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Well, besides being absolutely thrilled that Chaz Davies won his last race with the factory Ducati team, it was incredible to see the passion that went along with that win, as well as the departure of him from the team itself. Seeing the messages the crew wrote on his tank/pit board message/tears and emotions in parc ferme, and the subtle body/facial language from him on the podium were amazing to see. The end of an era from a well liked motorsport fellow is always big. Loved it. Hope he’s picked up to ride again. Thanks for the memories, Chaz.
STeve
I agree it was great and a good day for Ducati as well although I'm sad about Chaz leaving the team.
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Well, besides being absolutely thrilled that Chaz Davies won his last race with the factory Ducati team, it was incredible to see the passion that went along with that win, as well as the departure of him from the team itself. Seeing the messages the crew wrote on his tank/pit board message/tears and emotions in parc ferme, and the subtle body/facial language from him on the podium were amazing to see. The end of an era from a well liked motorsport fellow is always big. Loved it. Hope he’s picked up to ride again. Thanks for the memories, Chaz.
STeve
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I felt sad, but very happy for him. So many races, we took so many pictures
together, the whole family have met him and the wife is a big fan.
I'm kind of worried about what's next for him.
The way he was sacked (end of season) doesn't give the current line up much
confidence that won't happen to them also, if the results don't come. Take
note Redding.
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020, 17:49 Gene Hunt Twolanefun@outlook.com wrote:
I agree it was great and a good day for Ducati as well although I'm sad
about Chaz leaving the team.
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Well, besides being absolutely thrilled that Chaz Davies won his last race
with the factory Ducati team, it was incredible to see the passion that
went along with that win, as well as the departure of him from the team
itself. Seeing the messages the crew wrote on his tank/pit board
message/tears and emotions in parc ferme, and the subtle body/facial
language from him on the podium were amazing to see. The end of an era from
a well liked motorsport fellow is always big. Loved it. Hope he’s picked up
to ride again. Thanks for the memories, Chaz.
STeve
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Ducati and their teams are really making some amazing rider decisions lately huh?
On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:49 AM, Sandro Reis sandro.f.reis@gmail.com wrote:
I felt sad, but very happy for him. So many
Based on no insider knowledge whatsoever, it does seem to be salary based decision making. Reminds me of rider shopping in fantasy league. The salary cap is the number one factor.
I understand it’s a business, and the less you pay guys that can “sell on Monday” just makes dollars and sense. But Chaz and “Desmo Dovi” have long history’s as brand ambassadors and no paths to stay with the brand just makes us all sad. There is no doubt next season will be a bit less meaningful to Ducati fans like Sandro and his family.
It’s hard to know how tough things are after a year of Covid reality with VW rattling about selling brands again, empty grandstands and sponsors dropping like flies. I’m grateful all the series I love like GP, SBK and AFT all managed to pull off seasons. Sadly there were bound to be casualties.
Vicki
On Oct 19, 2020, at 8:17 AM, Tony Pagliaroli ajpags@gmail.com wrote:
Ducati and their teams are really making some amazing rider decisions lately huh?
On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:49 AM, Sandro Reis sandro.f.reis@gmail.com wrote:
I felt sad, but very happy for him. So many
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I hear you. As far as Dovi goes, probably true, but he'll also be making
close to $0 next season at this rate, so maybe he should have caved a bit.
Petrucci can't be that expensive, right? WSBK salaries can't be that much
comparatively either. Kawaski keeps paying Rea and Ducati has had their
biggest sales years in history recently.
Honestly, I think it's cool to see the young crew coming up. Rossi has set
the bar high for retirement and some guys hang on way too long without his
pedigree. To think JLo and Dani started AFTER and retired BEFORE him
(Stoner too, and Nicky was out of GP before his accident).
Pags
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 9:09 AM Vicki Smith Vicki@ducati.net wrote:
Based on no insider knowledge whatsoever, it does seem to be salary based
decision making. Reminds me of rider shopping in fantasy league. The salary
cap is the number one factor.
I understand it’s a business, and the less you pay guys that can “sell on
Monday” just makes dollars and sense. But Chaz and “Desmo Dovi” have long
history’s as brand ambassadors and no paths to stay with the brand just
makes us all sad. There is no doubt next season will be a bit less
meaningful to Ducati fans like Sandro and his family.
It’s hard to know how tough things are after a year of Covid reality with
VW rattling about selling brands again, empty grandstands and sponsors
dropping like flies. I’m grateful all the series I love like GP, SBK and
AFT all managed to pull off seasons. Sadly there were bound to be
casualties.
Vicki
On Oct 19, 2020, at 8:17 AM, Tony Pagliaroli ajpags@gmail.com wrote:
Ducati and their teams are really making some amazing rider decisions
lately huh?
On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:49 AM, Sandro Reis sandro.f.reis@gmail.com
wrote:
I felt sad, but very happy for him. So many
I read Ducati didn’t make Dovi an offer of any amount.
Vicki
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 9:23 AM Tony Pags ajpags@gmail.com wrote:
I hear you. As far as Dovi goes, probably true, but he'll also be making
close to $0 next season at this rate, so maybe he should have caved a bit.
Petrucci can't be that expensive, right? WSBK salaries can't be that much
comparatively either. Kawaski keeps paying Rea and Ducati has had their
biggest sales years in history recently.
Honestly, I think it's cool to see the young crew coming up. Rossi has
set the bar high for retirement and some guys hang on way too long without
his pedigree. To think JLo and Dani started AFTER and retired BEFORE him
(Stoner too, and Nicky was out of GP before his accident).
Pags
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 9:09 AM Vicki Smith Vicki@ducati.net wrote:
Based on no insider knowledge whatsoever, it does seem to be salary
based decision making. Reminds me of rider shopping in fantasy league. The
salary cap is the number one factor.
I understand it’s a business, and the less you pay guys that can “sell on
Monday” just makes dollars and sense. But Chaz and “Desmo Dovi” have long
history’s as brand ambassadors and no paths to stay with the brand just
makes us all sad. There is no doubt next season will be a bit less
meaningful to Ducati fans like Sandro and his family.
It’s hard to know how tough things are after a year of Covid reality with
VW rattling about selling brands again, empty grandstands and sponsors
dropping like flies. I’m grateful all the series I love like GP, SBK and
AFT all managed to pull off seasons. Sadly there were bound to be
casualties.
Vicki
To play devil's advocate and disclaimer, I like both Dovi and Chaz and wished they had stayed on. But....Chaz has had years to win the championship and hasn't delivered. Mistakes and injuries have cost him his shot a couple of times but he just hasn't done it. And his recent team mates, both Bautista and Redding, showing him up hasn't done him any favors. And with Dovi's recent form, Ducati may well be thinking "at least we made the right decision to not sign Dovi". I think with Dovi there is more downside to up at this point.
Anyway, no discussion on the new desmo-less V4? That's pretty big news, no?
Mario
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I read Ducati didn’t make Dovi an offer of any amount.
Vicki
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 9:23 AM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.commailto:ajpags@gmail.com> wrote:
I hear you. As far as Dovi goes, probably true, but he'll also be making close to $0 next season at this rate, so maybe he should have caved a bit. Petrucci can't be that expensive, right? WSBK salaries can't be that much comparatively either. Kawaski keeps paying Rea and Ducati has had their biggest sales years in history recently.
Honestly, I think it's cool to see the young crew coming up. Rossi has set the bar high for retirement and some guys hang on way too long without his pedigree. To think JLo and Dani started AFTER and retired BEFORE him (Stoner too, and Nicky was out of GP before his accident).
Pags
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 9:09 AM Vicki Smith <Vicki@ducati.netmailto:Vicki@ducati.net> wrote:
Based on no insider knowledge whatsoever, it does seem to be salary based decision making. Reminds me of rider shopping in fantasy league. The salary cap is the number one factor.
I understand it’s a business, and the less you pay guys that can “sell on Monday” just makes dollars and sense. But Chaz and “Desmo Dovi” have long history’s as brand ambassadors and no paths to stay with the brand just makes us all sad. There is no doubt next season will be a bit less meaningful to Ducati fans like Sandro and his family.
It’s hard to know how tough things are after a year of Covid reality with VW rattling about selling brands again, empty grandstands and sponsors dropping like flies. I’m grateful all the series I love like GP, SBK and AFT all managed to pull off seasons. Sadly there were bound to be casualties.
Vicki
I also read Dovi didn't give them a chance. Fascinating stuff no?
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 9:27 AM Vicki Smith Vicki@ducati.net wrote:
I read Ducati didn’t make Dovi an offer of any amount.
Vicki
Huge - but only in the Multi V4 right so far? Maybe that's yet another way
they distance their superbikes from the rest of the line? 170HP is pretty
tame by today's standards (although more than mere mortals can use anyway).
Half hoping the prices on V2 Multis come down a bit more - somehow I'm
thinking a 2 for 1 swap back on to a Multi again.
Pags
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 9:50 AM Mario Baroz mariobaroz@hotmail.com wrote:
Anyway, no discussion on the new desmo-less V4? That's pretty big news,
no?