there are riders who can go as fast as he does (FQ?), there is no one > who > > > can successfully ride the ragged edge of a motoGP bike like he does. > > > Sunday, the bike went over that ragged edge twice. The first time Marc > > made > > > another phenomenal save (I will never tire of watching his saves); the > > > second time he could not. Fabio won the race by being fast and never > > having > > > to go to that edge. If Marc had caught up with FQ, either FQ would have > > > needed to push harder and take bigger chances, or MM would have passed > > him > > > like everyone else. Does Rabio have that in him? > > > I look forward to that race, hopefully soon. > > > > > > On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 07:05, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > KK is on a different level, but I do see his point. Gotta finish the > > race > > > > to win, even if everyone crashes, so long as the rider finishes first > > as > > > a > > > > back marker, he/she is absolutely amazing! That’s a Jaw dropping > > > > performance and A real champ in the eyes of KK. That’s what impresses > > > him. > > > > > > > > I also agree with Pagsy’s comment below. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:52 AM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > There's no indication he trashed his tires. He got exuberant with > > the > > > > > throttle. He was running the ENTIRE field down, outpacing even > Dovi > > by > > > > > about 1s per lap. His pace was fierce, and indeed he was riding > on a > > > > > higher level than the rest of the field. Not saying his race > > strategy > > > > was > > > > > the best (obviously), but if you can't respect that performance, > fan > > or > > > > > not, you simply confuse me. > > > > > > > > > > Pags > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:24 AM Kevin Kachadourian < > > > > > kkachadourian@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > How is trashing your tires, so they spit you into the gravel, > > riding > > > > on a > > > > > > higher level? Managing tires is part of the skill set necessary > to > > > be a > > > > > > winner. Remember when fuel management used to be part of the > > > equation? > > > > > > > > > > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #

Agreed about MM not crashing this weekend. That would suck totally. The problem is, when MM smells blood, in the heat of the competition, can he restrain himself. Maybe he's just half a second behind Fabio, and if he pushes just a little harder,.... I would much rather see racing than crashing. Kevin On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 14:55, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > You are correct, Pagsy. Although, it seems to be a different situation this > time. He “finally” broke a critical part of his body that’s quite vital to > the sport. IIRC, he’s never broken anything before? Rossi changed when he > broke his leg at age 30. Anyway, MM93 is a different breed. > > He’s also in so much more under pressure now due to the nasty injury, > shortened calendar, AND there’s that ‘new’ guy who smells blood. Not to > exclude his closest rival Dovizioso. He will fight hard as it’s his only > chance!!!! > He’s got 4 top rivals now: Top Gun, El Diablo, DesmoDovi AND himself! > Unfortunately, Rins is also injured.. > > This is definitely getting more interesting now especially that he’s > considering racing this weeks for damage limitation. I hope he doesn’t > crash again! > > Still rooting for VR! > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 5:42 PM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Duuuuuuudeeee....the guy was nearly blinded in Moto2, has had multiple > > shoulder operations, has crashed at 150MPH plus, walked away and set > pole 5 > > minutes later, and you question his toughness? > > > > Sheesh, look at me defending MM! > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 5:02 PM Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > El diablo will not have a choice, but to fight. Can he fight as good as > > > MM93? Well, he did try last year, but he wasn't on the same level. > We’ll > > > see how fast he learns this year. Another way is for him to completely > > > avoid fighting and just haul ass like Lorenzo and Stoner used to do. > > > I think Lorenzo/Stoner got very upset when someone like Rossi/MM93 > > roughed > > > ‘em up. They both all of a sudden became vegans. > > > > > > Anyway, I’m a little disappointed now because we might not see a full > > > Marquez vs Fabio Duel. > > > But then, we’ll see how tough Marquez really is. This is his real > > > challenge; To defeat them all while not 100% fit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:50 AM Kevin Kachadourian < > > > kkachadourian@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > In the end, I think we are all correct. MM is an amazing rider. Even > if > > > > there are riders who can go as fast as he does (FQ?), there is no one > > who > > > > can successfully ride the ragged edge of a motoGP bike like he does. > > > > Sunday, the bike went over that ragged edge twice. The first time > Marc > > > made > > > > another phenomenal save (I will never tire of watching his saves); > the > > > > second time he could not. Fabio won the race by being fast and never > > > having > > > > to go to that edge. If Marc had caught up with FQ, either FQ would > have > > > > needed to push harder and take bigger chances, or MM would have > passed > > > him > > > > like everyone else. Does Rabio have that in him? > > > > I look forward to that race, hopefully soon. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 07:05, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > KK is on a different level, but I do see his point. Gotta finish > the > > > race > > > > > to win, even if everyone crashes, so long as the rider finishes > first > > > as > > > > a > > > > > back marker, he/she is absolutely amazing! That’s a Jaw dropping > > > > > performance and A real champ in the eyes of KK. That’s what > impresses > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > > I also agree with Pagsy’s comment below. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:52 AM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > There's no indication he trashed his tires. He got exuberant > with > > > the > > > > > > throttle. He was running the ENTIRE field down, outpacing even > > Dovi > > > by > > > > > > about 1s per lap. His pace was fierce, and indeed he was riding > > on a > > > > > > higher level than the rest of the field. Not saying his race > > > strategy > > > > > was > > > > > > the best (obviously), but if you can't respect that performance, > > fan > > > or > > > > > > not, you simply confuse me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pags > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:24 AM Kevin Kachadourian < > > > > > > kkachadourian@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > How is trashing your tires, so they spit you into the gravel, > > > riding > > > > > on a > > > > > > > higher level? Managing tires is part of the skill set necessary > > to > > > > be a > > > > > > > winner. Remember when fuel management used to be part of the > > > > equation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >

I don’t know what got into his head last Sunday. He’s too experienced to not know better. Rider error rather than bike issues me think..He’s still half human after-all I think he’ll restrain himself and would be happy to take some valuable points this coming Sunday. That’s IF he can even ride with a humerus fracture! How can he even move that arm?!! They better jam his bones with a ton of JB Weld. On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 6:29 PM Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > Agreed about MM not crashing this weekend. That would suck totally. The > problem is, when MM smells blood, in the heat of the competition, can he > restrain himself. Maybe he's just half a second behind Fabio, and if he > pushes just a little harder,.... > I would much rather see racing than crashing. > Kevin > > On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 14:55, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > > You are correct, Pagsy. Although, it seems to be a different situation > this > > time. He “finally” broke a critical part of his body that’s quite vital > to > > the sport. IIRC, he’s never broken anything before? Rossi changed when he > > broke his leg at age 30. Anyway, MM93 is a different breed. > > > > He’s also in so much more under pressure now due to the nasty injury, > > shortened calendar, AND there’s that ‘new’ guy who smells blood. Not to > > exclude his closest rival Dovizioso. He will fight hard as it’s his only > > chance!!!! > > He’s got 4 top rivals now: Top Gun, El Diablo, DesmoDovi AND himself! > > Unfortunately, Rins is also injured.. > > > > This is definitely getting more interesting now especially that he’s > > considering racing this weeks for damage limitation. I hope he doesn’t > > crash again! > > > > Still rooting for VR! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 5:42 PM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Duuuuuuudeeee....the guy was nearly blinded in Moto2, has had multiple > > > shoulder operations, has crashed at 150MPH plus, walked away and set > > pole 5 > > > minutes later, and you question his toughness? > > > > > > Sheesh, look at me defending MM! > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 5:02 PM Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > El diablo will not have a choice, but to fight. Can he fight as good > as > > > > MM93? Well, he did try last year, but he wasn't on the same level. > > We’ll > > > > see how fast he learns this year. Another way is for him to > completely > > > > avoid fighting and just haul ass like Lorenzo and Stoner used to do. > > > > I think Lorenzo/Stoner got very upset when someone like Rossi/MM93 > > > roughed > > > > ‘em up. They both all of a sudden became vegans. > > > > > > > > Anyway, I’m a little disappointed now because we might not see a full > > > > Marquez vs Fabio Duel. > > > > But then, we’ll see how tough Marquez really is. This is his real > > > > challenge; To defeat them all while not 100% fit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:50 AM Kevin Kachadourian < > > > > kkachadourian@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > In the end, I think we are all correct. MM is an amazing rider. > Even > > if > > > > > there are riders who can go as fast as he does (FQ?), there is no > one > > > who > > > > > can successfully ride the ragged edge of a motoGP bike like he > does. > > > > > Sunday, the bike went over that ragged edge twice. The first time > > Marc > > > > made > > > > > another phenomenal save (I will never tire of watching his saves); > > the > > > > > second time he could not. Fabio won the race by being fast and > never > > > > having > > > > > to go to that edge. If Marc had caught up with FQ, either FQ would > > have > > > > > needed to push harder and take bigger chances, or MM would have > > passed > > > > him > > > > > like everyone else. Does Rabio have that in him? > > > > > I look forward to that race, hopefully soon. > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 07:05, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > KK is on a different level, but I do see his point. Gotta finish > > the > > > > race > > > > > > to win, even if everyone crashes, so long as the rider finishes > > first > > > > as > > > > > a > > > > > > back marker, he/she is absolutely amazing! That’s a Jaw dropping > > > > > > performance and A real champ in the eyes of KK. That’s what > > impresses > > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > > > > I also agree with Pagsy’s comment below. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:52 AM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's no indication he trashed his tires. He got exuberant > > with > > > > the > > > > > > > throttle. He was running the ENTIRE field down, outpacing even > > > Dovi > > > > by > > > > > > > about 1s per lap. His pace was fierce, and indeed he was > riding > > > on a > > > > > > > higher level than the rest of the field. Not saying his race > > > > strategy > > > > > > was > > > > > > > the best (obviously), but if you can't respect that > performance, > > > fan > > > > or > > > > > > > not, you simply confuse me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pags > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:24 AM Kevin Kachadourian < > > > > > > > kkachadourian@gmail.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How is trashing your tires, so they spit you into the gravel, > > > > riding > > > > > > on a > > > > > > > > higher level? Managing tires is part of the skill set > necessary > > > to > > > > > be a > > > > > > > > winner. Remember when fuel management used to be part of the > > > > > equation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > and > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > _____________________ > > Ducati mailing list > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #