I actually heard him say it in post race interview watching on BEIN. - Gene "I Know a Few Roads" Patriot Guard Rider AMA Charter Life Member #598925 VMC, Charter Member #166, 2018/2019 V2V Chairman, MA RR#1 DUCATI.net Member USDESMO Member #1263 EX-MSF Instructor EX-President Mid Atlantic Ducati Owners Club Victory's - 01' V92SC, 04' Kingpin, 16' XC Tour Ducati's - 02' M900, 13' Diavel HD - 09' XR1200 ________________________________ From: Ducati <ducati-bounces@list.ducati.net> on behalf of Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 10:33 PM To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> Subject: Re: [Ducati] MotoGP today (spoiler) MotoGP.com and Autosport. Not exactly fake news. https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2019/08/10/marquez-brushes-off-dovizioso-mind-games/304319 https://www.autosport.com/motogp/news/145362/marquez-nobody-will-remember-my-austria-defeat Vicki > On Aug 12, 2019, at 10:21 PM, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > Never heard of this interview that you speak of..When was this? It’s > unlikely of Marquez to say such remark. He’s always been humble... > Was it from a Spanish or Italian TV? They’re fake news. They like to make > shit up. > > Were there any verbal sparring during the Thursday press conf? (I haven’t > watched it yet) > > > >> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 7:43 PM Vicki Smith <veloce916@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I don’t disagree but he’s whining this time. He gave an interview and said >> “you think anybody will remember who won this race when I am champion?” He >> had been verbally sparring with Dovi all week and weekend. He said Dovi >> can’t get in my head. So I guess that wasn’t true. >> Vicki >> >>> On Aug 12, 2019, at 6:32 PM, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> You really think MM93 needs an excuse? >>> >>> He’s a 7x Champ, 5 of which is in the premier class and won in his first >>> year! Dominated MotoGp since 2013, even in 2015 he was still 3rd. MM93 >>> pretty much bagged the 2019 season. I don’t think Dovi will ever win, >>> unless MM93 misses several Sundays. >>> >>> As for the race: >>> >>> Skip the race between the first 5 and last 5 laps. Snoozer in between. >>> >>> Same ol story; Ducati winning in Austria (Ducati track) yet again. Quite >>> predictable to be honest.. What made the race exciting was Marquez trying >>> to stop the Ducati from repeating history. I was more focused on VR >> getting >>> a podium, but denied by El Diablo on a customer bike! >>> >>> I’ve never heard Marquez moan and complain about anything even when he >>> doesn’t win. He’s pretty straight as an arrow. Dovi on the other hand >> has >>> become a moaner even when he wins. >>> >>> And for Dovi’s last corner ‘move’ that everyone seems to be so >> electrified >>> about, I guess that’s something special for Dovi. I mean Lorenzo on the >>> Ducati won on the same corner.. I mean it was pretty good, but really >>> nothing to rave about. >>> Compare to how Marquez wins races or even how he saves crashes is 10 fold >>> more jaw dropping. If y’all really want to watch some spectacular draw >>> dropping races, I’d suggest to rewind to 2005 Jerez, 2009 Catalunya, 2008 >>> Laguna Seca to name a few... >>> >>> There was contact by the way at the last corner: Marquez’s brake lever >>> guard got caught somewhere on Dovi’s leather or bike, which almost caused >>> Marquez to crash. See attachment.. Marquez just brushed it off and says >>> it’s racing and that’s how he likes it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 12:37 PM Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Felt like excuses to me. Plus, in my mind when he said “I am Marc so I >>>> must try” I knew a pile of excuses were coming. >>>> It came down to one corner and no one watching, not the crowd, either >>>> team or either rider really knew what way it would go. Even Dovi said he >>>> didn’t know if it would work. Until it did. >>>> Great race. Great champions both. >>>> Vicki >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>> and >>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>> _____________________ >>> Ducati mailing list >>> Ducati@list.ducati.net >>> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >>> Mailto: veloce916@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com >> > -- > sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: vicki@ducati.net To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: http://www.ductalk.com/ and https://www.facebook.com/ducnet _____________________ Ducati mailing list Ducati@list.ducati.net http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net Mailto: twolanefun@outlook.com

The report on MotoGp.com is more believable than AutoSport. It sounds more like Marquez, (straight as an arrow, no BS) and he’s been saying the same thing for quite a while now. His goal is to win the championship, by wins or by collecting as much points as possible. Mind games don’t work on him. We’ve all witnessed that already between him and VR. Also, I’d like to know if the interview was in Spanish or in English. Converting another language to English can sometimes be conveyed in another manner, especially while speaking. It’s a fact. We can all see this during press conferences. The riders try so hard to convey something in English, but it’s never the same when they transmit it in their native tongue. We just put it all together in our own understanding, like a puzzle. So, when Marquez speaks, he translates everything in his head from Spanish to English, which then can be misunderstood by people. I know this from experience. I speak 3 different languages and a dialect. But this is just my speculation. Last but not least, let’s not forget that journalists always like to twist words to make their columns more interesting. ;-) On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 5:11 AM Gene Hunt <Twolanefun@outlook.com> wrote: > I actually heard him say it in post race interview watching on BEIN. - Gene > > > "I Know a Few Roads" > Patriot Guard Rider > AMA Charter Life Member #598925 > VMC, Charter Member #166, 2018/2019 V2V Chairman, MA RR#1 > DUCATI.net Member > USDESMO Member #1263 > EX-MSF Instructor > EX-President Mid Atlantic Ducati Owners Club > > Victory's - 01' V92SC, 04' Kingpin, 16' XC Tour > Ducati's - 02' M900, 13' Diavel > HD - 09' XR1200 > > > ________________________________ > From: Ducati <ducati-bounces@list.ducati.net> on behalf of Vicki Smith < > vicki@ducati.net> > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 10:33 PM > To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > Subject: Re: [Ducati] MotoGP today (spoiler) > > MotoGP.com and Autosport. Not exactly fake news. > > > https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2019/08/10/marquez-brushes-off-dovizioso-mind-games/304319 > > > https://www.autosport.com/motogp/news/145362/marquez-nobody-will-remember-my-austria-defeat > > > Vicki > > > > > On Aug 12, 2019, at 10:21 PM, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Never heard of this interview that you speak of..When was this? It’s > > unlikely of Marquez to say such remark. He’s always been humble... > > Was it from a Spanish or Italian TV? They’re fake news. They like to make > > shit up. > > > > Were there any verbal sparring during the Thursday press conf? (I haven’t > > watched it yet) > > > > > > > >> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 7:43 PM Vicki Smith <veloce916@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> I don’t disagree but he’s whining this time. He gave an interview and > said > >> “you think anybody will remember who won this race when I am > champion?” He > >> had been verbally sparring with Dovi all week and weekend. He said Dovi > >> can’t get in my head. So I guess that wasn’t true. > >> Vicki > >> > >>> On Aug 12, 2019, at 6:32 PM, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> You really think MM93 needs an excuse? > >>> > >>> He’s a 7x Champ, 5 of which is in the premier class and won in his > first > >>> year! Dominated MotoGp since 2013, even in 2015 he was still 3rd. MM93 > >>> pretty much bagged the 2019 season. I don’t think Dovi will ever win, > >>> unless MM93 misses several Sundays. > >>> > >>> As for the race: > >>> > >>> Skip the race between the first 5 and last 5 laps. Snoozer in between. > >>> > >>> Same ol story; Ducati winning in Austria (Ducati track) yet again. > Quite > >>> predictable to be honest.. What made the race exciting was Marquez > trying > >>> to stop the Ducati from repeating history. I was more focused on VR > >> getting > >>> a podium, but denied by El Diablo on a customer bike! > >>> > >>> I’ve never heard Marquez moan and complain about anything even when he > >>> doesn’t win. He’s pretty straight as an arrow. Dovi on the other hand > >> has > >>> become a moaner even when he wins. > >>> > >>> And for Dovi’s last corner ‘move’ that everyone seems to be so > >> electrified > >>> about, I guess that’s something special for Dovi. I mean Lorenzo on the > >>> Ducati won on the same corner.. I mean it was pretty good, but really > >>> nothing to rave about. > >>> Compare to how Marquez wins races or even how he saves crashes is 10 > fold > >>> more jaw dropping. If y’all really want to watch some spectacular draw > >>> dropping races, I’d suggest to rewind to 2005 Jerez, 2009 Catalunya, > 2008 > >>> Laguna Seca to name a few... > >>> > >>> There was contact by the way at the last corner: Marquez’s brake lever > >>> guard got caught somewhere on Dovi’s leather or bike, which almost > caused > >>> Marquez to crash. See attachment.. Marquez just brushed it off and says > >>> it’s racing and that’s how he likes it. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 12:37 PM Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Felt like excuses to me. Plus, in my mind when he said “I am Marc so I > >>>> must try” I knew a pile of excuses were coming. > >>>> It came down to one corner and no one watching, not the crowd, either > >>>> team or either rider really knew what way it would go. Even Dovi said > he > >>>> didn’t know if it would work. Until it did. > >>>> Great race. Great champions both. > >>>> Vicki > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>> sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > >>> > >>> > > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #

Dear Mad Max, Journalists don't "always" twist words. I'd refer you to two of the best in our sport, Oxley and Emmett. Marc absolutely blamed his tire choice for coming in 2nd, but he does so, always with a smile so it's not construed as an excuse or whining. There was no confusion here between Spanish/English. The dude can ride, there's no doubt. And he'll win the championship barring anything crazy. But let's not make him more than the human being he is. Pags On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 12:55 PM Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > Last but not least, let’s not forget that journalists always like to > twist words to make their columns more interesting. ;-) > > >

His words were pretty straight forward. He said that he's learned in years past that if he wins a championship, people don't remember if he won a particular race or not. Paraphrased of course. But people have twisted around what he said to portray that he's dismissing this race result as nothing significant, in effect, dismissing Dovi's efforts and the win. That's not what he said or meant at all. I thought he took great pains to always credit Dovi's riding. The only thing I could possibly think to ding him on, and this is so really insignificant IMHO, is what Vicki alluded to, when he said "I'm Marc, so I must try" which I thought sounded a bit egotistical. But I mean, if you were 26 years old, 5 X MotoGP champion, I think you could be forgiven for that. Mario

Completely agree that he gave Dovi full credit for his ride. Pags On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 1:16 PM Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com> wrote: > His words were pretty straight forward. He said that he's learned in years > past that if he wins a championship, people don't remember if he won a > particular race or not. Paraphrased of course. But people have twisted > around what he said to portray that he's dismissing this race result as > nothing significant, in effect, dismissing Dovi's efforts and the win. > That's not what he said or meant at all. I thought he took great pains to > always credit Dovi's riding. The only thing I could possibly think to ding > him on, and this is so really insignificant IMHO, is what Vicki alluded to, > when he said "I'm Marc, so I must try" which I thought sounded a bit > egotistical. But I mean, if you were 26 years old, 5 X MotoGP champion, I > think you could be forgiven for that. > > Mario > > >

Oxley and Emmett? Fake news. I know because I am the greatest expert on journalism, maybe ever. I read them all the time, and know they are fake news. Believe me, I know fake news when I read it. Do you know a fake when you read it? Kevin On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 10:13, Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Mad Max, > > Journalists don't "always" twist words. I'd refer you to two of the best > in our sport, Oxley and Emmett. > > Marc absolutely blamed his tire choice for coming in 2nd, but he does so, > always with a smile so it's not construed as an excuse or whining. There > was no confusion here between Spanish/English. > > The dude can ride, there's no doubt. And he'll win the championship > barring anything crazy. But let's not make him more than the human being > he is. > > Pags > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 12:55 PM Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Last but not least, let’s not forget that journalists always like to > > twist words to make their columns more interesting. ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >

They do tremendous things. Things nobody has ever seen before. People tell me, tons of people, all the time, tell me how great they are. Pags On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 1:37 PM Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > Oxley and Emmett? > Fake news. I know because I am the greatest expert on journalism, maybe > ever. I read them all the time, and know they are fake news. Believe me, I > know fake news when I read it. > Do you know a fake when you read it? > Kevin > > >

Pags, You're the greatest (and I should know), at least as long as you agree with me. Kevin On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 10:52, Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > They do tremendous things. Things nobody has ever seen before. People > tell me, tons of people, all the time, tell me how great they are. > Pags > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 1:37 PM Kevin Kachadourian < > kkachadourian@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Oxley and Emmett? > > Fake news. I know because I am the greatest expert on journalism, maybe > > ever. I read them all the time, and know they are fake news. Believe me, > I > > know fake news when I read it. > > Do you know a fake when you read it? > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >

Kevin? He's a great guy. I hardly know him, but what I do know of him I can tell you is great. He does tremendous things. Great things that you've never even heard of. Great guy, and I should know because the things he does. Pags On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 2:22 PM Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > Pags, > You're the greatest (and I should know), at least as long as you agree with > me. > Kevin > > On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 10:52, Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > > They do tremendous things. Things nobody has ever seen before. People > > tell me, tons of people, all the time, tell me how great they are. > > Pags > > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 1:37 PM Kevin Kachadourian < > > kkachadourian@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Oxley and Emmett? > > > Fake news. I know because I am the greatest expert on journalism, maybe > > > ever. I read them all the time, and know they are fake news. Believe > me, > > I > > > know fake news when I read it. > > > Do you know a fake when you read it? > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > and > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > _____________________ > > Ducati mailing list > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: ajpags@gmail.com >

I hear ya! I do follow Emmett.. Anyhow, I was more bewildered regarding the catchy comment that supposedly Marquez had made towards Dovi. That is, “No one will remember who won this race (Austria) when I win the championship.” If MM93 indeed said it, then so be it. I guess he’s becoming a douche. It’s just hard to believe that he would say such things after all the years he’s appeared to be be ‘humble. Like Pagsy said, he’s just human after all.. below snippet from mario brother seems more valid than the media.. ‘His words were pretty straight forward. He said that he's learned in years past that if he wins a championship, people don't remember if he won a particular race or not. Paraphrased of course. But people have twisted around what he said to portray that he's dismissing this race result as nothing significant, in effect, dismissing Dovi's efforts and the win. That's not what he said or meant at all.’ On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 1:13 PM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Mad Max, > > Journalists don't "always" twist words. I'd refer you to two of the best > in our sport, Oxley and Emmett. > > Marc absolutely blamed his tire choice for coming in 2nd, but he does so, > always with a smile so it's not construed as an excuse or whining. There > was no confusion here between Spanish/English. > > The dude can ride, there's no doubt. And he'll win the championship > barring anything crazy. But let's not make him more than the human being > he is. > > Pags > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 12:55 PM Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Last but not least, let’s not forget that journalists always like to > > twist words to make their columns more interesting. ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #