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James McKane

Sun, Jul 9, 2023 12:52 PM

Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland August 1827
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalAug1827.html

Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland July 1828
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalJul1828.html

Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland March 1827
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalMar1827.html

Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland March 1830
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalMar1830.html

Thanks again to Len Swindley for four more great additions to CTI!

Jim McKane
Kitchener, Ontario

Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland August 1827 <https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalAug1827.html> Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland July 1828 <https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalJul1828.html> Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland March 1827 <https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalMar1827.html> Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland March 1830 <https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalMar1830.html> Thanks again to Len Swindley for four more great additions to CTI! Jim McKane Kitchener, Ontario

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dm60@mweb.co.za

Sun, Jul 9, 2023 1:57 PM

Thanks Jim and Len

* For stealing a purse containing one [gold] sovereign and two promissory notes , Margaret Kerr got “only six months” 
* For operating illicit distilleries, many many distillers got 3, 4 months, or 6 months 
* But James Henry, "for murder", was to be imprisoned [for just] one week ......

Does this mean the life of the murdered deceased (whose name wasn't recorded) wasn't worth much more than "a-bob-a-job" ..... ? While dodging the taxes and excise duties due on whiskey production was the biggest crime of all ... ?

Just asking mischievously on a Sunday afternoon!

Take care, guys

Warm regards

Dave Mitchell

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[ https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalAug1827.html | Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland August 1827 ]
[ https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalJul1828.html | Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland July 1828 ]

[ https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalMar1827.html | Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland March 1827 ]

[ https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalMar1830.html | Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland March 1830 ]

Thanks again to Len Swindley for four more great additions to CTI!

Jim McKane
Kitchener, Ontario

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Thanks Jim and Len * For stealing a purse containing one [gold] sovereign and two promissory notes , Margaret Kerr got “only six months” * For operating illicit distilleries, many many distillers got 3, 4 months, or 6 months * But James Henry, "for murder", was to be imprisoned [for just] one week ...... Does this mean the life of the murdered deceased (whose name wasn't recorded) wasn't worth much more than "a-bob-a-job" ..... ? While dodging the taxes and excise duties due on whiskey production was the biggest crime of all ... ? Just asking mischievously on a Sunday afternoon! Take care, guys Warm regards Dave Mitchell From: "James McKane via CoTyroneList" <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> To: "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Cc: "James McKane" <jamckane@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 9 July, 2023 14:52:59 Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] New Content - Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland [ https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalAug1827.html | Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland August 1827 ] [ https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalJul1828.html | Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland July 1828 ] [ https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalMar1827.html | Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland March 1827 ] [ https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalMar1830.html | Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland March 1830 ] Thanks again to Len Swindley for four more great additions to CTI! Jim McKane Kitchener, Ontario ================================= Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com List Archive - https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com Join the list by sending an email to - cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com To receive the Digest version, send an email to - cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to - cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com =================================

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Len Swindley

Mon, Jul 10, 2023 1:16 PM

Yes, Dave,
That's how it seems as I trawl through newspapers searching for reports from the courts and "acts of outrage" (as they were commonly termed). And horse stealing brought a mandatory sentence of death. I have found reports where rapes brought the perpetrators a paltry sentence of just four weeks (with hard labour). And the theft of a few potatoes, a handkerchief or a loaf of bread saw all those charged sentenced to transportation to the Australian colonies for periods of seven or fourteen years.

I am descended from an 18 y.o. convict found guilty of housebreaking in Liverpool, England in 1836 and the theft of household items and clothing valued at fifty pounds, for which he received a life sentence. It was the making of him and I can claim decent from Australian "royalty"!

There is great value in newspaper reports of court proceedings for Australian descendants of Irish convicts as all official court records were destroyed in the destruction of the old PRO, Dublin in 1922.

Yes, all good fun,
Len

From: dm60--- via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
Sent: Sunday, 9 July 2023 11:57 PM
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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: New Content - Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland

Thanks Jim and Len

For stealing a purse containing one [gold] sovereign and two promissory notes, Margaret Kerr got “only six months”
For operating illicit distilleries, many many distillers got 3, 4 months, or 6 months
But James Henry, "for murder", was to be imprisoned [for just] one week ......

Does this mean the life of the murdered deceased (whose name wasn't recorded) wasn't worth much more than "a-bob-a-job" ..... ? While dodging the taxes and excise duties due on whiskey production was the biggest crime of all ... ?

Just asking mischievously on a Sunday afternoon!

Take care, guys

Warm regards

Dave Mitchell

From: "James McKane via CoTyroneList" cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
To: "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
Cc: "James McKane" jamckane@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 9 July, 2023 14:52:59
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] New Content - Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland

Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland August 1827https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalAug1827.html
Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland July 1828https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalJul1828.html

Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland March 1827https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalMar1827.html

Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland March 1830https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalMar1830.html

Thanks again to Len Swindley for four more great additions to CTI!

Jim McKane
Kitchener, Ontario

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Yes, Dave, That's how it seems as I trawl through newspapers searching for reports from the courts and "acts of outrage" (as they were commonly termed). And horse stealing brought a mandatory sentence of death. I have found reports where rapes brought the perpetrators a paltry sentence of just four weeks (with hard labour). And the theft of a few potatoes, a handkerchief or a loaf of bread saw all those charged sentenced to transportation to the Australian colonies for periods of seven or fourteen years. I am descended from an 18 y.o. convict found guilty of housebreaking in Liverpool, England in 1836 and the theft of household items and clothing valued at fifty pounds, for which he received a life sentence. It was the making of him and I can claim decent from Australian "royalty"! There is great value in newspaper reports of court proceedings for Australian descendants of Irish convicts as all official court records were destroyed in the destruction of the old PRO, Dublin in 1922. Yes, all good fun, Len ________________________________ From: dm60--- via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Sent: Sunday, 9 July 2023 11:57 PM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Cc: dm60@mweb.co.za <dm60@mweb.co.za> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: New Content - Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland Thanks Jim and Len * For stealing a purse containing one [gold] sovereign and two promissory notes, Margaret Kerr got “only six months” * For operating illicit distilleries, many many distillers got 3, 4 months, or 6 months * But James Henry, "for murder", was to be imprisoned [for just] one week ...... Does this mean the life of the murdered deceased (whose name wasn't recorded) wasn't worth much more than "a-bob-a-job" ..... ? While dodging the taxes and excise duties due on whiskey production was the biggest crime of all ... ? Just asking mischievously on a Sunday afternoon! Take care, guys Warm regards Dave Mitchell ________________________________ From: "James McKane via CoTyroneList" <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> To: "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Cc: "James McKane" <jamckane@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 9 July, 2023 14:52:59 Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] New Content - Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland August 1827<https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalAug1827.html> Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland July 1828<https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalJul1828.html> Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland March 1827<https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalMar1827.html> Donegal Assizes, Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland March 1830<https://www.cotyroneireland.com/criminals/donegalMar1830.html> Thanks again to Len Swindley for four more great additions to CTI! Jim McKane Kitchener, Ontario ================================= Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com List Archive - https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com Join the list by sending an email to - cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com To receive the Digest version, send an email to - cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to - cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com =================================