Thanks for your very kind comments, Valerie and am pleased to assist your research. BTW, I have no connection to either Carnone church or Donaghmore parish. And thanks for the information re. your forebears in Nebraska. Carnone Presbyterian church was a Secession congregation and according to the Ordnance Survey Memoirs (1836) drew its members from Donaghmore, Convoy, Raphoe, Urney and Clonleigh parishes. Writing in The Laggan and Its Presbyterianism – Lecky (Belfast,1905) www.cotyroneireland.com/estore/index.php?maincat_id=6<http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estore/index.php?maincat_id=6> Rev. Lecky recalls “Carnone is a much smaller congregation than it was at one time, largely owing to the fact that in our fathers’ day Seceders thought little of a long Sabbath day’s journey in order to attend the ministrations of the Church of their affections, often passing the doors of one or more Synod of Ulster [meeting] houses on their way. Until recent years several families living in Raphoe and far beyond it, were members of Carnone. In the year 1840 there were 280 families connected with it.” Presbyterians had been emigrating in large numbers to the American colonies from this part of the north of Ireland since c1720 and it would be almost certain there would have been family and neighbours already resident in the U.S. (the land of milk and honey where opportunity abounded). Continued success with your research, Len Swindley ________________________________ From: Beverley Ballantine <beverley.ballantine@icloud.com> Sent: Saturday, 18 June 2022 7:30 AM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Cc: Len Swindley <len_swindley@hotmail.com>; Valerie Stewart <valeries4kids@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Inquiry: about records from 1840s at Carnone Presbyterian Church Hello Valerie - YES, all hail to the weavers, farmers, saddlers, stonecutters, mothers, milkmaids and babies of Ireland - the ancestors. My late husband's forebear ended up the richest man in a western Kentucky county - LOL Sent from my iPad On Jun 17, 2022, at 4:50 PM, Valerie Stewart via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:  Hello Len Swindley! You are quite amazing - doing all this work from Melbourne. I have seen your transcriptions for months now, with the help of some other Genealogy folks here in the States who led me to Cotyroneireleand.com. Elywn has been most generous, providing additional information about the local area also. Thank you Len for your additional information. I actually have a transcription of Henry Jrs' March 1840 baptism record which lists it in Raphoe parish which might explain why it isn't with the other children's records (I think William died as a child). I will look for the Stevenson records, the ones that I had located didn't have a Barbara named at all. When my family and I visit in September, I will know far more about this group of ancestors than most, except our grandparents. Although Henry Sr may have been a labourer and his father Hugh a weaver, their son and grandson, created a town in Nebraska (with their name) that has fostered a strong community since 1890. In case you might be interested, I am attaching the 2 pages of the town Centennial book that was the information I had to start with, sorry it's not a better copy. Many, Many thanks for all your assistance! best regards, Valerie Valerie Stewart Fremont, California USA On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 5:02 AM Len Swindley <len_swindley@hotmail.com<mailto:len_swindley@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hello Valerie and Elwyn, As Elwyn has stated, it can be difficult locating the residences of weavers and labourers; in most instances they resided in humble cottages erected on farms where they were employed. You are most fortunate that the marriage announcement from the Londonderry Sentinel has survived. (see attachment) The following entries were extracted from the Carnone Church records: Carnone Presbyterian Church, Donaghmore Parish, Register of Baptisms Jan 8 1837: William son of Henry Allen & Barbara Feb 14 1844: Susan dau of Henry Allen & Barbara Sep 4 1846: Sarah dau of Henry Allen & Barbara No record of a baptism of Henry James You may have greater success in finding data on the Stevensons who were numerous in Donaghmore parish and about Carnone. It is necessary to gather some knowledge of townlands within Donaghmore – see www.cotyroneireland.com/maps/donaghmore.html<http://www.cotyroneireland.com/maps/donaghmore.html> You will note that it borders Raphoe parish where there were several Allen families Have you referred to my numerous files relevant to Carnone? Stevenson Births and Marriages , Donaghmore Parish, Co. Donegal www.cotyroneireland.com/surnames/stevenson6.html<http://www.cotyroneireland.com/surnames/stevenson6.html> Carnone files www.cotyroneireland.com/marriages/carnone.html<http://www.cotyroneireland.com/marriages/carnone.html> www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/carnonepresbyterian.html<http://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/carnonepresbyterian.html> www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/carnone.html<http://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/carnone.html> www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/convoy2.html<http://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/convoy2.html> Donaghmore Tithe Applotment Book 1826 www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/donaghmore1826.html<http://www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/donaghmore1826.html> Carnone Presbyterian Church is still an active congregation of some sixty families and is a three point charge with Donaghmore and Convoy (see photos of the church and halls in www.cotyroneireland.com/surnames/stevenson6.html<http://www.cotyroneireland.com/surnames/stevenson6.html> Hope this assists your research, Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia ________________________________ From: Elwyn Soutter via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com>> Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2022 10:04 PM To: cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com>> Cc: Valerie Stewart <valeries4kids@gmail.com<mailto:valeries4kids@gmail.com>>; Elwyn Soutter <elwynsoutter@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:elwynsoutter@yahoo.co.uk>> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Inquiry: about records from 1840s at Carnone Presbyterian Church Valerie, The website for the Presbyterian Church in Ireland says the current Minister of Carnone is the Rev C. McCibbin and that services are at 9.45 on Sundays. cmckibbin@presbyterianireland.org<mailto:cmckibbin@presbyterianireland.org> Map here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/54°50'20.0%22N+7°37'31.3%22W/@54.83888,-7.62536,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xe6c7936be93b6d22!8m2!3d54.83888!4d-7.62536 On the Carnowen Rd between Castlefinn & Convoy. According to the PRONI guide to church records, early records for that church are as follows: Baptisms, 1834-1984; marriages, 1846-1916. Henry Allen’s second marriage shows that at that date he was living in Carnone (Carnowen) townland. His father Hugh was a weaver. Irish Genealogy<https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1850/09398/5404499.pdf> <https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1850/09398/5404499.pdf> Irish Genealogy This Irish Government supported, official web site, is dedicated to helping you in your search for records of fa... Labourers and weavers can be particularly difficult to trace as they often moved about to follow available work and also sometimes their homes were of too low a value to be noted in Griffiths. There are no Allen households listed in Carnone in Griffiths in 1858. Indeed there were no Hugh Allens anywhere in Donegal that year. Elwyn On Saturday, 11 June 2022, 21:25:04 BST, Valerie Stewart via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com<mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com>> wrote: Hello All, Thanks for adding me to the mailing list! I am Valerie Stewart from California, USA I am a descendant of Henry Allen and Barbara Stevenson, folks from Raphoe Parish, County Donegal, according to the records we've seen. I plan to visit County Donegal in September with my family and I am trying to determine where exactly my great-great parents lived. I have some church records for Henry Allen (born approx. 1814) that record his first marriage - April 16, 1838 to Barbara Stevenson, by the Rev. John P. Dickey at the Carnone, Presbyterain Church. Their 4 children were baptized there also - from 1840 - 1846. (William, Henry James, Susan and Sarah). Apparently Barbara died and in November 1850 Henry married Catherine Flood - same church/parish location. After that they left for the United States. Henry James Allen was my great- great grandfather who eventually settled in Nebraska. Is the Carnone Presbyterain Church still active? I would like to be able to find it. The changing of names of locations since that time - early-mid 1800s- is proving confusing for me, at least in finding what the current place names are. If you could point me to some local resource/person, I should be glad of the help. Many Thanks! 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