I just was not thinking. Of course, If I start a thread with "No Spoiler," of course, no subsequent posts can say anything revealing. So, here we go with a no holds barred discussion of today's event: The Great Spanish Bake-Off.

I enjoyed the race, though it was not the race I expected. I expected to see Vale look like he had nothing left in the tank when he finished, but it seemed to me that no one had anything left, except for Quartararo. From the parc firme interview and video, it looked like he could have gone another three to four laps. In addition to his speed around the track, this factor, if true, makes him a formidable racer. I think it got over 140 degrees Fahrenheit at some places on the track. This takes me back to the Laguna Seca MotoGP, when it was hot enough to peel the surface off the track. Riding home, when I hit a heat wave (Morgan Hill, I think it was), I had to stop the bike because I thought it was suddenly on fire. And, that was just a nice, easy ride home. Ah, to be 41 again. So, do we still think Rossi should retire? As someone who still hopes to go a little bit fast at 64 years of age, I love seeing someone podium at MotoGP at 41. Maybe he does not have what it takes to really take on the likes of MM and FQ, but then, who does. After watching others retire at much younger ages after a season or two of floundering mid-pack, to see Vale podium at 41, I say, as long as he can get a seat, GOOOOO! Such a race of attrition. Did the commentators ever say "they're dropping like flies."? It was the perfect opportunity to do so. Looked like a greasy track above a certain temperature - good for frying eggs, but not for resisting centrifugal force. If climate change raises the temperatures consistently at tracks like this, maybe we'll see more night time racing, which I do not like. Did the change of schedule affect this? Back to the race. Fabio was amazing, They compared this ride to Lorenzo when he was in the zone and just ran alone at the front. Could Viñales have caught Fabio if Rossi had not blocked him for so long? Probably not. Rossi was also amazing in that he had enough strength and endurance to manage this race, although I think if it had gone another lap, he would have lost third place to Nakagami. Now, about Nakagami. Where did he come from? I hope he can continue to ride as he did today. Dovi was lucky to finish 6th; all of the places he gained were due to DNFs. Maybe Dovi should consider retiring. Also, I watched the MotoE race, and, even without the commentators injecting excitement into the racing, it was a pretty exciting and eventful race. Hoping for more of this, maybe with less crashing into other riders. Kevin On Sun, 26 Jul 2020 at 13:13, Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > I just was not thinking. Of course, If I start a thread with "No Spoiler," > of course, no subsequent posts can say anything revealing. So, here we go > with a no holds barred discussion of today's event: The Great Spanish > Bake-Off. >

Best part of the race was when Rossi hopped on the impact barrier celebrating in front of an empty crowd LOL 😂😂😂😂 a lot of them capitalized from a couple of DNFs like Peco and Morbi. Peco is looking good to be honest. I hope he continues his form beating miller. ‘If’ they didn’t have mechanical issues, Rossi Prob would’nt have been on the podium. 2 broken Yami engines??? Is it from squeezing all the hp’s they can get impacting reliability? They really needed the hp last year and they seem to have achieved it now, but... 2 engines down! On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 5:03 PM Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > I enjoyed the race, though it was not the race I expected. > I expected to see Vale look like he had nothing left in the tank when he > finished, but it seemed to me that no one had anything left, except for > Quartararo. From the parc firme interview and video, it looked like he > could have gone another three to four laps. In addition to his speed around > the track, this factor, if true, makes him a formidable racer. I think it > got over 140 degrees Fahrenheit at some places on the track. > This takes me back to the Laguna Seca MotoGP, when it was hot enough to > peel the surface off the track. Riding home, when I hit a heat wave (Morgan > Hill, I think it was), I had to stop the bike because I thought it was > suddenly on fire. And, that was just a nice, easy ride home. > Ah, to be 41 again. So, do we still think Rossi should retire? As someone > who still hopes to go a little bit fast at 64 years of age, I love seeing > someone podium at MotoGP at 41. Maybe he does not have what it takes to > really take on the likes of MM and FQ, but then, who does. After watching > others retire at much younger ages after a season or two of floundering > mid-pack, to see Vale podium at 41, I say, as long as he can get a seat, > GOOOOO! > Such a race of attrition. Did the commentators ever say "they're dropping > like flies."? It was the perfect opportunity to do so. Looked like a greasy > track above a certain temperature - good for frying eggs, but not for > resisting centrifugal force. If climate change raises the temperatures > consistently at tracks like this, maybe we'll see more night time racing, > which I do not like. Did the change of schedule affect this? > Back to the race. Fabio was amazing, They compared this ride to Lorenzo > when he was in the zone and just ran alone at the front. Could Viñales have > caught Fabio if Rossi had not blocked him for so long? Probably not. Rossi > was also amazing in that he had enough strength and endurance to manage > this race, although I think if it had gone another lap, he would have lost > third place to Nakagami. Now, about Nakagami. Where did he come from? I > hope he can continue to ride as he did today. Dovi was lucky to finish 6th; > all of the places he gained were due to DNFs. Maybe Dovi should consider > retiring. > Also, I watched the MotoE race, and, even without the commentators > injecting excitement into the racing, it was a pretty exciting and eventful > race. Hoping for more of this, maybe with less crashing into other riders. > Kevin > > On Sun, 26 Jul 2020 at 13:13, Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I just was not thinking. Of course, If I start a thread with "No > Spoiler," > > of course, no subsequent posts can say anything revealing. So, here we go > > with a no holds barred discussion of today's event: The Great Spanish > > Bake-Off. > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #

For me, it was the excitement of watching Rossi have pace at the beginning and through the race as well, even saying what you wish about attrition, because you know what they say about finishing……… also being 64 yrs young like KK, it continues to thrill me to see a 41 yr old have the skill and stamina to achieve results like this, even when it's not hot as snot. (I was at Laguna as well as a heat reference). It was priceless seeing him wave to the “crowd” after the race! I’ll bet there’s a lot of Yamaha team members fretting over the engine failures. The Duc motor going south as well was a shame for Peco. We don’t always hear what the cause of failure was at this level of racing, but might it have simply been a heat related issue both this weekend and last? Looking forward to more racing! Tough to make pics for the fantasy league! STeve > On Jul 26, 2020, at 11:08 PM, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > Best part of the race was when Rossi hopped on the impact barrier > celebrating in front of an empty crowd LOL 😂😂😂😂 > > a lot of them capitalized from a couple of DNFs like Peco and Morbi. > Peco is looking good to be honest. I hope he continues his form beating > miller. ‘If’ they didn’t have mechanical issues, Rossi Prob would’nt have > been on the podium. > > > > 2 broken Yami engines??? Is it from squeezing all the hp’s they can get > impacting reliability? > They really needed the hp last year and they seem to have achieved it now, > but... 2 engines down! > > > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 5:03 PM Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com <mailto:kkachadourian@gmail.com>> > wrote: > >> I enjoyed the race, though it was not the race I expected. >> I expected to see Vale look like he had nothing left in the tank when he >> finished, but it seemed to me that no one had anything left, except for >> Quartararo. From the parc firme interview and video, it looked like he >> could have gone another three to four laps. In addition to his speed around >> the track, this factor, if true, makes him a formidable racer. I think it >> got over 140 degrees Fahrenheit at some places on the track. >> This takes me back to the Laguna Seca MotoGP, when it was hot enough to >> peel the surface off the track. Riding home, when I hit a heat wave (Morgan >> Hill, I think it was), I had to stop the bike because I thought it was >> suddenly on fire. And, that was just a nice, easy ride home. >> Ah, to be 41 again. So, do we still think Rossi should retire? As someone >> who still hopes to go a little bit fast at 64 years of age, I love seeing >> someone podium at MotoGP at 41. Maybe he does not have what it takes to >> really take on the likes of MM and FQ, but then, who does. After watching >> others retire at much younger ages after a season or two of floundering >> mid-pack, to see Vale podium at 41, I say, as long as he can get a seat, >> GOOOOO! >> Such a race of attrition. Did the commentators ever say "they're dropping >> like flies."? It was the perfect opportunity to do so. Looked like a greasy >> track above a certain temperature - good for frying eggs, but not for >> resisting centrifugal force. If climate change raises the temperatures >> consistently at tracks like this, maybe we'll see more night time racing, >> which I do not like. Did the change of schedule affect this? >> Back to the race. Fabio was amazing, They compared this ride to Lorenzo >> when he was in the zone and just ran alone at the front. Could Viñales have >> caught Fabio if Rossi had not blocked him for so long? Probably not. Rossi >> was also amazing in that he had enough strength and endurance to manage >> this race, although I think if it had gone another lap, he would have lost >> third place to Nakagami. Now, about Nakagami. Where did he come from? I >> hope he can continue to ride as he did today. Dovi was lucky to finish 6th; >> all of the places he gained were due to DNFs. Maybe Dovi should consider >> retiring. >> Also, I watched the MotoE race, and, even without the commentators >> injecting excitement into the racing, it was a pretty exciting and eventful >> race. Hoping for more of this, maybe with less crashing into other riders. >> Kevin >> >> On Sun, 26 Jul 2020 at 13:13, Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I just was not thinking. Of course, If I start a thread with "No >> Spoiler," >>> of course, no subsequent posts can say anything revealing. So, here we go >>> with a no holds barred discussion of today's event: The Great Spanish >>> Bake-Off. >>> >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com <mailto:nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> >> > -- > sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ <http://www.ductalk.com/> > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet <https://www.facebook.com/ducnet> > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net <http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net> > Mailto: desmo900cr@gmail.com <mailto:desmo900cr@gmail.com>

Damn no chatter about the race? What happened to Factory bound Miller? Yeeeep Dovi top Ducati rider, Yet again, Peco Taka Morbi were pretty impressive.. too bad for their mechanical issues.. I’ve read that there’s a Michelin recipe that can help with the chemical reaction in the tyres? On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 9:07 AM stephen abramson <desmo900cr@gmail.com> wrote: > For me, it was the excitement of watching Rossi have pace at the beginning > and through the race as well, even saying what you wish about attrition, > because you know what they say about finishing……… also being 64 yrs young > like KK, it continues to thrill me to see a 41 yr old have the skill and > stamina to achieve results like this, even when it's not hot as snot. (I > was at Laguna as well as a heat reference). It was priceless seeing him > wave to the “crowd” after the race! > > I’ll bet there’s a lot of Yamaha team members fretting over the engine > failures. The Duc motor going south as well was a shame for Peco. We don’t > always hear what the cause of failure was at this level of racing, but > might it have simply been a heat related issue both this weekend and last? > > Looking forward to more racing! Tough to make pics for the fantasy league! > > STeve > > > On Jul 26, 2020, at 11:08 PM, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Best part of the race was when Rossi hopped on the impact barrier > > celebrating in front of an empty crowd LOL 😂😂😂😂 > > > > a lot of them capitalized from a couple of DNFs like Peco and Morbi. > > Peco is looking good to be honest. I hope he continues his form beating > > miller. ‘If’ they didn’t have mechanical issues, Rossi Prob would’nt have > > been on the podium. > > > > > > > > 2 broken Yami engines??? Is it from squeezing all the hp’s they can get > > impacting reliability? > > They really needed the hp last year and they seem to have achieved it > now, > > but... 2 engines down! > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 5:03 PM Kevin Kachadourian < > kkachadourian@gmail.com <mailto:kkachadourian@gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > >> I enjoyed the race, though it was not the race I expected. > >> I expected to see Vale look like he had nothing left in the tank when he > >> finished, but it seemed to me that no one had anything left, except for > >> Quartararo. From the parc firme interview and video, it looked like he > >> could have gone another three to four laps. In addition to his speed > around > >> the track, this factor, if true, makes him a formidable racer. I think > it > >> got over 140 degrees Fahrenheit at some places on the track. > >> This takes me back to the Laguna Seca MotoGP, when it was hot enough to > >> peel the surface off the track. Riding home, when I hit a heat wave > (Morgan > >> Hill, I think it was), I had to stop the bike because I thought it was > >> suddenly on fire. And, that was just a nice, easy ride home. > >> Ah, to be 41 again. So, do we still think Rossi should retire? As > someone > >> who still hopes to go a little bit fast at 64 years of age, I love > seeing > >> someone podium at MotoGP at 41. Maybe he does not have what it takes to > >> really take on the likes of MM and FQ, but then, who does. After > watching > >> others retire at much younger ages after a season or two of floundering > >> mid-pack, to see Vale podium at 41, I say, as long as he can get a seat, > >> GOOOOO! > >> Such a race of attrition. Did the commentators ever say "they're > dropping > >> like flies."? It was the perfect opportunity to do so. Looked like a > greasy > >> track above a certain temperature - good for frying eggs, but not for > >> resisting centrifugal force. If climate change raises the temperatures > >> consistently at tracks like this, maybe we'll see more night time > racing, > >> which I do not like. Did the change of schedule affect this? > >> Back to the race. Fabio was amazing, They compared this ride to Lorenzo > >> when he was in the zone and just ran alone at the front. Could Viñales > have > >> caught Fabio if Rossi had not blocked him for so long? Probably not. > Rossi > >> was also amazing in that he had enough strength and endurance to manage > >> this race, although I think if it had gone another lap, he would have > lost > >> third place to Nakagami. Now, about Nakagami. Where did he come from? I > >> hope he can continue to ride as he did today. Dovi was lucky to finish > 6th; > >> all of the places he gained were due to DNFs. Maybe Dovi should consider > >> retiring. > >> Also, I watched the MotoE race, and, even without the commentators > >> injecting excitement into the racing, it was a pretty exciting and > eventful > >> race. Hoping for more of this, maybe with less crashing into other > riders. > >> Kevin > >> > >> On Sun, 26 Jul 2020 at 13:13, Kevin Kachadourian < > kkachadourian@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I just was not thinking. Of course, If I start a thread with "No > >> Spoiler," > >>> of course, no subsequent posts can say anything revealing. So, here we > go > >>> with a no holds barred discussion of today's event: The Great Spanish > >>> Bake-Off. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > >> http://www.ductalk.com/ > >> and > >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > >> _____________________ > >> Ducati mailing list > >> Ducati@list.ducati.net > >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > >> Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com <mailto:nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> > >> > > -- > > sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > http://www.ductalk.com/ <http://www.ductalk.com/> > > and > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet <https://www.facebook.com/ducnet> > > _____________________ > > Ducati mailing list > > Ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net < > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net> > > Mailto: desmo900cr@gmail.com <mailto:desmo900cr@gmail.com> > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #

I mean, you're responding to chatter no? Meh - Pecco made them both look silly. What a ride! Too bad the bike let him down though... Pags On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 5:23 PM Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > Damn no chatter about the race? > > What happened to Factory bound Miller? Yeeeep Dovi top Ducati rider, Yet > again, > > Peco Taka Morbi were pretty impressive.. too bad for their mechanical > issues.. > > I’ve read that there’s a Michelin recipe that can help with the chemical > reaction in the tyres? > > > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 9:07 AM stephen abramson <desmo900cr@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > For me, it was the excitement of watching Rossi have pace at the > beginning > > and through the race as well, even saying what you wish about attrition, > > because you know what they say about finishing……… also being 64 yrs young > > like KK, it continues to thrill me to see a 41 yr old have the skill and > > stamina to achieve results like this, even when it's not hot as snot. (I > > was at Laguna as well as a heat reference). It was priceless seeing him > > wave to the “crowd” after the race! > > > > I’ll bet there’s a lot of Yamaha team members fretting over the engine > > failures. The Duc motor going south as well was a shame for Peco. We > don’t > > always hear what the cause of failure was at this level of racing, but > > might it have simply been a heat related issue both this weekend and > last? > > > > Looking forward to more racing! Tough to make pics for the fantasy > league! > > > > STeve > >

> I’ve read that there’s a Michelin recipe that can help with the chemical > reaction in the tyres? I read on the Motogp facebook page that it was basically just scrubbing in a new set of tires. Scub it in, let it cool down, then put it back on the warmers before the race. Mario ________________________________ From: Ducati <ducati-bounces@list.ducati.net> on behalf of Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 4:32 PM To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> Subject: Re: [Ducati] Andalucía SPOILER (apologies to Stephen) I > Damn no chatter about the race? > > What happened to Factory bound Miller? Yeeeep Dovi top Ducati rider, Yet > again, > > Peco Taka Morbi were pretty impressive.. too bad for their mechanical > issues.. > > I’ve read that there’s a Michelin recipe that can help with the chemical > reaction in the tyres? > > > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 9:07 AM stephen abramson <desmo900cr@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > For me, it was the excitement of watching Rossi have pace at the > beginning > > and through the race as well, even saying what you wish about attrition, > > because you know what they say about finishing……… also being 64 yrs young > > like KK, it continues to thrill me to see a 41 yr old have the skill and > > stamina to achieve results like this, even when it's not hot as snot. (I > > was at Laguna as well as a heat reference). It was priceless seeing him > > wave to the “crowd” after the race! > > > > I’ll bet there’s a lot of Yamaha team members fretting over the engine > > failures. The Duc motor going south as well was a shame for Peco. We > don’t > > always hear what the cause of failure was at this level of racing, but > > might it have simply been a heat related issue both this weekend and > last? > > > > Looking forward to more racing! Tough to make pics for the fantasy > league! > > > > STeve > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: http://www.ductalk.com/ and https://www.facebook.com/ducnet _____________________ Ducati mailing list Ducati@list.ducati.net http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net Mailto: mariobaroz@hotmail.com

Game over. MM93 more surgery. Will miss BRNO and possibly the next. It’s your chance Dovi!! Viñales? Quartararo 2020 *Champion If he continues to show the rest how to ride a GP bike. :P 😂 -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #

Well, this sucks. I know it is all part of the game, but victories for anyone else would be sweeter if they were also beating Marquez. Still, it might prove to be an interesting season, short, intense. I hope Rossi can at least podium a few more times, so we can watch him greet the empty grandstands in celebration again. On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 13:19, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > Game over. > > MM93 more surgery. > > Will miss BRNO and possibly the next. > > It’s your chance Dovi!! Viñales? > > Quartararo 2020 *Champion If he continues to show the rest how to ride a GP > bike. :P > > 😂 > > > > > -- > sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >

So uh, Dovi out yet, Pecco in 2021? Rumours..rumours.. On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 5:44 PM Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, this sucks. I know it is all part of the game, but victories for > anyone else would be sweeter if they were also beating Marquez. > Still, it might prove to be an interesting season, short, intense. I hope > Rossi can at least podium a few more times, so we can watch him greet the > empty grandstands in celebration again. > > On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 13:19, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Game over. > > > > MM93 more surgery. > > > > Will miss BRNO and possibly the next. > > > > It’s your chance Dovi!! Viñales? > > > > Quartararo 2020 *Champion If he continues to show the rest how to ride a > GP > > bike. :P > > > > 😂 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #