Simcoe County, Ontario
I found the certificate on Ancestry and the head stone at Pine Hills
Cemetery, Scarbrough.
Is there anything else you need? Susan
On 2021-01-07 1:14 p.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
This one might be slightly more clear
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Actually Cookstown is smack in the middle of Simcoe County. I'm
struggling to read the marriageecord you sent. It is blurry. Let me
see if I can find iton Family search or Ancestry.
For interest sake, the areas of Tecumseth, West Gwillimbury, Essa and
Innisfil, Cookstown being at the intersection of all 4 townships, were
settled by many Irish folk in the early to mid 1800s. Hence the name
Innisfil. My surnames from Ulster include Wallace, Crawford, Black,
Latimer, Neely, Fagan, Culbert, Johnston to name a few.
Susan.
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That's not very close to Simcoe County??
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Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine Hills
Cemetery in Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada.
They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
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I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names?
Susan
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yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a
relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed
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Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late
19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ??
Jim
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This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I
understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with
knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were
the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I
have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada
(late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County.
He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in
C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if
Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was
an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an
ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his
marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as
Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back
in NI ... any comments on that?
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Well ... in a dream world ... the location of the farm and some info as to whatever became of their children would be wonderful, but I do not expect you to go to great lengths. You've been very helpful already!
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I found the certificate on Ancestry and the head stone at Pine Hills Cemetery, Scarbrough. Is there anything else you need? Susan
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This one might be slightly more clear
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Actually Cookstown is smack in the middle of Simcoe County. I'm struggling to read the marriageecord you sent. It is blurry. Let me see if I can find iton Family search or Ancestry. For interest sake, the areas of Tecumseth, West Gwillimbury, Essa and Innisfil, Cookstown being at the intersection of all 4 townships, were settled by many Irish folk in the early to mid 1800s. Hence the name Innisfil. My surnames from Ulster include Wallace, Crawford, Black, Latimer, Neely, Fagan, Culbert, Johnston to name a few. Susan.
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That's not very close to Simcoe County??
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Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine Hills Cemetery in Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada. They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
Thanks!
Rick Smoll PH: (512) 619-3860
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I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names? Susan
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yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
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Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ?? Jim
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This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
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The marriage certificate says they were married 7 Oct 1925 in Toronto
The Barrie Examiner 23 Apr 1931 p. 8 has "Congratulations to Mr. and
Mrs. Jos Morrison on the arrival of a son April 14, 1934" It is under
the heading Newton Robinson which is not far from Cookstown.
https://images.ourontario.ca/Partners/Barrie/be/1931_01/BaPL002755065pf_0237.pdf
Susan
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yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship
before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
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Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late
19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ??
Jim
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This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I
understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with
knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the
last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have
found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late
19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He
married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T.
who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe
County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area
that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic
community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage
certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of
England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any
comments on that?
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I will keep that in mind. I've spent lots of time on land records lately/
If you want to check yourself use www.onland.ca for the historical
books. You already know the township: Tecumseth. If you don't know the
lot and Concession number, you will go page by page. One thing, you can
skip to the entries before 1920.
Susan
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Well ... in a dream world ... the location of the farm and some info
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not expect you to go to great lengths. You've been very helpful already!
Thanks!
Rick Smoll
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I found the certificate on Ancestry and the head stone at Pine Hills
Cemetery, Scarbrough.
Is there anything else you need? Susan
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Actually Cookstown is smack in the middle of Simcoe County. I'm
struggling to read the marriageecord you sent. It is blurry. Let me
see if I can find iton Family search or Ancestry.
For interest sake, the areas of Tecumseth, West Gwillimbury, Essa and
Innisfil, Cookstown being at the intersection of all 4 townships, were
settled by many Irish folk in the early to mid 1800s. Hence the name
Innisfil. My surnames from Ulster include Wallace, Crawford, Black,
Latimer, Neely, Fagan, Culbert, Johnston to name a few.
Susan.
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That's not very close to Simcoe County??
Jim McKane
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Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine Hills
Cemetery in Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada.
They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
Thanks!
Rick Smoll
PH: (512) 619-3860
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I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names?
Susan
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I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a
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Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late
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Jim
Jim McKane
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList
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This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I
understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with
knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were
the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I
have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada
(late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County.
He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in
C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if
Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was
an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an
ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his
marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as
Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back
in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
Rick Smoll
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Thank you so much Susan!
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I will keep that in mind. I've spent lots of time on land records lately/ If you want to check yourself use www.onland.ca for the historical books. You already know the township: Tecumseth. If you don't know the lot and Concession number, you will go page by page. One thing, you can skip to the entries before 1920. Susan
On 2021-01-07 1:55 p.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
Well ... in a dream world ... the location of the farm and some info as to whatever became of their children would be wonderful, but I do not expect you to go to great lengths. You've been very helpful already!
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I found the certificate on Ancestry and the head stone at Pine Hills Cemetery, Scarbrough. Is there anything else you need? Susan
On 2021-01-07 1:14 p.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
This one might be slightly more clear
Rick Smoll PH: (512) 619-3860
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Actually Cookstown is smack in the middle of Simcoe County. I'm struggling to read the marriageecord you sent. It is blurry. Let me see if I can find iton Family search or Ancestry. For interest sake, the areas of Tecumseth, West Gwillimbury, Essa and Innisfil, Cookstown being at the intersection of all 4 townships, were settled by many Irish folk in the early to mid 1800s. Hence the name Innisfil. My surnames from Ulster include Wallace, Crawford, Black, Latimer, Neely, Fagan, Culbert, Johnston to name a few. Susan.
On 2021-01-07 12:44 p.m., CoTyroneIreland.com via CoTyroneList wrote:
That's not very close to Simcoe County??
Jim McKane
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:26 PM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine Hills Cemetery in Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada. They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
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Rick Smoll PH: (512) 619-3860
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I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names? Susan
On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
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Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ?? Jim
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
Rick Smoll
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Hi Rick, unable to help you, although I have been to Simcoe several times. I am intrigued by the reference to Church of England, as in Ireland it was the church of Ireland, and still is, being the established church at the time. Maybe somewhat surprisingly it still has its main HQ in Dublin. Gordon
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On 8 Jan 2021, at 2:59 am, Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
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Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ??
Jim
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
Rick Smoll
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My two cents worth, birds of a feather clock together. For my Smyths, of Tyrone, my Grandpa's Unc!e settled in Seattle then my Grandfather followed. In my husband's tree I saw the same with his Norwegian relatives. They came into Minnesota then on to Wisconsin which were well travelled routes of immigrants from Norway.
On January 7, 2021, at 7:50 AM, Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
Rick Smoll