As I said, qualifying don’t mean jackfruit. Oliveira was 8th. Look where he ended up today. On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:33 PM Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > come-on Pags, Lan is dead on target, that is, of course, if staying on the > bike and not crashing are ignored as part of race craft. > > Wait, maybe we're all missing something. If you discount crashing, and > include spectacular moments as part of your measure, then perhaps we should > consider Zarco as the greatest current MotoGP rider. Yes, MM93, has a > stellar history of phenomenal saves, always worth a second look. But, his > performances pail in comparison to the incredible performance JZ5 initiated > last Sunday. Zarco is the ZingBangJeezus! king of gluing our eyes to the > screen. Marquez is a mere sideshow. > > It all depends on how you measure. > > On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 18:03, Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Did someone steal Lan’s med again? >> >> > On Aug 22, 2020, at 6:26 PM, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >  >> > Caught up? Can’t wait for this MM guy to be 100% and spank them all one >> by one. Did you see what he did in Spain before he made a mistake and F’d >> himself? Who can ride like that?? >> > >> > Nah man, qualifying, fps ain’t sh!t come Sunday. They ain’t got the >> same race craft as MM. Yes he crashed and unfortunately his bike F’d him up >> for good measure— it happens. Happened to VR too and I still find him the >> best. He just gotta shut the hell up sometimes! >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >> > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #

If qualifying don't mean jackshit, why do riders put so much effort into those 15 minutes of meaningless activity? BTW, Olivera started from 4th in the second race, the one that counts. He was in 3rd for most of it until 43 and 44 opened the door for him to pass. In the first race, where he did start from 8th, the board had him at 7th when the race was red flagged. Somehow, he got up to 4th between the crash and the restart (I have not bothered to figure this out). So, for the most of two parts of today's race, he managed to advance one place each part, till he got the gift at the end. Not to take away from Oli, he was there, ready, anticipated the opening and executed that pass beautifully. An exciting finish to an eventful race. Or, if you mean a qualifying lap does not equate to race victories, I would ask your bff Marquez if there is any connection between his astounding qualifying performances and his race results. On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 15:30, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > As I said, qualifying don’t mean jackfruit. > > Oliveira was 8th. Look where he ended up today. > > > > > On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:33 PM Kevin Kachadourian < > kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > >> come-on Pags, Lan is dead on target, that is, of course, if staying on >> the bike and not crashing are ignored as part of race craft. >> >> Wait, maybe we're all missing something. If you discount crashing, and >> include spectacular moments as part of your measure, then perhaps we should >> consider Zarco as the greatest current MotoGP rider. Yes, MM93, has a >> stellar history of phenomenal saves, always worth a second look. But, his >> performances pail in comparison to the incredible performance JZ5 initiated >> last Sunday. Zarco is the ZingBangJeezus! king of gluing our eyes to the >> screen. Marquez is a mere sideshow. >> >> It all depends on how you measure. >> >> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 18:03, Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Did someone steal Lan’s med again? >>> >>> > On Aug 22, 2020, at 6:26 PM, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >  >>> > Caught up? Can’t wait for this MM guy to be 100% and spank them all >>> one by one. Did you see what he did in Spain before he made a mistake and >>> F’d himself? Who can ride like that?? >>> > >>> > Nah man, qualifying, fps ain’t sh!t come Sunday. They ain’t got the >>> same race craft as MM. Yes he crashed and unfortunately his bike F’d him up >>> for good measure— it happens. Happened to VR too and I still find him the >>> best. He just gotta shut the hell up sometimes! >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>> and >>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>> _____________________ >>> Ducati mailing list >>> Ducati@list.ducati.net >>> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >>> Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >>> >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com >> > -- > sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >

KK, you must be watching virtual races again per Lan. Clearly if the other 8 guys weren’t there, Rossi would have won too. Pags > On Aug 23, 2020, at 7:04 PM, Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > > BTW, Olivera started from 4th in the second race, the one that counts. He was in 3rd for most of it until 43 and 44 opened the door for him to pass. In the first race, where he did start from 8th, the board had him at 7th when the race was red flagged. Somehow, he got up to 4th between the crash and the restart (I have not bothered to figure this out).

Wait, didn't Rossi slip stream Oli and finish 2nd. Maybe I am watching virtual races. But, even in a virtual race, how does a rider who is 7th when the race is red flagged end up 4th on the restart grid? On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 16:07, Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > KK, you must be watching virtual races again per Lan. Clearly if the > other 8 guys weren’t there, Rossi would have won too. > > Pags > > > On Aug 23, 2020, at 7:04 PM, Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > BTW, Olivera started from 4th in the second race, the one that counts. > He was in 3rd for most of it until 43 and 44 opened the door for him to > pass. In the first race, where he did start from 8th, the board had him at > 7th when the race was red flagged. Somehow, he got up to 4th between the > crash and the restart (I have not bothered to figure this out). > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >

Because they think they can win when they’re up front lol Marquez is up front most of the time because he’s just naturally fast. And its better to be up front so the rider doesn’t get pushed around by hungry slow sharks. “Less traffic” and less work. Just because a rider poles doesn’t mean they’ll win. Remember rossi back then? Sucked at qualifying but yet still won many races. MM93 can win even when he’s in last position. But naturally fast and can pole most of the time. He’s fast and smart. You don’t think so? Oliveira won fair and square. Doesn’t matter if it was gifted as you called it. He rode well and smart as he deserved it more than Pol. Pol Will be kicking himself in the ass when he moves to Honda. They value him at KTM. Honda will spit him out. Stupid move.. Honda just bought him out to try and weaken KTM. He will never win with the Honda! In Crutchlow’s words “if you’re fighting with your bike now, wait till you jump on a Honda” On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 7:04 PM Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > If qualifying don't mean jackshit, why do riders put so much effort into > those 15 minutes of meaningless activity? > > BTW, Olivera started from 4th in the second race, the one that counts. He > was in 3rd for most of it until 43 and 44 opened the door for him to pass. > In the first race, where he did start from 8th, the board had him at 7th > when the race was red flagged. Somehow, he got up to 4th between the crash > and the restart (I have not bothered to figure this out). So, for the most > of two parts of today's race, he managed to advance one place each part, > till he got the gift at the end. Not to take away from Oli, he was there, > ready, anticipated the opening and executed that pass beautifully. An > exciting finish to an eventful race. > > Or, if you mean a qualifying lap does not equate to race victories, I > would ask your bff Marquez if there is any connection between his > astounding qualifying performances and his race results. > > On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 15:30, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > >> As I said, qualifying don’t mean jackfruit. >> >> Oliveira was 8th. Look where he ended up today. >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:33 PM Kevin Kachadourian < >> kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> come-on Pags, Lan is dead on target, that is, of course, if staying on >>> the bike and not crashing are ignored as part of race craft. >>> >>> Wait, maybe we're all missing something. If you discount crashing, and >>> include spectacular moments as part of your measure, then perhaps we should >>> consider Zarco as the greatest current MotoGP rider. Yes, MM93, has a >>> stellar history of phenomenal saves, always worth a second look. But, his >>> performances pail in comparison to the incredible performance JZ5 initiated >>> last Sunday. Zarco is the ZingBangJeezus! king of gluing our eyes to the >>> screen. Marquez is a mere sideshow. >>> >>> It all depends on how you measure. >>> >>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 18:03, Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Did someone steal Lan’s med again? >>>> >>>> > On Aug 22, 2020, at 6:26 PM, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >  >>>> > Caught up? Can’t wait for this MM guy to be 100% and spank them all >>>> one by one. Did you see what he did in Spain before he made a mistake and >>>> F’d himself? Who can ride like that?? >>>> > >>>> > Nah man, qualifying, fps ain’t sh!t come Sunday. They ain’t got the >>>> same race craft as MM. Yes he crashed and unfortunately his bike F’d him up >>>> for good measure— it happens. Happened to VR too and I still find him the >>>> best. He just gotta shut the hell up sometimes! >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>>> and >>>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>>> _____________________ >>>> Ducati mailing list >>>> Ducati@list.ducati.net >>>> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >>>> Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>> and >>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>> _____________________ >>> Ducati mailing list >>> Ducati@list.ducati.net >>> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >>> Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com >>> >> -- >> sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >> > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #