So this is Very Very Crazy…

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Vicki Smith
Thu, Aug 26, 2021 1:49 PM

Anybody following the MisterHelmet account on Twitter? I do, and his seemingly credible accounting about the Rossi deal with the Saudi prince has much or maybe all of it being some kind of scam on Rossi. He’s been trying to get attention about it all summer. He claims that the deal is with a guy that doesn’t exist and the sponsor (Aramco) doesn’t have any kind of contract with Rossi, Or Tanal. This is supposed to be a billion dollar deal with theme park and race team and more. All run with no web page, employees and only a gmail account. It’s a pretty big WTF. The whole thing has finally made its way into the light and there is supposed to be some sort of big breaking news coming soon.

Here’s the gist of it:

https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/

Certainly this will blow back on Ducati if it’s true in any way. The racing team will be millions short in funding. All I have read from Rossi is he is used to trusting people. Anyway it’s super super super crazy and whatever is going on will be revealed soon.

Vicki

Anybody following the MisterHelmet account on Twitter? I do, and his seemingly credible accounting about the Rossi deal with the Saudi prince has much or maybe all of it being some kind of scam on Rossi. He’s been trying to get attention about it all summer. He claims that the deal is with a guy that doesn’t exist and the sponsor (Aramco) doesn’t have any kind of contract with Rossi, Or Tanal. This is supposed to be a billion dollar deal with theme park and race team and more. All run with no web page, employees and only a gmail account. It’s a pretty big WTF. The whole thing has finally made its way into the light and there is supposed to be some sort of big breaking news coming soon. Here’s the gist of it: https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/ Certainly this will blow back on Ducati if it’s true in any way. The racing team will be millions short in funding. All I have read from Rossi is he is used to trusting people. Anyway it’s super super super crazy and whatever is going on will be revealed soon. Vicki
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Paul March
Thu, Aug 26, 2021 2:00 PM

Mister Helmet has done a lot of research, I am hoping VR46 can still field
a motogp team when the dust settles.

Paul

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 9:50 AM Vicki Smith vicki@ducati.net wrote:

Anybody following the MisterHelmet account on Twitter? I do, and his
seemingly credible accounting about the Rossi deal with the Saudi prince
has much or maybe all of it being some kind of scam on Rossi. He’s been
trying to get attention about it all summer. He claims that the deal is
with a guy that doesn’t exist and the sponsor (Aramco) doesn’t have any
kind of contract with Rossi, Or Tanal. This is supposed to be a billion
dollar deal with theme park and race team and more. All run with no web
page, employees and only a gmail account. It’s a pretty big WTF. The whole
thing has finally made its way into the light and there is supposed to be
some sort of big breaking news coming soon.

Here’s the gist of it:

https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/

Certainly this will blow back on Ducati if it’s true in any way. The
racing team will be millions short in funding. All I have read from Rossi
is he is used to trusting people. Anyway it’s super super super crazy and
whatever is going on will be revealed soon.

Vicki

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Mister Helmet has done a lot of research, I am hoping VR46 can still field a motogp team when the dust settles. Paul On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 9:50 AM Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: > Anybody following the MisterHelmet account on Twitter? I do, and his > seemingly credible accounting about the Rossi deal with the Saudi prince > has much or maybe all of it being some kind of scam on Rossi. He’s been > trying to get attention about it all summer. He claims that the deal is > with a guy that doesn’t exist and the sponsor (Aramco) doesn’t have any > kind of contract with Rossi, Or Tanal. This is supposed to be a billion > dollar deal with theme park and race team and more. All run with no web > page, employees and only a gmail account. It’s a pretty big WTF. The whole > thing has finally made its way into the light and there is supposed to be > some sort of big breaking news coming soon. > > Here’s the gist of it: > > > https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/ > > Certainly this will blow back on Ducati if it’s true in any way. The > racing team will be millions short in funding. All I have read from Rossi > is he is used to trusting people. Anyway it’s super super super crazy and > whatever is going on will be revealed soon. > > Vicki > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s
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Garth Williams
Thu, Aug 26, 2021 6:42 PM

Vicki,

That is indeed bizarre. That said, MisterHelmet seems to have done his
research here and there are more than enough reasons to be doubtful. It's
one thing to talk big and quite another to shell out tens of millions of
Euros to start a team.

The biggest question to me is why? If this is all someone's fantasy, why go
THIS far?  What exactly is to be gained by signing deals with zero
funding?  And who signs such a deal with a new company without proof such
as funds held in a real bank? The reputational damage that could be
suffered by Rossi is immense.

Garth Williams
m 832.731.1968
garthfw@gmail.com garthw@gmail.com

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 8:50 AM Vicki Smith vicki@ducati.net wrote:

Anybody following the MisterHelmet account on Twitter? I do, and his
seemingly credible accounting about the Rossi deal with the Saudi prince
has much or maybe all of it being some kind of scam on Rossi. He’s been
trying to get attention about it all summer. He claims that the deal is
with a guy that doesn’t exist and the sponsor (Aramco) doesn’t have any
kind of contract with Rossi, Or Tanal. This is supposed to be a billion
dollar deal with theme park and race team and more. All run with no web
page, employees and only a gmail account. It’s a pretty big WTF. The whole
thing has finally made its way into the light and there is supposed to be
some sort of big breaking news coming soon.

Here’s the gist of it:

https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/

Certainly this will blow back on Ducati if it’s true in any way. The
racing team will be millions short in funding. All I have read from Rossi
is he is used to trusting people. Anyway it’s super super super crazy and
whatever is going on will be revealed soon.

Vicki

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Vicki, That is indeed bizarre. That said, MisterHelmet seems to have done his research here and there are more than enough reasons to be doubtful. It's one thing to talk big and quite another to shell out tens of millions of Euros to start a team. The biggest question to me is why? If this is all someone's fantasy, why go THIS far? What exactly is to be gained by signing deals with zero funding? And who signs such a deal with a new company without proof such as funds held in a real bank? The reputational damage that could be suffered by Rossi is immense. *Garth Williams* m 832.731.1968 garthfw@gmail.com <garthw@gmail.com> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 8:50 AM Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: > Anybody following the MisterHelmet account on Twitter? I do, and his > seemingly credible accounting about the Rossi deal with the Saudi prince > has much or maybe all of it being some kind of scam on Rossi. He’s been > trying to get attention about it all summer. He claims that the deal is > with a guy that doesn’t exist and the sponsor (Aramco) doesn’t have any > kind of contract with Rossi, Or Tanal. This is supposed to be a billion > dollar deal with theme park and race team and more. All run with no web > page, employees and only a gmail account. It’s a pretty big WTF. The whole > thing has finally made its way into the light and there is supposed to be > some sort of big breaking news coming soon. > > Here’s the gist of it: > > > https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/ > > Certainly this will blow back on Ducati if it’s true in any way. The > racing team will be millions short in funding. All I have read from Rossi > is he is used to trusting people. Anyway it’s super super super crazy and > whatever is going on will be revealed soon. > > Vicki > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s
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Sandro Reis
Thu, Aug 26, 2021 10:07 PM

Just one successful phone call to Rossi's camp, which directed the
questions to another person who didn't return the calls in time to publish?
They need to put someone.on Rossi's camp on the record with positive,
substantive statements, which could prove embarrassing later if the thing
falls tru- unless ultimately they aim to protect the brand? Huh

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 11:41 Garth Williams garthfw@gmail.com wrote:

Vicki,

That is indeed bizarre. That said, MisterHelmet seems to have done his
research here and there are more than enough reasons to be doubtful. It's
one thing to talk big and quite another to shell out tens of millions of
Euros to start a team.

The biggest question to me is why? If this is all someone's fantasy, why
go THIS far?  What exactly is to be gained by signing deals with zero
funding?  And who signs such a deal with a new company without proof such
as funds held in a real bank? The reputational damage that could be
suffered by Rossi is immense.

Garth Williams
m 832.731.1968
garthfw@gmail.com garthw@gmail.com

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 8:50 AM Vicki Smith vicki@ducati.net wrote:

Anybody following the MisterHelmet account on Twitter? I do, and his
seemingly credible accounting about the Rossi deal with the Saudi prince
has much or maybe all of it being some kind of scam on Rossi. He’s been
trying to get attention about it all summer. He claims that the deal is
with a guy that doesn’t exist and the sponsor (Aramco) doesn’t have any
kind of contract with Rossi, Or Tanal. This is supposed to be a billion
dollar deal with theme park and race team and more. All run with no web
page, employees and only a gmail account. It’s a pretty big WTF. The whole
thing has finally made its way into the light and there is supposed to be
some sort of big breaking news coming soon.

Here’s the gist of it:

https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/

Certainly this will blow back on Ducati if it’s true in any way. The
racing team will be millions short in funding. All I have read from Rossi
is he is used to trusting people. Anyway it’s super super super crazy and
whatever is going on will be revealed soon.

Vicki

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Just one successful phone call to Rossi's camp, which directed the questions to another person who didn't return the calls in time to publish? They need to put someone.on Rossi's camp on the record with positive, substantive statements, which could prove embarrassing later if the thing falls tru- unless ultimately they aim to protect the brand? Huh On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 11:41 Garth Williams <garthfw@gmail.com> wrote: > Vicki, > > That is indeed bizarre. That said, MisterHelmet seems to have done his > research here and there are more than enough reasons to be doubtful. It's > one thing to talk big and quite another to shell out tens of millions of > Euros to start a team. > > The biggest question to me is why? If this is all someone's fantasy, why > go THIS far? What exactly is to be gained by signing deals with zero > funding? And who signs such a deal with a new company without proof such > as funds held in a real bank? The reputational damage that could be > suffered by Rossi is immense. > > > *Garth Williams* > m 832.731.1968 > garthfw@gmail.com <garthw@gmail.com> > > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 8:50 AM Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: > >> Anybody following the MisterHelmet account on Twitter? I do, and his >> seemingly credible accounting about the Rossi deal with the Saudi prince >> has much or maybe all of it being some kind of scam on Rossi. He’s been >> trying to get attention about it all summer. He claims that the deal is >> with a guy that doesn’t exist and the sponsor (Aramco) doesn’t have any >> kind of contract with Rossi, Or Tanal. This is supposed to be a billion >> dollar deal with theme park and race team and more. All run with no web >> page, employees and only a gmail account. It’s a pretty big WTF. The whole >> thing has finally made its way into the light and there is supposed to be >> some sort of big breaking news coming soon. >> >> Here’s the gist of it: >> >> >> https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/ >> >> Certainly this will blow back on Ducati if it’s true in any way. The >> racing team will be millions short in funding. All I have read from Rossi >> is he is used to trusting people. Anyway it’s super super super crazy and >> whatever is going on will be revealed soon. >> >> Vicki >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >> Mailto: %(user_address)s > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s
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Vicki Smith
Fri, Aug 27, 2021 12:23 AM

I'm still looking for the angle that makes money for this guy. Like
Garth said, WHY? He released another statement promising a contract by
the end of the month, because, shocker, it's been delayed...
Vicki

Sandro Reis wrote on 8/26/2021 6:07 PM:

Just one successful phone call to Rossi's camp, which directed the
questions to another person who didn't return the calls in time to
publish? They need to put someone.on Rossi's camp on the record with
positive, substantive statements, which could prove embarrassing later
if the thing falls tru- unless ultimately they aim to protect the
brand? Huh

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 11:41 Garth Williams <garthfw@gmail.com
mailto:garthfw@gmail.com> wrote:

 Vicki,

 That is indeed bizarre. That said, MisterHelmet seems to have done
 his research here and there are more than enough reasons to be
 doubtful. It's one thing to talk big and quite another to shell
 out tens of millions of Euros to start a team.

 The biggest question to me is why? If this is all someone's
 fantasy, why go THIS far?  What exactly is to be gained by signing
 deals with zero funding? And who signs such a deal with a new
 company without proof such as funds held in a real bank? The
 reputational damage that could be suffered by Rossi is immense.
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *Garth Williams*
 m 832.731.1968
 garthfw@gmail.com <mailto:garthw@gmail.com>


 On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 8:50 AM Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net
 <mailto:vicki@ducati.net>> wrote:

     Anybody following the MisterHelmet account on Twitter? I do,
     and his seemingly credible accounting about the Rossi deal
     with the Saudi prince has much or maybe all of it being some
     kind of scam on Rossi. He’s been trying to get attention about
     it all summer. He claims that the deal is with a guy that
     doesn’t exist and the sponsor (Aramco) doesn’t have any kind
     of contract with Rossi, Or Tanal. This is supposed to be a
     billion dollar deal with theme park and race team and more.
     All run with no web page, employees and only a gmail account.
     It’s a pretty big WTF. The whole thing has finally made its
     way into the light and there is supposed to be some sort of
     big breaking news coming soon.

     Here’s the gist of it:

     https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/

     Certainly this will blow back on Ducati if it’s true in any
     way. The racing team will be millions short in funding. All I
     have read from Rossi is he is used to trusting people. Anyway
     it’s super super super crazy and whatever is going on will be
     revealed soon.

     Vicki




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I'm still looking for the angle that makes money for this guy. Like Garth said, WHY? He released another statement promising a contract by the end of the month, because, shocker, it's been delayed... Vicki Sandro Reis wrote on 8/26/2021 6:07 PM: > Just one successful phone call to Rossi's camp, which directed the > questions to another person who didn't return the calls in time to > publish? They need to put someone.on Rossi's camp on the record with > positive, substantive statements, which could prove embarrassing later > if the thing falls tru- unless ultimately they aim to protect the > brand? Huh > > > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 11:41 Garth Williams <garthfw@gmail.com > <mailto:garthfw@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Vicki, > > That is indeed bizarre. That said, MisterHelmet seems to have done > his research here and there are more than enough reasons to be > doubtful. It's one thing to talk big and quite another to shell > out tens of millions of Euros to start a team. > > The biggest question to me is why? If this is all someone's > fantasy, why go THIS far?  What exactly is to be gained by signing > deals with zero funding? And who signs such a deal with a new > company without proof such as funds held in a real bank? The > reputational damage that could be suffered by Rossi is immense. > * > * > * > * > *Garth Williams* > m 832.731.1968 > garthfw@gmail.com <mailto:garthw@gmail.com> > > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 8:50 AM Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net > <mailto:vicki@ducati.net>> wrote: > > Anybody following the MisterHelmet account on Twitter? I do, > and his seemingly credible accounting about the Rossi deal > with the Saudi prince has much or maybe all of it being some > kind of scam on Rossi. He’s been trying to get attention about > it all summer. He claims that the deal is with a guy that > doesn’t exist and the sponsor (Aramco) doesn’t have any kind > of contract with Rossi, Or Tanal. This is supposed to be a > billion dollar deal with theme park and race team and more. > All run with no web page, employees and only a gmail account. > It’s a pretty big WTF. The whole thing has finally made its > way into the light and there is supposed to be some sort of > big breaking news coming soon. > > Here’s the gist of it: > > https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/ > > Certainly this will blow back on Ducati if it’s true in any > way. The racing team will be millions short in funding. All I > have read from Rossi is he is used to trusting people. Anyway > it’s super super super crazy and whatever is going on will be > revealed soon. > > Vicki > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > <mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net> > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > <mailto:ducati-leave@list.ducati.net> > Mailto: %(user_address)s > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > <mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net> > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > <mailto:ducati-leave@list.ducati.net> > Mailto: %(user_address)s > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s
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Vicki Smith
Sat, Aug 28, 2021 1:46 AM

On Aug 26, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Vicki Smith vicki@ducati.net wrote:

 I'm still looking for the angle that makes money for this guy. Like Garth said, WHY? He released another statement promising a contract by the end of the month, because, shocker, it's been delayed...
Vicki

Sandro Reis wrote on 8/26/2021 6:07 PM:

Just one successful phone call to Rossi's camp, which directed the questions to another person who didn't return the calls in time to publish? They need to put someone.on Rossi's camp on the record with positive, substantive statements, which could prove embarrassing later if the thing falls tru- unless ultimately they aim to protect the brand? Huh

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 11:41 Garth Williams garthfw@gmail.com wrote:

Vicki,

That is indeed bizarre. That said, MisterHelmet seems to have done his research here and there are more than enough reasons to be doubtful. It's one thing to talk big and quite another to shell out tens of millions of Euros to start a team.

The biggest question to me is why? If this is all someone's fantasy, why go THIS far?  What exactly is to be gained by signing deals with zero funding?  And who signs such a deal with a new company without proof such as funds held in a real bank? The reputational damage that could be suffered by Rossi is immense.

Garth Williams
m 832.731.1968
garthfw@gmail.com

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 8:50 AM Vicki Smith vicki@ducati.net wrote:

Anybody following the MisterHelmet account on Twitter? I do, and his seemingly credible accounting about the Rossi deal with the Saudi prince has much or maybe all of it being some kind of scam on Rossi. He’s been trying to get attention about it all summer. He claims that the deal is with a guy that doesn’t exist and the sponsor (Aramco) doesn’t have any kind of contract with Rossi, Or Tanal. This is supposed to be a billion dollar deal with theme park and race team and more. All run with no web page, employees and only a gmail account. It’s a pretty big WTF. The whole thing has finally made its way into the light and there is supposed to be some sort of big breaking news coming soon.

Here’s the gist of it:

https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/

Certainly this will blow back on Ducati if it’s true in any way. The racing team will be millions short in funding. All I have read from Rossi is he is used to trusting people. Anyway it’s super super super crazy and whatever is going on will be revealed soon.

Vicki

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The latest: https://www.misterhelmet.com/tanal-and-vr46-the-farce-at-its-peak-two-payments-have-already-been-postponed-tanals-castle-of-lies-collapses/ Vicki > On Aug 26, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: > >  I'm still looking for the angle that makes money for this guy. Like Garth said, WHY? He released another statement promising a contract by the end of the month, because, shocker, it's been delayed... > Vicki > > > Sandro Reis wrote on 8/26/2021 6:07 PM: >> Just one successful phone call to Rossi's camp, which directed the questions to another person who didn't return the calls in time to publish? They need to put someone.on Rossi's camp on the record with positive, substantive statements, which could prove embarrassing later if the thing falls tru- unless ultimately they aim to protect the brand? Huh >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 11:41 Garth Williams <garthfw@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Vicki, >>> >>> That is indeed bizarre. That said, MisterHelmet seems to have done his research here and there are more than enough reasons to be doubtful. It's one thing to talk big and quite another to shell out tens of millions of Euros to start a team. >>> >>> The biggest question to me is why? If this is all someone's fantasy, why go THIS far? What exactly is to be gained by signing deals with zero funding? And who signs such a deal with a new company without proof such as funds held in a real bank? The reputational damage that could be suffered by Rossi is immense. >>> >>> >>> Garth Williams >>> m 832.731.1968 >>> garthfw@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 8:50 AM Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: >>>> Anybody following the MisterHelmet account on Twitter? I do, and his seemingly credible accounting about the Rossi deal with the Saudi prince has much or maybe all of it being some kind of scam on Rossi. He’s been trying to get attention about it all summer. He claims that the deal is with a guy that doesn’t exist and the sponsor (Aramco) doesn’t have any kind of contract with Rossi, Or Tanal. This is supposed to be a billion dollar deal with theme park and race team and more. All run with no web page, employees and only a gmail account. It’s a pretty big WTF. The whole thing has finally made its way into the light and there is supposed to be some sort of big breaking news coming soon. >>>> >>>> Here’s the gist of it: >>>> >>>> https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/ >>>> >>>> Certainly this will blow back on Ducati if it’s true in any way. The racing team will be millions short in funding. All I have read from Rossi is he is used to trusting people. Anyway it’s super super super crazy and whatever is going on will be revealed soon. >>>> >>>> Vicki >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>>> and >>>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>>> _____________________ >>>> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >>>> Mailto: %(user_address)s >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>> and >>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>> _____________________ >>> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >>> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >>> Mailto: %(user_address)s >> >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >> Mailto: %(user_address)s > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s
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Sat, Aug 28, 2021 11:25 AM

Certainly one of the most bizarre things that’s come across the racing news world in a very long time. It’s hard to believe (according to the article) that things got as far as they did with Rossi et al. You don’t get to where Vale is in life/business being a complete knucklehead and falling prey to made up schemes like this seems to be. We needn’t worry though……… as the press release says, all the final details will be released by Aug 31st. Anxiously waiting……………

STeve

On Aug 26, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Vicki Smith vicki@ducati.net wrote:

 I'm still looking for the angle that makes money for this guy. Like Garth said, WHY? He released another statement promising a contract by the end of the month, because, shocker, it's been delayed...
Vicki

Sandro Reis wrote on 8/26/2021 6:07 PM:

Just one successful phone call to Rossi's camp, which directed the questions to another person who didn't return the calls in time to publish? They need to put someone.on Rossi's camp on the record with positive, substantive statements, which could prove embarrassing later if the thing falls tru- unless ultimately they aim to protect the brand? Huh

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 11:41 Garth Williams <garthfw@gmail.com mailto:garthfw@gmail.com> wrote:
Vicki,

That is indeed bizarre. That said, MisterHelmet seems to have done his research here and there are more than enough reasons to be doubtful. It's one thing to talk big and quite another to shell out tens of millions of Euros to start a team.

The biggest question to me is why? If this is all someone's fantasy, why go THIS far?  What exactly is to be gained by signing deals with zero funding?  And who signs such a deal with a new company without proof such as funds held in a real bank? The reputational damage that could be suffered by Rossi is immense.

Garth Williams
m 832.731.1968
garthfw@gmail.com mailto:garthw@gmail.com

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 8:50 AM Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net mailto:vicki@ducati.net> wrote:
Anybody following the MisterHelmet account on Twitter? I do, and his seemingly credible accounting about the Rossi deal with the Saudi prince has much or maybe all of it being some kind of scam on Rossi. He’s been trying to get attention about it all summer. He claims that the deal is with a guy that doesn’t exist and the sponsor (Aramco) doesn’t have any kind of contract with Rossi, Or Tanal. This is supposed  to be a billion dollar deal with theme park and race team and more. All run with no web page, employees and only a gmail account. It’s a pretty big WTF. The whole thing has finally made its way into the light and there is supposed to be some sort of big breaking news coming soon.

Here’s the gist of it:

https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/ https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/

Certainly this will blow back on Ducati if it’s true in any way. The racing team will be millions short in funding. All I have read from Rossi is he is used to trusting people. Anyway it’s super super super crazy and whatever is going on will be revealed soon.

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Certainly one of the most bizarre things that’s come across the racing news world in a very long time. It’s hard to believe (according to the article) that things got as far as they did with Rossi et al. You don’t get to where Vale is in life/business being a complete knucklehead and falling prey to made up schemes like this seems to be. We needn’t worry though……… as the press release says, all the final details will be released by Aug 31st. Anxiously waiting…………… STeve > On Aug 27, 2021, at 9:46 PM, Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: > > The latest: > > https://www.misterhelmet.com/tanal-and-vr46-the-farce-at-its-peak-two-payments-have-already-been-postponed-tanals-castle-of-lies-collapses/ <https://www.misterhelmet.com/tanal-and-vr46-the-farce-at-its-peak-two-payments-have-already-been-postponed-tanals-castle-of-lies-collapses/> > Vicki > > > >> On Aug 26, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: >> >>  I'm still looking for the angle that makes money for this guy. Like Garth said, WHY? He released another statement promising a contract by the end of the month, because, shocker, it's been delayed... >> Vicki >> >> >> Sandro Reis wrote on 8/26/2021 6:07 PM: >>> Just one successful phone call to Rossi's camp, which directed the questions to another person who didn't return the calls in time to publish? They need to put someone.on Rossi's camp on the record with positive, substantive statements, which could prove embarrassing later if the thing falls tru- unless ultimately they aim to protect the brand? Huh >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 11:41 Garth Williams <garthfw@gmail.com <mailto:garthfw@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> Vicki, >>> >>> That is indeed bizarre. That said, MisterHelmet seems to have done his research here and there are more than enough reasons to be doubtful. It's one thing to talk big and quite another to shell out tens of millions of Euros to start a team. >>> >>> The biggest question to me is why? If this is all someone's fantasy, why go THIS far? What exactly is to be gained by signing deals with zero funding? And who signs such a deal with a new company without proof such as funds held in a real bank? The reputational damage that could be suffered by Rossi is immense. >>> >>> >>> Garth Williams >>> m 832.731.1968 >>> garthfw@gmail.com <mailto:garthw@gmail.com> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 8:50 AM Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net <mailto:vicki@ducati.net>> wrote: >>> Anybody following the MisterHelmet account on Twitter? I do, and his seemingly credible accounting about the Rossi deal with the Saudi prince has much or maybe all of it being some kind of scam on Rossi. He’s been trying to get attention about it all summer. He claims that the deal is with a guy that doesn’t exist and the sponsor (Aramco) doesn’t have any kind of contract with Rossi, Or Tanal. This is supposed to be a billion dollar deal with theme park and race team and more. All run with no web page, employees and only a gmail account. It’s a pretty big WTF. The whole thing has finally made its way into the light and there is supposed to be some sort of big breaking news coming soon. >>> >>> Here’s the gist of it: >>> >>> https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/ <https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/> >>> >>> Certainly this will blow back on Ducati if it’s true in any way. The racing team will be millions short in funding. All I have read from Rossi is he is used to trusting people. Anyway it’s super super super crazy and whatever is going on will be revealed soon. >>> >>> Vicki >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>> http://www.ductalk.com/ <http://www.ductalk.com/> >>> and >>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet <https://www.facebook.com/ducnet> >>> _____________________ >>> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati-leave@list.ducati.net> >>> Mailto: %(user_address)s >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>> http://www.ductalk.com/ <http://www.ductalk.com/> >>> and >>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet <https://www.facebook.com/ducnet> >>> _____________________ >>> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati-leave@list.ducati.net> >>> Mailto: %(user_address)s >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>> http://www.ductalk.com/ <http://www.ductalk.com/> >>> and >>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet <https://www.facebook.com/ducnet> >>> _____________________ >>> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati-leave@list.ducati.net> >>> Mailto: %(user_address)s >> >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >> Mailto: %(user_address)s > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s
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Vicki Smith
Sat, Aug 28, 2021 11:35 AM

Funny though, now that there is very little chance of a big check arriving, I can’t help but notice that VR is going fast again. In this am session he was 7th and only .265 off the fastest bike on track. Admittedly there’s quite a few guys out this weekend but he was faster than a bunch of usually fast guys.

Also, great news for Dovi, looks like he will be back, at Misano on a Yamaha.
Vicki

On Aug 28, 2021, at 7:26 AM, stephen abramson desmo900cr@gmail.com wrote:

Certainly one of the most bizarre things that’s come across the racing news world in a very long time. It’s hard to believe (according to the article) that things got as far as they did with Rossi et al. You don’t get to where Vale is in life/business being a complete knucklehead and falling prey to made up schemes like this seems to be. We needn’t worry though……… as the press release says, all the final details will be released by Aug 31st. Anxiously waiting……………

STeve

On Aug 26, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Vicki Smith vicki@ducati.net wrote:

 I'm still looking for the angle that makes money for this guy. Like Garth said, WHY? He released another statement promising a contract by the end of the month, because, shocker, it's been delayed...
Vicki

Sandro Reis wrote on 8/26/2021 6:07 PM:

Just one successful phone call to Rossi's camp, which directed the questions to another person who didn't return the calls in time to publish? They need to put someone.on Rossi's camp on the record with positive, substantive statements, which could prove embarrassing later if the thing falls tru- unless ultimately they aim to protect the brand? Huh

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 11:41 Garth Williams garthfw@gmail.com wrote:

Vicki,

That is indeed bizarre. That said, MisterHelmet seems to have done his research here and there are more than enough reasons to be doubtful. It's one thing to talk big and quite another to shell out tens of millions of Euros to start a team.

The biggest question to me is why? If this is all someone's fantasy, why go THIS far?  What exactly is to be gained by signing deals with zero funding?  And who signs such a deal with a new company without proof such as funds held in a real bank? The reputational damage that could be suffered by Rossi is immense.

Garth Williams
m 832.731.1968
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On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 8:50 AM Vicki Smith vicki@ducati.net wrote:

Anybody following the MisterHelmet account on Twitter? I do, and his seemingly credible accounting about the Rossi deal with the Saudi prince has much or maybe all of it being some kind of scam on Rossi. He’s been trying to get attention about it all summer. He claims that the deal is with a guy that doesn’t exist and the sponsor (Aramco) doesn’t have any kind of contract with Rossi, Or Tanal. This is supposed to be a billion dollar deal with theme park and race team and more. All run with no web page, employees and only a gmail account. It’s a pretty big WTF. The whole thing has finally made its way into the light and there is supposed to be some sort of big breaking news coming soon.

Here’s the gist of it:

https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/

Certainly this will blow back on Ducati if it’s true in any way. The racing team will be millions short in funding. All I have read from Rossi is he is used to trusting people. Anyway it’s super super super crazy and whatever is going on will be revealed soon.

Vicki

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Funny though, now that there is very little chance of a big check arriving, I can’t help but notice that VR is going fast again. In this am session he was 7th and only .265 off the fastest bike on track. Admittedly there’s quite a few guys out this weekend but he was faster than a bunch of usually fast guys. Also, great news for Dovi, looks like he will be back, at Misano on a Yamaha. Vicki > On Aug 28, 2021, at 7:26 AM, stephen abramson <desmo900cr@gmail.com> wrote: > > Certainly one of the most bizarre things that’s come across the racing news world in a very long time. It’s hard to believe (according to the article) that things got as far as they did with Rossi et al. You don’t get to where Vale is in life/business being a complete knucklehead and falling prey to made up schemes like this seems to be. We needn’t worry though……… as the press release says, all the final details will be released by Aug 31st. Anxiously waiting…………… > > STeve > >> On Aug 27, 2021, at 9:46 PM, Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: >> >> The latest: >> >> https://www.misterhelmet.com/tanal-and-vr46-the-farce-at-its-peak-two-payments-have-already-been-postponed-tanals-castle-of-lies-collapses/ >> Vicki >> >> >> >>>> On Aug 26, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: >>>> >>>  I'm still looking for the angle that makes money for this guy. Like Garth said, WHY? He released another statement promising a contract by the end of the month, because, shocker, it's been delayed... >>> Vicki >>> >>> >>> Sandro Reis wrote on 8/26/2021 6:07 PM: >>>> Just one successful phone call to Rossi's camp, which directed the questions to another person who didn't return the calls in time to publish? They need to put someone.on Rossi's camp on the record with positive, substantive statements, which could prove embarrassing later if the thing falls tru- unless ultimately they aim to protect the brand? Huh >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 11:41 Garth Williams <garthfw@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Vicki, >>>>> >>>>> That is indeed bizarre. That said, MisterHelmet seems to have done his research here and there are more than enough reasons to be doubtful. It's one thing to talk big and quite another to shell out tens of millions of Euros to start a team. >>>>> >>>>> The biggest question to me is why? If this is all someone's fantasy, why go THIS far? What exactly is to be gained by signing deals with zero funding? And who signs such a deal with a new company without proof such as funds held in a real bank? The reputational damage that could be suffered by Rossi is immense. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Garth Williams >>>>> m 832.731.1968 >>>>> garthfw@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 8:50 AM Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: >>>>>> Anybody following the MisterHelmet account on Twitter? I do, and his seemingly credible accounting about the Rossi deal with the Saudi prince has much or maybe all of it being some kind of scam on Rossi. He’s been trying to get attention about it all summer. He claims that the deal is with a guy that doesn’t exist and the sponsor (Aramco) doesn’t have any kind of contract with Rossi, Or Tanal. This is supposed to be a billion dollar deal with theme park and race team and more. All run with no web page, employees and only a gmail account. It’s a pretty big WTF. The whole thing has finally made its way into the light and there is supposed to be some sort of big breaking news coming soon. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here’s the gist of it: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Certainly this will blow back on Ducati if it’s true in any way. The racing team will be millions short in funding. All I have read from Rossi is he is used to trusting people. Anyway it’s super super super crazy and whatever is going on will be revealed soon. >>>>>> >>>>>> Vicki >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>>>>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>>>>> and >>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>>>>> _____________________ >>>>>> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >>>>>> Mailto: %(user_address)s >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>>>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>>>> and >>>>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>>>> _____________________ >>>>> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >>>>> Mailto: %(user_address)s >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>>> and >>>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>>> _____________________ >>>> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >>>> Mailto: %(user_address)s >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>> and >>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>> _____________________ >>> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >>> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >>> Mailto: %(user_address)s >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >> Mailto: %(user_address)s > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s
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Tue, Aug 31, 2021 2:53 PM

On Aug 28, 2021, at 7:36 AM, Vicki Smith vicki@ducati.net wrote:


Funny though, now that there is very little chance of a big check arriving, I can’t help but notice that VR is going fast again. In this am session he was 7th and only .265 off the fastest bike on track. Admittedly there’s quite a few guys out this weekend but he was faster than a bunch of usually fast guys.

Also, great news for Dovi, looks like he will be back, at Misano on a Yamaha.
Vicki

On Aug 28, 2021, at 7:26 AM, stephen abramson desmo900cr@gmail.com wrote:

Certainly one of the most bizarre things that’s come across the racing news world in a very long time. It’s hard to believe (according to the article) that things got as far as they did with Rossi et al. You don’t get to where Vale is in life/business being a complete knucklehead and falling prey to made up schemes like this seems to be. We needn’t worry though……… as the press release says, all the final details will be released by Aug 31st. Anxiously waiting……………

STeve

On Aug 26, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Vicki Smith vicki@ducati.net wrote:

 I'm still looking for the angle that makes money for this guy. Like Garth said, WHY? He released another statement promising a contract by the end of the month, because, shocker, it's been delayed...
Vicki

Sandro Reis wrote on 8/26/2021 6:07 PM:

Just one successful phone call to Rossi's camp, which directed the questions to another person who didn't return the calls in time to publish? They need to put someone.on Rossi's camp on the record with positive, substantive statements, which could prove embarrassing later if the thing falls tru- unless ultimately they aim to protect the brand? Huh

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 11:41 Garth Williams garthfw@gmail.com wrote:

Vicki,

That is indeed bizarre. That said, MisterHelmet seems to have done his research here and there are more than enough reasons to be doubtful. It's one thing to talk big and quite another to shell out tens of millions of Euros to start a team.

The biggest question to me is why? If this is all someone's fantasy, why go THIS far?  What exactly is to be gained by signing deals with zero funding?  And who signs such a deal with a new company without proof such as funds held in a real bank? The reputational damage that could be suffered by Rossi is immense.

Garth Williams
m 832.731.1968
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On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 8:50 AM Vicki Smith vicki@ducati.net wrote:

Anybody following the MisterHelmet account on Twitter? I do, and his seemingly credible accounting about the Rossi deal with the Saudi prince has much or maybe all of it being some kind of scam on Rossi. He’s been trying to get attention about it all summer. He claims that the deal is with a guy that doesn’t exist and the sponsor (Aramco) doesn’t have any kind of contract with Rossi, Or Tanal. This is supposed to be a billion dollar deal with theme park and race team and more. All run with no web page, employees and only a gmail account. It’s a pretty big WTF. The whole thing has finally made its way into the light and there is supposed to be some sort of big breaking news coming soon.

Here’s the gist of it:

https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/

Certainly this will blow back on Ducati if it’s true in any way. The racing team will be millions short in funding. All I have read from Rossi is he is used to trusting people. Anyway it’s super super super crazy and whatever is going on will be revealed soon.

Vicki

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The fix is in: https://www.misterhelmet.com/sky-renews-and-saves-vr46-and-withu-yamaha-saves-srt-heres-how-valentino-gets-out-of-the-bad-business-with-tanal/ > On Aug 28, 2021, at 7:36 AM, Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: > >  > Funny though, now that there is very little chance of a big check arriving, I can’t help but notice that VR is going fast again. In this am session he was 7th and only .265 off the fastest bike on track. Admittedly there’s quite a few guys out this weekend but he was faster than a bunch of usually fast guys. > > Also, great news for Dovi, looks like he will be back, at Misano on a Yamaha. > Vicki > > >>> On Aug 28, 2021, at 7:26 AM, stephen abramson <desmo900cr@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> Certainly one of the most bizarre things that’s come across the racing news world in a very long time. It’s hard to believe (according to the article) that things got as far as they did with Rossi et al. You don’t get to where Vale is in life/business being a complete knucklehead and falling prey to made up schemes like this seems to be. We needn’t worry though……… as the press release says, all the final details will be released by Aug 31st. Anxiously waiting…………… >> >> STeve >> >>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 9:46 PM, Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: >>> >>> The latest: >>> >>> https://www.misterhelmet.com/tanal-and-vr46-the-farce-at-its-peak-two-payments-have-already-been-postponed-tanals-castle-of-lies-collapses/ >>> Vicki >>> >>> >>> >>>>> On Aug 26, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>  I'm still looking for the angle that makes money for this guy. Like Garth said, WHY? He released another statement promising a contract by the end of the month, because, shocker, it's been delayed... >>>> Vicki >>>> >>>> >>>> Sandro Reis wrote on 8/26/2021 6:07 PM: >>>>> Just one successful phone call to Rossi's camp, which directed the questions to another person who didn't return the calls in time to publish? They need to put someone.on Rossi's camp on the record with positive, substantive statements, which could prove embarrassing later if the thing falls tru- unless ultimately they aim to protect the brand? Huh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 11:41 Garth Williams <garthfw@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Vicki, >>>>>> >>>>>> That is indeed bizarre. That said, MisterHelmet seems to have done his research here and there are more than enough reasons to be doubtful. It's one thing to talk big and quite another to shell out tens of millions of Euros to start a team. >>>>>> >>>>>> The biggest question to me is why? If this is all someone's fantasy, why go THIS far? What exactly is to be gained by signing deals with zero funding? And who signs such a deal with a new company without proof such as funds held in a real bank? The reputational damage that could be suffered by Rossi is immense. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Garth Williams >>>>>> m 832.731.1968 >>>>>> garthfw@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 8:50 AM Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: >>>>>>> Anybody following the MisterHelmet account on Twitter? I do, and his seemingly credible accounting about the Rossi deal with the Saudi prince has much or maybe all of it being some kind of scam on Rossi. He’s been trying to get attention about it all summer. He claims that the deal is with a guy that doesn’t exist and the sponsor (Aramco) doesn’t have any kind of contract with Rossi, Or Tanal. This is supposed to be a billion dollar deal with theme park and race team and more. All run with no web page, employees and only a gmail account. It’s a pretty big WTF. The whole thing has finally made its way into the light and there is supposed to be some sort of big breaking news coming soon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here’s the gist of it: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.misterhelmet.com/wheeler-dealers-princes-oilmen-and-suspicious-companies-is-someone-exploiting-vr46-and-valentino-without-their-knowledge/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Certainly this will blow back on Ducati if it’s true in any way. The racing team will be millions short in funding. All I have read from Rossi is he is used to trusting people. Anyway it’s super super super crazy and whatever is going on will be revealed soon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Vicki >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>>>>>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>>>>>> _____________________ >>>>>>> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >>>>>>> Mailto: %(user_address)s >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>>>>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>>>>> and >>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>>>>> _____________________ >>>>>> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >>>>>> Mailto: %(user_address)s >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>>>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>>>> and >>>>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>>>> _____________________ >>>>> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >>>>> Mailto: %(user_address)s >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>>> and >>>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>>> _____________________ >>>> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >>>> Mailto: %(user_address)s >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>> and >>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>> _____________________ >>> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >>> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >>> Mailto: %(user_address)s >> >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >> Mailto: %(user_address)s
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Tue, Aug 31, 2021 3:24 PM

Let's hope he is able to get it done with a reasonable budget.  Vale has
been my favorite rider since the 250cc days, but I wouldn't be able to
stand to see HIS team fail due to a lack of competitive funding.  With SKY
in play, we can at least have high hopes.

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On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 9:53 AM Vicki Smith vicki@ducati.net wrote:

Let's hope he is able to get it done with a reasonable budget. Vale has been my favorite rider since the 250cc days, but I wouldn't be able to stand to see HIS team fail due to a lack of competitive funding. With SKY in play, we can at least have high hopes. *Garth Williams* m 832.731.1968 garthfw@gmail.com <garthw@gmail.com> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 9:53 AM Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: > The fix is in: > > > https://www.misterhelmet.com/sky-renews-and-saves-vr46-and-withu-yamaha-saves-srt-heres-how-valentino-gets-out-of-the-bad-business-with-tanal/ > > >