I’ve done several track days at COTA on my 1098S, 1299S and Aprilia Tuono. I ride in the Advanced group so have pretty good pace. The bumps are there, but nowhere near as bad as you’ll experience on a regular basis when riding on the street. These bumps really become as issue at extreme lean angles and speed that the MotoGP racers are achieving. Unfortunately, Texas has horrible soil to build structures on. It moves quite significantly based upon moisture. COTA, when built, tried to lay down a very deep foundation to circumvent this, but it doesn’t appear to have worked. Of the many tracks, I’ve ridden, throughout the USA, Eagles Canyon in TX is the only one that had bad enough bumps to actually feel dangerous at my pace. I believe it has been resurfaced lately. So go have fun at COTA, ride your own pace, the track is wide and has plenty of paces for people to pass, so just enjoy your ride. My first time at COTA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr3gnyvV7EU Chris Edwards caedwards874@gmail.com (407) 902-1358 cell > On Oct 6, 2021, at 8:54 AM, jay via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net> wrote: > > > From: jay <xgironx@yahoo.com> > Subject: [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? > Date: October 6, 2021 at 8:54:38 AM CDT > To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > Reply-To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > > > Mario > You’re not gonna make a career of it, and it ain’t your first rodeo: > a bunch of coaches & racers here at Summit Point++ won’t go on-track without their Hit-Air airbag vests. > My Alpinestars TechAir airbag judged me harshly & declined to deploy on tight, twisty, technical Shenandoah in July. A meat-grinder Intermediate rider T-boned me while I was coaching. > Dainese D|Air covers no torso. > Once I recover, I might switch to tethered > https://hitairmoto.com/ <https://hitairmoto.com/> > This is the system that my equestrian wife uses for hunter-jumper & dressage work horse 🐴 w her OTTB retired racehorse. > Juan Lovitz > >> El oct. 5, 2021, a la(s) 15:26, Gene Hunt <Twolanefun@outlook.com> escribió: >> >> Mario go fast, brake well, go fast, have fun! It will also make you safer street rider. - Gene >> >> "I know a Few Roads" >> Charter Life Member American Motorcycle Association >> Charter Member Victory Motorcycle Club >> Member ducati.net >> Ex MSF Instructor >> Patriot Guard Rider >> >> 01' Victory Sport Cruiser >> 04' Victory Kingpin >> 16' Victory Cross Country Tour >> 02' Ducati Monster 900 >> 13' Ducati Diavel >> 09' XR1200 - Gone but not forgotten >> >> From: James Calandro <capo@carolina.rr.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 12:05 PM >> To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> >> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? >> >> Mario, >> >> Have fun and be safe. That is always something that pretty much goes hand in hand. It may have been my road hugging weight that caused some of the issues. I am jealous you are getting to ride there but my track days are done. I no long bounce when I fall. I also demonstrated that crashing sucks and it does not get better with practice. >> >> Jim >> Jim Calandro >> il Capo >> US DESMO >> www.usdesmo.com <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usdesmo.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6f60b24cbf5342e347dd08d9881a07f7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637690467655942791%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Iev45S2r77zHQW3xMLGIh1doCw3xxtqj2viFH4aoPc4%3D&reserved=0> >> 704-843-0429 >> >> "Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die" Buddha >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 12:00 PM Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com <mailto:mariobaroz@hotmail.com>> wrote: >> Jim, >> >> You're a much more accomplished rider than myself and I plan on taking it easy, even for myself. I'm tempted to stand up during the Rider's Meeting and say "hey guys, when you roll up on me, just go around, I'm your moving chicane for the weekend." I ride the twisties in the Hill Country as fast as I want to go and clearance is never an issue. >> >> I'm at the point in my life now where I'm not out to prove anything. My only goal is to have fun and get that great pic of cresting Turn 10 with the Mullet (observation tower) in the background. >> >> V/R, Mario >> >> From: James Calandro <capo@carolina.rr.com <mailto:capo@carolina.rr.com>> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 10:50 AM >> To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> >> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? >> >> Mario, that generation of Ducati is an excellent track day tool. Light and not something that will over power you but enough to have fun. One thing to watch out for is the exhaust collector under the motor. Where the piped exit to the side and then head to the rear of the bike can be a clearance issue. If you hit it hard enough you can lift the rear wheel off the ground. Ask me how I know. 😱🏍 Fortunately after much excitement I did not go down but I got those pipes shortened right after that and added a shock from the next series SS which is about a half inch longer. You can see how little clearance there is in this photo. >> >> Jim >> Jim Calandro >> il Capo >> US DESMO >> www.usdesmo.com <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usdesmo.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6f60b24cbf5342e347dd08d9881a07f7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637690467655952735%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=l9cqcjDQ0OnK%2F2iJWfJpijl6dMHMo7ld%2BzQUAdMF6kI%3D&reserved=0> >> 704-843-0429 >> >> "Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die" Buddha >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 11:42 AM Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com <mailto:mariobaroz@hotmail.com>> wrote: >> I'm doing a track day at COTA in November. All this talk about a bumpy, dangerous track was scaring me until I realized I will be going about 1/3rd of the Moto3 pace. And that's me full blast! hahahaha... I think I'll be ok. I'm still a little nervous as I haven't been on a track since 2001 and that was at Blackhawk Farms, not exactly a high speed circuit. >> >> I'll report my impressions here after my track day. >> >> BTW, I'll be doing it on my beloved 1996 900SS/CR. >> >> Mario >> >> From: Gene Hunt <Twolanefun@outlook.com <mailto:Twolanefun@outlook.com>> >> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 9:22 PM >> To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> >> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? >> >> Definitely some bumps, coming down the hill from turn 1 into 2 there were several that went down after hitting that bump not sure about other sections of the track. >> >> There is another bump on the straight after turn 2 but it did not seem to be a problem, but then I'm just some old dude that did track days, so on a GP machine it also might be a problem. - Gene >> >> "I know a Few Roads" >> Charter Life Member American Motorcycle Association >> Charter Member Victory Motorcycle Club >> Member ducati.net <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fducati.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6f60b24cbf5342e347dd08d9881a07f7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637690467655952735%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=XsmTTDU%2BT8x%2BkfRTQCQ9e9f%2FRHdoSjwMJqv0mLUgxFg%3D&reserved=0> >> Ex MSF Instructor >> Patriot Guard Rider >> >> 01' Victory Sport Cruiser >> 04' Victory Kingpin >> 16' Victory Cross Country Tour >> 02' Ducati Monster 900 >> 13' Ducati Diavel >> 09' XR1200 - Gone but not forgotten >> >> From: gregg kirby <gkpghpa@hotmail.com <mailto:gkpghpa@hotmail.com>> >> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 9:55 PM >> To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> >> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? >> >> During the broadcast on Motogp.com, I heard them say that if the track wasn’t fixed they wouldn’t be back. 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Pags: I also have a buddy that highsided with an airbag suit (Alpinestars) at Loudon coming out of 12 spectacularly. His also did not deploy and was deemed defective by the manufacturer only AFTER they denied it and said the crash didn't meet their parameters. He sent them the sequence photos captured by the track photographer. They subsequently replaced the unit for free and apologized. I just received my custom tailored Bison Vintage Rebirth suit and am very happy with it. I got the full perf/kangaroo suit for $1600 and the custom tailored gloves for another $300. I just couldn’t stretch to the extra cost of the airbag suit and airbag system. I was pricing them from Moto Liberty at COTA and Audrey (the owner) said a custom sized, airbag suit from RS Taichi would be about $5K. Too much for me. The Alpinestars rep told me that they plan on introducing a custom size program and he said he anticipates an custom sized airbag suit to come in around $2500 - 3K. Much better but still a tad too pricey. You know this already, but it's worth saying - if they're faster, they'll get around you just fine without any worries! Have fun - looking forward to the report. Yes, I’m acutely aware of that due to my previously mentioned inauspicious racing career! hahaha Chris: Of the many tracks, I’ve ridden, throughout the USA, Eagles Canyon in TX is the only one that had bad enough bumps to actually feel dangerous at my pace. I believe it has been resurfaced lately. So go have fun at COTA, ride your own pace, the track is wide and has plenty of paces for people to pass, so just enjoy your ride. Thanks Chris! The only track I truly hated riding was Hallett in Oklahoma. That was bumpy and abrasive and ugly. Hated it. Mario ________________________________ From: caedwards874@gmail.com <caedwards874@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 9:12 AM To: jay via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? I’ve done several track days at COTA on my 1098S, 1299S and Aprilia Tuono. I ride in the Advanced group so have pretty good pace. The bumps are there, but nowhere near as bad as you’ll experience on a regular basis when riding on the street. These bumps really become as issue at extreme lean angles and speed that the MotoGP racers are achieving. Unfortunately, Texas has horrible soil to build structures on. It moves quite significantly based upon moisture. COTA, when built, tried to lay down a very deep foundation to circumvent this, but it doesn’t appear to have worked. Of the many tracks, I’ve ridden, throughout the USA, Eagles Canyon in TX is the only one that had bad enough bumps to actually feel dangerous at my pace. I believe it has been resurfaced lately. So go have fun at COTA, ride your own pace, the track is wide and has plenty of paces for people to pass, so just enjoy your ride. My first time at COTA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr3gnyvV7EU<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNr3gnyvV7EU&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218255268%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=m1bJCNSFBqsXvr%2BMXOKdWV%2FQ9AMkpkFo6lOVAKbVRag%3D&reserved=0> Chris Edwards caedwards874@gmail.com<mailto:caedwards874@gmail.com> (407) 902-1358 cell On Oct 6, 2021, at 8:54 AM, jay via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> wrote: From: jay <xgironx@yahoo.com<mailto:xgironx@yahoo.com>> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? Date: October 6, 2021 at 8:54:38 AM CDT To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> Reply-To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> Mario You’re not gonna make a career of it, and it ain’t your first rodeo: a bunch of coaches & racers here at Summit Point++ won’t go on-track without their Hit-Air airbag vests. My Alpinestars TechAir airbag judged me harshly & declined to deploy on tight, twisty, technical Shenandoah in July. A meat-grinder Intermediate rider T-boned me while I was coaching. Dainese D|Air covers no torso. Once I recover, I might switch to tethered https://hitairmoto.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhitairmoto.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218255268%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=LYYlFGNa5FdmZ3W67ayplr%2B7Awaz%2B6%2FL%2BlxU0XO3vPk%3D&reserved=0> This is the system that my equestrian wife uses for hunter-jumper & dressage work horse 🐴 w her OTTB retired racehorse. Juan Lovitz El oct. 5, 2021, a la(s) 15:26, Gene Hunt <Twolanefun@outlook.com<mailto:Twolanefun@outlook.com>> escribió: Mario go fast, brake well, go fast, have fun! It will also make you safer street rider. - Gene "I know a Few Roads" Charter Life Member American Motorcycle Association Charter Member Victory Motorcycle Club Member ducati.net<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fducati.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218265221%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=6jNmgx0nNh1E5mHNq3GOTToI0TGuxenS%2FDRrjeyjlT8%3D&reserved=0> Ex MSF Instructor Patriot Guard Rider 01' Victory Sport Cruiser 04' Victory Kingpin 16' Victory Cross Country Tour 02' Ducati Monster 900 13' Ducati Diavel 09' XR1200 - Gone but not forgotten ________________________________ From: James Calandro <capo@carolina.rr.com<mailto:capo@carolina.rr.com>> Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 12:05 PM To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? Mario, Have fun and be safe. That is always something that pretty much goes hand in hand. It may have been my road hugging weight that caused some of the issues. I am jealous you are getting to ride there but my track days are done. I no long bounce when I fall. I also demonstrated that crashing sucks and it does not get better with practice. Jim Jim Calandro il Capo US DESMO www.usdesmo.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usdesmo.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218265221%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=vVUMRIe28r86fWdOdZoCWt%2FqSS%2BopZpIlOPN4moGu8E%3D&reserved=0> 704-843-0429 "Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die" Buddha On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 12:00 PM Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com<mailto:mariobaroz@hotmail.com>> wrote: Jim, You're a much more accomplished rider than myself and I plan on taking it easy, even for myself. I'm tempted to stand up during the Rider's Meeting and say "hey guys, when you roll up on me, just go around, I'm your moving chicane for the weekend." I ride the twisties in the Hill Country as fast as I want to go and clearance is never an issue. I'm at the point in my life now where I'm not out to prove anything. My only goal is to have fun and get that great pic of cresting Turn 10 with the Mullet (observation tower) in the background. V/R, Mario ________________________________ From: James Calandro <capo@carolina.rr.com<mailto:capo@carolina.rr.com>> Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 10:50 AM To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? Mario, that generation of Ducati is an excellent track day tool. Light and not something that will over power you but enough to have fun. One thing to watch out for is the exhaust collector under the motor. Where the piped exit to the side and then head to the rear of the bike can be a clearance issue. If you hit it hard enough you can lift the rear wheel off the ground. Ask me how I know. 😱🏍 Fortunately after much excitement I did not go down but I got those pipes shortened right after that and added a shock from the next series SS which is about a half inch longer. You can see how little clearance there is in this photo. Jim Jim Calandro il Capo US DESMO www.usdesmo.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usdesmo.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218275182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=7cK%2FqCJdcukoyW0wwe%2BHSTh6HPaUYJjeObDtMl6zms4%3D&reserved=0> 704-843-0429 "Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die" Buddha On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 11:42 AM Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com<mailto:mariobaroz@hotmail.com>> wrote: I'm doing a track day at COTA in November. All this talk about a bumpy, dangerous track was scaring me until I realized I will be going about 1/3rd of the Moto3 pace. And that's me full blast! hahahaha... I think I'll be ok. I'm still a little nervous as I haven't been on a track since 2001 and that was at Blackhawk Farms, not exactly a high speed circuit. I'll report my impressions here after my track day. BTW, I'll be doing it on my beloved 1996 900SS/CR. Mario ________________________________ From: Gene Hunt <Twolanefun@outlook.com<mailto:Twolanefun@outlook.com>> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 9:22 PM To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? Definitely some bumps, coming down the hill from turn 1 into 2 there were several that went down after hitting that bump not sure about other sections of the track. There is another bump on the straight after turn 2 but it did not seem to be a problem, but then I'm just some old dude that did track days, so on a GP machine it also might be a problem. - Gene "I know a Few Roads" Charter Life Member American Motorcycle Association Charter Member Victory Motorcycle Club Member ducati.net<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fducati.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218275182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=0zea4Cm7O3paLvW6UuW4og9KzU%2FYsdq2Ag6LeowFCqM%3D&reserved=0> Ex MSF Instructor Patriot Guard Rider 01' Victory Sport Cruiser 04' Victory Kingpin 16' Victory Cross Country Tour 02' Ducati Monster 900 13' Ducati Diavel 09' XR1200 - Gone but not forgotten ________________________________ From: gregg kirby <gkpghpa@hotmail.com<mailto:gkpghpa@hotmail.com>> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 9:55 PM To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? 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Raced once at Hallet in a 6 hour endurance race, Hallet felt like a velvet carpet compared to Eagles Canyon, though I must admit, I was riding a Kawasaki 250 at Hallet so my pace was a little different than my 1098 at EC. > On Oct 6, 2021, at 1:06 PM, Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Pags: > > I also have a buddy that highsided with an airbag suit (Alpinestars) at Loudon coming out of 12 spectacularly. His also did not deploy and was deemed defective by the manufacturer only AFTER they denied it and said the crash didn't meet their parameters. He sent them the sequence photos captured by the track photographer. They subsequently replaced the unit for free and apologized. > > I just received my custom tailored Bison Vintage Rebirth suit and am very happy with it. I got the full perf/kangaroo suit for $1600 and the custom tailored gloves for another $300. I just couldn’t stretch to the extra cost of the airbag suit and airbag system. I was pricing them from Moto Liberty at COTA and Audrey (the owner) said a custom sized, airbag suit from RS Taichi would be about $5K. Too much for me. The Alpinestars rep told me that they plan on introducing a custom size program and he said he anticipates an custom sized airbag suit to come in around $2500 - 3K. Much better but still a tad too pricey. > > You know this already, but it's worth saying - if they're faster, they'll get around you just fine without any worries! > > Have fun - looking forward to the report. > > Yes, I’m acutely aware of that due to my previously mentioned inauspicious racing career! hahaha > > Chris: > > Of the many tracks, I’ve ridden, throughout the USA, Eagles Canyon in TX is the only one that had bad enough bumps to actually feel dangerous at my pace. I believe it has been resurfaced lately. > > So go have fun at COTA, ride your own pace, the track is wide and has plenty of paces for people to pass, so just enjoy your ride. > > Thanks Chris! The only track I truly hated riding was Hallett in Oklahoma. That was bumpy and abrasive and ugly. Hated it. > > > Mario > > From: caedwards874@gmail.com <caedwards874@gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 9:12 AM > To: jay via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net> > Subject: [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? > > I’ve done several track days at COTA on my 1098S, 1299S and Aprilia Tuono. I ride in the Advanced group so have pretty good pace. > > The bumps are there, but nowhere near as bad as you’ll experience on a regular basis when riding on the street. These bumps really become as issue at extreme lean angles and speed that the MotoGP racers are achieving. > > Unfortunately, Texas has horrible soil to build structures on. It moves quite significantly based upon moisture. COTA, when built, tried to lay down a very deep foundation to circumvent this, but it doesn’t appear to have worked. > > Of the many tracks, I’ve ridden, throughout the USA, Eagles Canyon in TX is the only one that had bad enough bumps to actually feel dangerous at my pace. I believe it has been resurfaced lately. > > So go have fun at COTA, ride your own pace, the track is wide and has plenty of paces for people to pass, so just enjoy your ride. > > My first time at COTA > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr3gnyvV7EU <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNr3gnyvV7EU&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218255268%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=m1bJCNSFBqsXvr%2BMXOKdWV%2FQ9AMkpkFo6lOVAKbVRag%3D&reserved=0> > > > Chris Edwards > caedwards874@gmail.com <mailto:caedwards874@gmail.com> > (407) 902-1358 cell > > > >> On Oct 6, 2021, at 8:54 AM, jay via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> wrote: >> >> >> From: jay <xgironx@yahoo.com <mailto:xgironx@yahoo.com>> >> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? >> Date: October 6, 2021 at 8:54:38 AM CDT >> To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> >> Reply-To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> >> >> >> Mario >> You’re not gonna make a career of it, and it ain’t your first rodeo: >> a bunch of coaches & racers here at Summit Point++ won’t go on-track without their Hit-Air airbag vests. >> My Alpinestars TechAir airbag judged me harshly & declined to deploy on tight, twisty, technical Shenandoah in July. A meat-grinder Intermediate rider T-boned me while I was coaching. >> Dainese D|Air covers no torso. >> Once I recover, I might switch to tethered >> https://hitairmoto.com/ <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhitairmoto.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218255268%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=LYYlFGNa5FdmZ3W67ayplr%2B7Awaz%2B6%2FL%2BlxU0XO3vPk%3D&reserved=0> >> This is the system that my equestrian wife uses for hunter-jumper & dressage work horse 🐴 w her OTTB retired racehorse. >> Juan Lovitz >> >>> El oct. 5, 2021, a la(s) 15:26, Gene Hunt <Twolanefun@outlook.com <mailto:Twolanefun@outlook.com>> escribió: >>> >>> Mario go fast, brake well, go fast, have fun! It will also make you safer street rider. - Gene >>> >>> "I know a Few Roads" >>> Charter Life Member American Motorcycle Association >>> Charter Member Victory Motorcycle Club >>> Member ducati.net <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fducati.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218265221%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=6jNmgx0nNh1E5mHNq3GOTToI0TGuxenS%2FDRrjeyjlT8%3D&reserved=0> >>> Ex MSF Instructor >>> Patriot Guard Rider >>> >>> 01' Victory Sport Cruiser >>> 04' Victory Kingpin >>> 16' Victory Cross Country Tour >>> 02' Ducati Monster 900 >>> 13' Ducati Diavel >>> 09' XR1200 - Gone but not forgotten >>> >>> From: James Calandro <capo@carolina.rr.com <mailto:capo@carolina.rr.com>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 12:05 PM >>> To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> >>> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? >>> >>> Mario, >>> >>> Have fun and be safe. That is always something that pretty much goes hand in hand. It may have been my road hugging weight that caused some of the issues. I am jealous you are getting to ride there but my track days are done. I no long bounce when I fall. I also demonstrated that crashing sucks and it does not get better with practice. >>> >>> Jim >>> Jim Calandro >>> il Capo >>> US DESMO >>> www.usdesmo.com <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usdesmo.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218265221%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=vVUMRIe28r86fWdOdZoCWt%2FqSS%2BopZpIlOPN4moGu8E%3D&reserved=0> >>> 704-843-0429 >>> >>> "Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die" Buddha >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 12:00 PM Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com <mailto:mariobaroz@hotmail.com>> wrote: >>> Jim, >>> >>> You're a much more accomplished rider than myself and I plan on taking it easy, even for myself. I'm tempted to stand up during the Rider's Meeting and say "hey guys, when you roll up on me, just go around, I'm your moving chicane for the weekend." I ride the twisties in the Hill Country as fast as I want to go and clearance is never an issue. >>> >>> I'm at the point in my life now where I'm not out to prove anything. My only goal is to have fun and get that great pic of cresting Turn 10 with the Mullet (observation tower) in the background. >>> >>> V/R, Mario >>> >>> From: James Calandro <capo@carolina.rr.com <mailto:capo@carolina.rr.com>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 10:50 AM >>> To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> >>> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? >>> >>> Mario, that generation of Ducati is an excellent track day tool. Light and not something that will over power you but enough to have fun. One thing to watch out for is the exhaust collector under the motor. Where the piped exit to the side and then head to the rear of the bike can be a clearance issue. If you hit it hard enough you can lift the rear wheel off the ground. Ask me how I know. 😱🏍 Fortunately after much excitement I did not go down but I got those pipes shortened right after that and added a shock from the next series SS which is about a half inch longer. You can see how little clearance there is in this photo. >>> >>> Jim >>> Jim Calandro >>> il Capo >>> US DESMO >>> www.usdesmo.com <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usdesmo.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218275182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=7cK%2FqCJdcukoyW0wwe%2BHSTh6HPaUYJjeObDtMl6zms4%3D&reserved=0> >>> 704-843-0429 >>> >>> "Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die" Buddha >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 11:42 AM Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com <mailto:mariobaroz@hotmail.com>> wrote: >>> I'm doing a track day at COTA in November. All this talk about a bumpy, dangerous track was scaring me until I realized I will be going about 1/3rd of the Moto3 pace. And that's me full blast! hahahaha... I think I'll be ok. I'm still a little nervous as I haven't been on a track since 2001 and that was at Blackhawk Farms, not exactly a high speed circuit. >>> >>> I'll report my impressions here after my track day. >>> >>> BTW, I'll be doing it on my beloved 1996 900SS/CR. >>> >>> Mario >>> >>> From: Gene Hunt <Twolanefun@outlook.com <mailto:Twolanefun@outlook.com>> >>> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 9:22 PM >>> To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> >>> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? >>> >>> Definitely some bumps, coming down the hill from turn 1 into 2 there were several that went down after hitting that bump not sure about other sections of the track. >>> >>> There is another bump on the straight after turn 2 but it did not seem to be a problem, but then I'm just some old dude that did track days, so on a GP machine it also might be a problem. - Gene >>> >>> "I know a Few Roads" >>> Charter Life Member American Motorcycle Association >>> Charter Member Victory Motorcycle Club >>> Member ducati.net <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fducati.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218275182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=0zea4Cm7O3paLvW6UuW4og9KzU%2FYsdq2Ag6LeowFCqM%3D&reserved=0> >>> Ex MSF Instructor >>> Patriot Guard Rider >>> >>> 01' Victory Sport Cruiser >>> 04' Victory Kingpin >>> 16' Victory Cross Country Tour >>> 02' Ducati Monster 900 >>> 13' Ducati Diavel >>> 09' XR1200 - Gone but not forgotten >>> >>> From: gregg kirby <gkpghpa@hotmail.com <mailto:gkpghpa@hotmail.com>> >>> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 9:55 PM >>> To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> >>> Subject: [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? >>> >>> During the broadcast on Motogp.com <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmotogp.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218285138%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=qalH3CzoHwDlcqltyezch0iAy%2BCj5JTrsT%2BjNRwPRjk%3D&reserved=0>, I heard them say that if the track wasn’t fixed they wouldn’t be back. So for them to have it ready for April, they have to get going on the resurfacing in the not too distant future I would think. Fingers crossed. 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Hey - I'll be doing a 16-hour endurance race at Hallett this weekend, but in a (former) Spec Miata. I LOVE this track, especially when we reverse directions between Saturday and Sunday - it's like two different venues in how it flows! That said, the new pavement/layout at Eagles Canyon is sublime. Of course, all my track time has been in cages for almost 20 years now, minus a couple rider days. After my last smash I''m a bit less excited about riding on the street anymore and thinking about getting back to more regular track outings on a bike again. I think over the winter I'm gonna shine up the old Hawk GT rat for a new campaign season... Christian On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 10:47 AM Music City DOC <caedwards874@gmail.com> wrote: > Raced once at Hallet in a 6 hour endurance race, Hallet felt like a velvet > carpet compared to Eagles Canyon, though I must admit, I was riding a > Kawasaki 250 at Hallet so my pace was a little different than my 1098 at EC. > > > On Oct 6, 2021, at 1:06 PM, Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Pags: > > I also have a buddy that highsided with an airbag suit (Alpinestars) at > Loudon coming out of 12 spectacularly. His also did not deploy and was > deemed defective by the manufacturer only AFTER they denied it and said the > crash didn't meet their parameters. He sent them the sequence photos > captured by the track photographer. They subsequently replaced the unit > for free and apologized. > > I just received my custom tailored Bison Vintage Rebirth suit and am very > happy with it. I got the full perf/kangaroo suit for $1600 and the custom > tailored gloves for another $300. I just couldn’t stretch to the extra > cost of the airbag suit and airbag system. I was pricing them from Moto > Liberty at COTA and Audrey (the owner) said a custom sized, airbag suit > from RS Taichi would be about $5K. Too much for me. The Alpinestars rep > told me that they plan on introducing a custom size program and he said he > anticipates an custom sized airbag suit to come in around $2500 - 3K. Much > better but still a tad too pricey. > > You know this already, but it's worth saying - if they're faster, they'll > get around you just fine without any worries! > > Have fun - looking forward to the report. > > Yes, I’m acutely aware of that due to my previously mentioned inauspicious > racing career! hahaha > > Chris: > > Of the many tracks, I’ve ridden, throughout the USA, Eagles Canyon in TX > is the only one that had bad enough bumps to actually feel dangerous at my > pace. I believe it has been resurfaced lately. > > So go have fun at COTA, ride your own pace, the track is wide and has > plenty of paces for people to pass, so just enjoy your ride. > > Thanks Chris! The only track I truly hated riding was Hallett in Oklahoma. > That was bumpy and abrasive and ugly. Hated it. > > Mario > > ------------------------------ > *From:* caedwards874@gmail.com <caedwards874@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 6, 2021 9:12 AM > *To:* jay via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net> > *Subject:* [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? > > I’ve done several track days at COTA on my 1098S, 1299S and Aprilia Tuono. > I ride in the Advanced group so have pretty good pace. > > The bumps are there, but nowhere near as bad as you’ll experience on a > regular basis when riding on the street. These bumps really become as issue > at extreme lean angles and speed that the MotoGP racers are achieving. > > Unfortunately, Texas has horrible soil to build structures on. It moves > quite significantly based upon moisture. COTA, when built, tried to lay > down a very deep foundation to circumvent this, but it doesn’t appear to > have worked. > > Of the many tracks, I’ve ridden, throughout the USA, Eagles Canyon in TX > is the only one that had bad enough bumps to actually feel dangerous at my > pace. I believe it has been resurfaced lately. > > So go have fun at COTA, ride your own pace, the track is wide and has > plenty of paces for people to pass, so just enjoy your ride. > > My first time at COTA > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr3gnyvV7EU > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNr3gnyvV7EU&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218255268%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=m1bJCNSFBqsXvr%2BMXOKdWV%2FQ9AMkpkFo6lOVAKbVRag%3D&reserved=0> > > > Chris Edwards > caedwards874@gmail.com > (407) 902-1358 cell > > > > On Oct 6, 2021, at 8:54 AM, jay via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net> wrote: > > > *From: *jay <xgironx@yahoo.com> > *Subject: **[Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022?* > *Date: *October 6, 2021 at 8:54:38 AM CDT > *To: *Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > *Reply-To: *Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > > > Mario > You’re not gonna make a career of it, and it ain’t your first rodeo: > a bunch of coaches & racers here at Summit Point++ won’t go on-track > without their Hit-Air airbag vests. > My Alpinestars TechAir airbag judged me harshly & declined to deploy on > tight, twisty, technical Shenandoah in July. A meat-grinder Intermediate > rider T-boned me while I was coaching. > Dainese D|Air covers no torso. > Once I recover, I might switch to tethered > https://hitairmoto.com/ > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhitairmoto.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218255268%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=LYYlFGNa5FdmZ3W67ayplr%2B7Awaz%2B6%2FL%2BlxU0XO3vPk%3D&reserved=0> > This is the system that my equestrian wife uses for hunter-jumper & > dressage work horse 🐴 w her OTTB retired racehorse. > Juan Lovitz > > El oct. 5, 2021, a la(s) 15:26, Gene Hunt <Twolanefun@outlook.com> > escribió: > > Mario go fast, brake well, go fast, have fun! It will also make you safer > street rider. - Gene > > "I know a Few Roads" > Charter Life Member American Motorcycle Association > Charter Member Victory Motorcycle Club > Member ducati.net > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fducati.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218265221%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=6jNmgx0nNh1E5mHNq3GOTToI0TGuxenS%2FDRrjeyjlT8%3D&reserved=0> > Ex MSF Instructor > Patriot Guard Rider > > 01' Victory Sport Cruiser > 04' Victory Kingpin > 16' Victory Cross Country Tour > 02' Ducati Monster 900 > 13' Ducati Diavel > 09' XR1200 - Gone but not forgotten > > ------------------------------ > *From:* James Calandro <capo@carolina.rr.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 5, 2021 12:05 PM > *To:* Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > *Subject:* [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? > > Mario, > > Have fun and be safe. That is always something that pretty much goes hand > in hand. It may have been my road hugging weight that caused some of the > issues. I am jealous you are getting to ride there but my track days are > done. I no long bounce when I fall. I also demonstrated that crashing > sucks and it does not get better with practice. > > Jim > Jim Calandro > il Capo > US DESMO > www.usdesmo.com > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usdesmo.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218265221%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=vVUMRIe28r86fWdOdZoCWt%2FqSS%2BopZpIlOPN4moGu8E%3D&reserved=0> > 704-843-0429 > > "Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person > to die" Buddha > > > On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 12:00 PM Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > Jim, > > You're a much more accomplished rider than myself and I plan on taking it > easy, even for myself. I'm tempted to stand up during the Rider's Meeting > and say "hey guys, when you roll up on me, just go around, I'm your moving > chicane for the weekend." I ride the twisties in the Hill Country as fast > as I want to go and clearance is never an issue. > > I'm at the point in my life now where I'm not out to prove anything. My > only goal is to have fun and get that great pic of cresting Turn 10 with > the Mullet (observation tower) in the background. > > V/R, Mario > > ------------------------------ > *From:* James Calandro <capo@carolina.rr.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 5, 2021 10:50 AM > *To:* Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > *Subject:* [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? > > Mario, that generation of Ducati is an excellent track day tool. Light > and not something that will over power you but enough to have fun. One > thing to watch out for is the exhaust collector under the motor. Where the > piped exit to the side and then head to the rear of the bike can be a > clearance issue. If you hit it hard enough you can lift the rear wheel off > the ground. Ask me how I know. 😱🏍 Fortunately after much excitement I > did not go down but I got those pipes shortened right after that and added > a shock from the next series SS which is about a half inch longer. You can > see how little clearance there is in this photo. > > Jim > Jim Calandro > il Capo > US DESMO > www.usdesmo.com > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usdesmo.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218275182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=7cK%2FqCJdcukoyW0wwe%2BHSTh6HPaUYJjeObDtMl6zms4%3D&reserved=0> > 704-843-0429 > > "Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person > to die" Buddha > > > On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 11:42 AM Mario Baroz <mariobaroz@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > I'm doing a track day at COTA in November. All this talk about a bumpy, > dangerous track was scaring me until I realized I will be going about 1/3rd > of the Moto3 pace. And that's me full blast! hahahaha... I think I'll be > ok. I'm still a little nervous as I haven't been on a track since 2001 and > that was at Blackhawk Farms, not exactly a high speed circuit. > > I'll report my impressions here after my track day. > > BTW, I'll be doing it on my beloved 1996 900SS/CR. > > Mario > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Gene Hunt <Twolanefun@outlook.com> > *Sent:* Monday, October 4, 2021 9:22 PM > *To:* Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > *Subject:* [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? > > Definitely some bumps, coming down the hill from turn 1 into 2 there were > several that went down after hitting that bump not sure about other > sections of the track. > > There is another bump on the straight after turn 2 but it did not seem to > be a problem, but then I'm just some old dude that did track days, so on a > GP machine it also might be a problem. - Gene > > "I know a Few Roads" > Charter Life Member American Motorcycle Association > Charter Member Victory Motorcycle Club > Member ducati.net > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fducati.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218275182%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=0zea4Cm7O3paLvW6UuW4og9KzU%2FYsdq2Ag6LeowFCqM%3D&reserved=0> > Ex MSF Instructor > Patriot Guard Rider > > 01' Victory Sport Cruiser > 04' Victory Kingpin > 16' Victory Cross Country Tour > 02' Ducati Monster 900 > 13' Ducati Diavel > 09' XR1200 - Gone but not forgotten > > ------------------------------ > *From:* gregg kirby <gkpghpa@hotmail.com> > *Sent:* Monday, October 4, 2021 9:55 PM > *To:* Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > *Subject:* [Ducati] Re: Motogp 2022? > > During the broadcast on Motogp.com > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmotogp.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4a1a27e21343da955008d988d37d17%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637691264218285138%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=qalH3CzoHwDlcqltyezch0iAy%2BCj5JTrsT%2BjNRwPRjk%3D&reserved=0>, > I heard them say that if the track wasn’t fixed they wouldn’t be back. 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Side note, I bought and sold like 4 hawks over the years and still lust after one for some reason. Go figure. > On Oct 7, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Christian Els <tian647@gmail.com> wrote: > >  > Hey - I'll be doing a 16-hour endurance race at Hallett this weekend, but in a (former) Spec Miata. > > I LOVE this track, especially when we reverse directions between Saturday and Sunday - it's like two different venues in how it flows! > > That said, the new pavement/layout at Eagles Canyon is sublime. > > Of course, all my track time has been in cages for almost 20 years now, minus a couple rider days. > > After my last smash I''m a bit less excited about riding on the street anymore and thinking about getting back to more regular track outings on a bike again. > > I think over the winter I'm gonna shine up the old Hawk GT rat for a new campaign season... > > > Christian

About bumps - I just remembered. There was a time when the seals on my shocks failed on the Cagiva Alazzurra 650. It was like a pogo stick at the back end. It was really exciting, but then I was not racing nor on track, just fairly tight small roads in the hills of the San Francisco East Bay. I learned how to let the bike do its own thing underneath me and stay loose. On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 at 18:37, Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > Side note, I bought and sold like 4 hawks over the years and still lust > after one for some reason. Go figure. > > > On Oct 7, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Christian Els <tian647@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >  > > Hey - I'll be doing a 16-hour endurance race at Hallett this weekend, > but in a (former) Spec Miata. > > > > I LOVE this track, especially when we reverse directions between > Saturday and Sunday - it's like two different venues in how it flows! > > > > That said, the new pavement/layout at Eagles Canyon is sublime. > > > > Of course, all my track time has been in cages for almost 20 years now, > minus a couple rider days. > > > > After my last smash I''m a bit less excited about riding on the street > anymore and thinking about getting back to more regular track outings on a > bike again. > > > > I think over the winter I'm gonna shine up the old Hawk GT rat for a new > campaign season... > > > > > > Christian > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s