https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/treasure-trove-includes-record-for-almost-all-land-in-ireland-1.4762067

Hello Listers Irish Land Claims Commission See news item in the Irish Times as below https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/treasure-trove-includes-record-for-almost-all-land-in-ireland-1.4762067 Also at https://www.historyireland.com/volume-22/records-irish-land-commission/ Anyone with insight or experience as to whether there are records for county Tyrone, Donegal, Londonderry still “hidden” amongst the papers of the Irish Land Claims Commission? If so, how do we access them, how can we assist in enabling these too to be digitised and shared? Finding and releasing these would make a wonderful “Community Project” for 2022! Kind regards Dave Mitchell Cape Town South Africa

Dave I am not sure if there are any land records for these counties lurking in the Irish Land Commission records, unless perhaps they were cross border estates. I know that most of the records for the counties you mention were transferred to the Public Record Office in Belfast quite some time ago. They are not digitised unfortunately and I have not used them, because I didn't know of their existence until a year ago, until Dr Des McCabe gave a Zoom talk about them. They are open to in-person researchers, unlike those in Dublin. Evelyn Cardwell ------ Original Message ------ From: "Dave Mitchell via CoTyroneList" <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> To: "Co. Tyrone List" <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> Cc: "Séamus Doherty" <derrydoherty@btinternet.com>; "Dave Mitchell" <dm60@mweb.co.za> Sent: Sunday, 2 Jan, 22 At 15:54 Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Irish Land Claims Commission - Anything for co. Tyrone and Derry ....? Hello Listers Irish Land Claims Commission See news item in the Irish Times as below https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/treasure-trove-includes-record-for-almost-all-land-in-ireland-1.4762067 <https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/treasure-trove-includes-record-for-almost-all-land-in-ireland-1.4762067> Also at https://www.historyireland.com/volume-22/records-irish-land-commission/ <https://www.historyireland.com/volume-22/records-irish-land-commission/> Anyone with insight or experience as to whether there are records for county Tyrone, Donegal, Londonderry still “hidden” amongst the papers of the Irish Land Claims Commission? If so, how do we access them, how can we assist in enabling these too to be digitised and shared? Finding and releasing these would make a wonderful “Community Project” for 2022! Kind regards Dave Mitchell Cape Town South Africa ================================= Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com List Archive - https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com <https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com> Join the list by sending an email to - cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com To receive the Digest version, send an email to - cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to - cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com =================================

Very interesting, Evelyn. Is it possible to give us and details for locating these records at PRONI? Happy 2022 Everyone! Jim McKane Kitchener, Ontario On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 11:27 AM EVELYN CARDWELL via CoTyroneList < cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote: > Dave > > > I am not sure if there are any land records for these counties lurking in > the Irish Land Commission records, unless perhaps they were cross border > estates. > > > I know that most of the records for the counties you mention were > transferred to the Public Record Office in Belfast quite some time ago. > > > They are not digitised unfortunately and I have not used them, because I > didn't know of their existence until a year ago, until Dr Des McCabe gave a > Zoom talk about them. They are open to in-person researchers, unlike those > in Dublin. > > > Evelyn Cardwell > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Dave Mitchell via CoTyroneList" < > cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> > To: "Co. Tyrone List" <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> > Cc: "Séamus Doherty" <derrydoherty@btinternet.com>; "Dave Mitchell" < > dm60@mweb.co.za> > Sent: Sunday, 2 Jan, 22 At 15:54 > Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Irish Land Claims Commission - Anything for > co. Tyrone and Derry ....? > > Hello Listers > > *Irish Land Claims Commission* > > See news item in the Irish Times as below > > > https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/treasure-trove-includes-record-for-almost-all-land-in-ireland-1.4762067 > > Also at *https://www.historyireland.com/volume-22/records-irish-land-commission/ > <https://www.historyireland.com/volume-22/records-irish-land-commission/>* > > Anyone with insight or experience as to whether there are records for > county Tyrone, Donegal, Londonderry still “hidden” amongst the papers of > the Irish Land Claims Commission? > > If so, how do we access them, how can we assist in enabling these too to > be digitised and shared? > > Finding and releasing these would make a wonderful “Community Project” for > 2022! > > Kind regards > > Dave Mitchell > > Cape Town > > South Africa > > ------------------------------ > ================================= > Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com > List Archive - > https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com > Join the list by sending an email to - > cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > To receive the Digest version, send an email to - > cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com > Unsubscribe by sending an email to - > cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > ================================= > > ================================= > Send a Message to the List - cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com > List Archive - > https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com > Join the list by sending an email to - > cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > To receive the Digest version, send an email to - > cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com > Unsubscribe by sending an email to - > cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > =================================

Very interesting. Digitising is duplication, which is a safe guard to accidental destruction of the originals, such as what happened to the records lost in the Four Courts fire. An essential precaution in any case and deserving of some urgency. Wider public access will be more popular, but of lower priority to having a second copy held elsewhere. Gordon On 3/01/2022 2:24 am, Dave Mitchell via CoTyroneList wrote: > > Hello Listers > > *_Irish Land Claims Commission_* > > *__* > > See news item in the Irish Times as below > > https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/treasure-trove-includes-record-for-almost-all-land-in-ireland-1.4762067 > > Also at > _https://www.historyireland.com/volume-22/records-irish-land-commission/**_ > > *__* > > Anyone with insight or experience as to whether there are records for > county Tyrone, Donegal, Londonderry still “hidden” amongst the papers > of the Irish Land Claims Commission? > > If so, how do we access them, how can we assist in enabling these too > to be digitised and shared? > > Finding and releasing these would make a wonderful “Community Project” > for 2022! > > Kind regards > > Dave Mitchell > > Cape Town > > South Africa > > > ================================= > Send a Message to the List -cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com > List Archive -https://list.cotyroneireland.com/empathy/list/cotyronelist.list.cotyroneireland.com > Join the list by sending an email to -cotyronelist-subscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > To receive the Digest version, send an email to -cotyronelist-owner@list.cotyroneireland.com > Unsubscribe by sending an email to -cotyronelist-unsubscribe@list.cotyroneireland.com > =================================