Re: [Ducati] bloody yamahas

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Kevin Kachadourian
Mon, Sep 21, 2020 4:50 AM

Yes. For years, I've been trying to toss my tear-offs into other riders'
intakes (as they pass me), with zero success. I've already sent an email to
Fabo (or "Efe", as those of us really close to him call him), asking how he
managed this. If I find out how he did it, don't ask me to share, but be
very careful about passing me.

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 21:42, phil hitchcock via Ducati <
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BEFORE everyone starts bagging him for dropping back on sunday

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Yes. For years, I've been trying to toss my tear-offs into other riders' intakes (as they pass me), with zero success. I've already sent an email to Fabo (or "Efe", as those of us really close to him call him), asking how he managed this. If I find out how he did it, don't ask me to share, but be very careful about passing me. On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 21:42, phil hitchcock via Ducati < ducati@list.ducati.net> wrote: > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: phil hitchcock <beveltracker@yahoo.com> > To: ducati list <ducati@ducati.net> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: bloody yamahas > BEFORE everyone starts bagging him for dropping back on sunday > > > https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/09/20/motogp/miller-stopped-by-fabio-quartararos-tear-off-sucked-by-the-ducati-engine.html?fbclid=IwAR3ToTztsUPQ_2aCs7OHQ53I_ntQ9rM5wTiGmngySo2XwW6pxg8Kww3fixI > > phil hitchcockpre 1990 ducatis a speciality with the emphasis on bevel > singles & twins road and race motorcycle engineering 2 bon mace close > berkeley vale nsw 2261 australia www.roadandrace.com.au > SALES@ROADANDRACE.COM.AU > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: phil hitchcock via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net> > To: ducati list <ducati@ducati.net> > Cc: phil hitchcock <beveltracker@yahoo.com> > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: [Ducati] bloody yamahas > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >
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Tony Pagliaroli
Mon, Sep 21, 2020 11:07 AM

I’ve often wondered how there’s not more issues with tear offs. Seems like an accident waiting to happen really.

On Sep 21, 2020, at 12:51 AM, Kevin Kachadourian kkachadourian@gmail.com wrote:


Yes. For years, I've been trying to toss my tear-offs into other riders' intakes (as they pass me), with zero success. I've already sent an email to Fabo (or "Efe", as those of us really close to him call him), asking how he managed this. If I find out how he did it, don't ask me to share, but be very careful about passing me.

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 21:42, phil hitchcock via Ducati ducati@list.ducati.net wrote:

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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: bloody yamahas
BEFORE everyone starts bagging him for dropping back on sunday

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/09/20/motogp/miller-stopped-by-fabio-quartararos-tear-off-sucked-by-the-ducati-engine.html?fbclid=IwAR3ToTztsUPQ_2aCs7OHQ53I_ntQ9rM5wTiGmngySo2XwW6pxg8Kww3fixI

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I’ve often wondered how there’s not more issues with tear offs. Seems like an accident waiting to happen really. > On Sep 21, 2020, at 12:51 AM, Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > >  > Yes. For years, I've been trying to toss my tear-offs into other riders' intakes (as they pass me), with zero success. I've already sent an email to Fabo (or "Efe", as those of us really close to him call him), asking how he managed this. If I find out how he did it, don't ask me to share, but be very careful about passing me. > >> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 21:42, phil hitchcock via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: phil hitchcock <beveltracker@yahoo.com> >> To: ducati list <ducati@ducati.net> >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC) >> Subject: bloody yamahas >> BEFORE everyone starts bagging him for dropping back on sunday >> >> https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/09/20/motogp/miller-stopped-by-fabio-quartararos-tear-off-sucked-by-the-ducati-engine.html?fbclid=IwAR3ToTztsUPQ_2aCs7OHQ53I_ntQ9rM5wTiGmngySo2XwW6pxg8Kww3fixI >> >> phil hitchcockpre 1990 ducatis a speciality with the emphasis on bevel singles & twins road and race motorcycle engineering 2 bon mace close berkeley vale nsw 2261 australia www.roadandrace.com.au SALES@ROADANDRACE.COM.AU >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: phil hitchcock via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net> >> To: ducati list <ducati@ducati.net> >> Cc: phil hitchcock <beveltracker@yahoo.com> >> Bcc: >> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC) >> Subject: [Ducati] bloody yamahas >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: ajpags@gmail.com
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stephen abramson
Mon, Sep 21, 2020 11:09 AM

Tear offs are the banana peel of the bike racing world……….

STeve

On Sep 21, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Tony Pagliaroli ajpags@gmail.com wrote:

I’ve often wondered how there’s not more issues with tear offs. Seems like an accident waiting to happen really.

On Sep 21, 2020, at 12:51 AM, Kevin Kachadourian kkachadourian@gmail.com wrote:


Yes. For years, I've been trying to toss my tear-offs into other riders' intakes (as they pass me), with zero success. I've already sent an email to Fabo (or "Efe", as those of us really close to him call him), asking how he managed this. If I find out how he did it, don't ask me to share, but be very careful about passing me.

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 21:42, phil hitchcock via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net> wrote:

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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: bloody yamahas
BEFORE everyone starts bagging him for dropping back on sunday

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Tear offs are the banana peel of the bike racing world………. STeve > On Sep 21, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > I’ve often wondered how there’s not more issues with tear offs. Seems like an accident waiting to happen really. > >> On Sep 21, 2020, at 12:51 AM, Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>  >> Yes. For years, I've been trying to toss my tear-offs into other riders' intakes (as they pass me), with zero success. I've already sent an email to Fabo (or "Efe", as those of us really close to him call him), asking how he managed this. If I find out how he did it, don't ask me to share, but be very careful about passing me. >> >> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 21:42, phil hitchcock via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> wrote: >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: phil hitchcock <beveltracker@yahoo.com <mailto:beveltracker@yahoo.com>> >> To: ducati list <ducati@ducati.net <mailto:ducati@ducati.net>> >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC) >> Subject: bloody yamahas >> BEFORE everyone starts bagging him for dropping back on sunday >> >> https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/09/20/motogp/miller-stopped-by-fabio-quartararos-tear-off-sucked-by-the-ducati-engine.html?fbclid=IwAR3ToTztsUPQ_2aCs7OHQ53I_ntQ9rM5wTiGmngySo2XwW6pxg8Kww3fixI <https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/09/20/motogp/miller-stopped-by-fabio-quartararos-tear-off-sucked-by-the-ducati-engine.html?fbclid=IwAR3ToTztsUPQ_2aCs7OHQ53I_ntQ9rM5wTiGmngySo2XwW6pxg8Kww3fixI> >> >> phil hitchcockpre 1990 ducatis a speciality with the emphasis on bevel singles & twins road and race motorcycle engineering 2 bon mace close berkeley vale nsw 2261 australia www.roadandrace.com.au <http://www.roadandrace.com.au/> SALES@ROADANDRACE.COM.AU <mailto:SALES@ROADANDRACE.COM.AU> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: phil hitchcock via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> >> To: ducati list <ducati@ducati.net <mailto:ducati@ducati.net>> >> Cc: phil hitchcock <beveltracker@yahoo.com <mailto:beveltracker@yahoo.com>> >> Bcc: >> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC) >> Subject: [Ducati] bloody yamahas >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ <http://www.ductalk.com/> >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet <https://www.facebook.com/ducnet> >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net <http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net> >> Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com <mailto:kkachadourian@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: ajpags@gmail.com <mailto:ajpags@gmail.com> > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ <http://www.ductalk.com/> > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet <https://www.facebook.com/ducnet> > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net <mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net <http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net> > Mailto: desmo900cr@gmail.com <mailto:desmo900cr@gmail.com>
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Lan Max
Mon, Sep 21, 2020 12:41 PM

Tear off took Rossi down at Indy

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 7:10 AM stephen abramson desmo900cr@gmail.com
wrote:

Tear offs are the banana peel of the bike racing world……….

STeve

On Sep 21, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Tony Pagliaroli ajpags@gmail.com wrote:

I’ve often wondered how there’s not more issues with tear offs. Seems like
an accident waiting to happen really.

On Sep 21, 2020, at 12:51 AM, Kevin Kachadourian kkachadourian@gmail.com
wrote:


Yes. For years, I've been trying to toss my tear-offs into other riders'
intakes (as they pass me), with zero success. I've already sent an email to
Fabo (or "Efe", as those of us really close to him call him), asking how he
managed this. If I find out how he did it, don't ask me to share, but be
very careful about passing me.

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 21:42, phil hitchcock via Ducati <
ducati@list.ducati.net> wrote:

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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: bloody yamahas
BEFORE everyone starts bagging him for dropping back on sunday

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/09/20/motogp/miller-stopped-by-fabio-quartararos-tear-off-sucked-by-the-ducati-engine.html?fbclid=IwAR3ToTztsUPQ_2aCs7OHQ53I_ntQ9rM5wTiGmngySo2XwW6pxg8Kww3fixI

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singles & twins road and race motorcycle engineering 2 bon mace close
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Tear off took Rossi down at Indy On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 7:10 AM stephen abramson <desmo900cr@gmail.com> wrote: > Tear offs are the banana peel of the bike racing world………. > > STeve > > > On Sep 21, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > I’ve often wondered how there’s not more issues with tear offs. Seems like > an accident waiting to happen really. > > On Sep 21, 2020, at 12:51 AM, Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> > wrote: > >  > Yes. For years, I've been trying to toss my tear-offs into other riders' > intakes (as they pass me), with zero success. I've already sent an email to > Fabo (or "Efe", as those of us really close to him call him), asking how he > managed this. If I find out how he did it, don't ask me to share, but be > very careful about passing me. > > On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 21:42, phil hitchcock via Ducati < > ducati@list.ducati.net> wrote: > >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: phil hitchcock <beveltracker@yahoo.com> >> To: ducati list <ducati@ducati.net> >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC) >> Subject: bloody yamahas >> BEFORE everyone starts bagging him for dropping back on sunday >> >> >> https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/09/20/motogp/miller-stopped-by-fabio-quartararos-tear-off-sucked-by-the-ducati-engine.html?fbclid=IwAR3ToTztsUPQ_2aCs7OHQ53I_ntQ9rM5wTiGmngySo2XwW6pxg8Kww3fixI >> >> phil hitchcockpre 1990 ducatis a speciality with the emphasis on bevel >> singles & twins road and race motorcycle engineering 2 bon mace close >> berkeley vale nsw 2261 australia >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+bon+mace+close+berkeley+vale+nsw+2261+australia?entry=gmail&source=g> >> www.roadandrace.com.au SALES@ROADANDRACE.COM.AU >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: phil hitchcock via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net> >> To: ducati list <ducati@ducati.net> >> Cc: phil hitchcock <beveltracker@yahoo.com> >> Bcc: >> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC) >> Subject: [Ducati] bloody yamahas >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >> > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: ajpags@gmail.com > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > Mailto: desmo900cr@gmail.com > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #
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Tony Pags
Mon, Sep 21, 2020 1:11 PM

Is this fact?  Bagnaia thinks it might have been dirt or a tear off, but
that's not confirmed.  This would be the first I've heard of Rossi's crash
being due to a tear off.

If it caused a crash, even one time, they need to ban them.  Actually, even
Miller's issue should cause a ban as slowing on the track unexpectedly
could cause serious issues.

Pags

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 8:42 AM Lan Max nolanmaxxx@gmail.com wrote:

Tear off took Rossi down at Indy

Is this fact? Bagnaia thinks it might have been dirt or a tear off, but that's not confirmed. This would be the first I've heard of Rossi's crash being due to a tear off. If it caused a crash, even one time, they need to ban them. Actually, even Miller's issue should cause a ban as slowing on the track unexpectedly could cause serious issues. Pags On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 8:42 AM Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > Tear off took Rossi down at Indy > > >
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Mon, Sep 21, 2020 1:54 PM

On 9/21/2020, "stephen abramson" desmo900cr@gmail.com wrote:

Tear offs are the banana peel of the bike racing world……….

STeve

YEP! Back in the day I crashed on a warm up lap when my front end tucked mid
corner for no apparent reason. Corner worker said he saw something fly up from
my front end. We looked around and found a tear off that had incriminating
scratches on one side.
I’ve hated tear offs ever since.

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On 9/21/2020, "stephen abramson" <desmo900cr@gmail.com> wrote: >Tear offs are the banana peel of the bike racing world………. > >STeve YEP! Back in the day I crashed on a warm up lap when my front end tucked mid corner for no apparent reason. Corner worker said he saw something fly up from my front end. We looked around and found a tear off that had incriminating scratches on one side. I’ve hated tear offs ever since. the Dreamer (a.k.a. Dreamin’ Stephen) Living life on the edge. Less crowded, better view. For sale 2013 MV Agusta 675 F3, Red Molly 2011 Ducati Monster M796, Max 1998 Ducati 900 SS FE, silFEr
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Lan Max
Mon, Sep 21, 2020 2:58 PM

Not exactly a fact but it was not left out as part of the investigation.
They checked his telemetry and he done nothing wrong. They concluded either
dirty track or tear off was the cause. Why did they not just say dirty
track?

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 9:12 AM Tony Pags ajpags@gmail.com wrote:

Is this fact?  Bagnaia thinks it might have been dirt or a tear off, but
that's not confirmed.  This would be the first I've heard of Rossi's crash
being due to a tear off.

If it caused a crash, even one time, they need to ban them.  Actually,
even Miller's issue should cause a ban as slowing on the track unexpectedly
could cause serious issues.

Pags

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 8:42 AM Lan Max nolanmaxxx@gmail.com wrote:

Tear off took Rossi down at Indy

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Not exactly a fact but it was not left out as part of the investigation. They checked his telemetry and he done nothing wrong. They concluded either dirty track or tear off was the cause. Why did they not just say dirty track? On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 9:12 AM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > Is this fact? Bagnaia thinks it might have been dirt or a tear off, but > that's not confirmed. This would be the first I've heard of Rossi's crash > being due to a tear off. > > If it caused a crash, even one time, they need to ban them. Actually, > even Miller's issue should cause a ban as slowing on the track unexpectedly > could cause serious issues. > > > Pags > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 8:42 AM Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Tear off took Rossi down at Indy >> >> >> > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #
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Jack Ward
Wed, Sep 23, 2020 11:19 AM

As they say in Nascar...."that's funny right there". Good one, Kevin.

Jack Ward
Now in Knoxville, TN, USA

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 12:51 AM Kevin Kachadourian kkachadourian@gmail.com
wrote:

Yes. For years, I've been trying to toss my tear-offs into other riders'
intakes (as they pass me), with zero success. I've already sent an email to
Fabo (or "Efe", as those of us really close to him call him), asking how he
managed this. If I find out how he did it, don't ask me to share, but be
very careful about passing me.

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 21:42, phil hitchcock via Ducati <
ducati@list.ducati.net> wrote:

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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: bloody yamahas
BEFORE everyone starts bagging him for dropping back on sunday

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/09/20/motogp/miller-stopped-by-fabio-quartararos-tear-off-sucked-by-the-ducati-engine.html?fbclid=IwAR3ToTztsUPQ_2aCs7OHQ53I_ntQ9rM5wTiGmngySo2XwW6pxg8Kww3fixI

phil hitchcockpre 1990 ducatis a speciality with the emphasis on bevel
singles & twins road and race motorcycle engineering 2 bon mace close
berkeley vale nsw 2261 australia www.roadandrace.com.au
SALES@ROADANDRACE.COM.AU

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As they say in Nascar...."that's funny right there". Good one, Kevin. Jack Ward Now in Knoxville, TN, USA On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 12:51 AM Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes. For years, I've been trying to toss my tear-offs into other riders' > intakes (as they pass me), with zero success. I've already sent an email to > Fabo (or "Efe", as those of us really close to him call him), asking how he > managed this. If I find out how he did it, don't ask me to share, but be > very careful about passing me. > > On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 21:42, phil hitchcock via Ducati < > ducati@list.ducati.net> wrote: > >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: phil hitchcock <beveltracker@yahoo.com> >> To: ducati list <ducati@ducati.net> >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC) >> Subject: bloody yamahas >> BEFORE everyone starts bagging him for dropping back on sunday >> >> >> https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/09/20/motogp/miller-stopped-by-fabio-quartararos-tear-off-sucked-by-the-ducati-engine.html?fbclid=IwAR3ToTztsUPQ_2aCs7OHQ53I_ntQ9rM5wTiGmngySo2XwW6pxg8Kww3fixI >> >> phil hitchcockpre 1990 ducatis a speciality with the emphasis on bevel >> singles & twins road and race motorcycle engineering 2 bon mace close >> berkeley vale nsw 2261 australia www.roadandrace.com.au >> SALES@ROADANDRACE.COM.AU >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: phil hitchcock via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net> >> To: ducati list <ducati@ducati.net> >> Cc: phil hitchcock <beveltracker@yahoo.com> >> Bcc: >> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC) >> Subject: [Ducati] bloody yamahas >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >> > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: jaxn51@gmail.com >
LM
Lan Max
Fri, Sep 25, 2020 3:49 PM

I’ve patented a vegan tear off that self destructs as soon as it’s removed
from the shield.

Who’s got a better idea than that?

Pecco says to allow Marshalls to clean up the tear offs during the race LOL.
Or, tear off removal are allowed only on certain sectors or the track.

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 7:21 AM Jack Ward jaxn51@gmail.com wrote:

As they say in Nascar...."that's funny right there". Good one, Kevin.

Jack Ward
Now in Knoxville, TN, USA

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 12:51 AM Kevin Kachadourian kkachadourian@gmail.com
wrote:

Yes. For years, I've been trying to toss my tear-offs into other riders'
intakes (as they pass me), with zero success. I've already sent an email to
Fabo (or "Efe", as those of us really close to him call him), asking how he
managed this. If I find out how he did it, don't ask me to share, but be
very careful about passing me.

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 21:42, phil hitchcock via Ducati <
ducati@list.ducati.net> wrote:

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Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: bloody yamahas
BEFORE everyone starts bagging him for dropping back on sunday

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/09/20/motogp/miller-stopped-by-fabio-quartararos-tear-off-sucked-by-the-ducati-engine.html?fbclid=IwAR3ToTztsUPQ_2aCs7OHQ53I_ntQ9rM5wTiGmngySo2XwW6pxg8Kww3fixI

phil hitchcockpre 1990 ducatis a speciality with the emphasis on bevel
singles & twins road and race motorcycle engineering 2 bon mace close
berkeley vale nsw 2261 australia
https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+bon+mace+close+berkeley+vale+nsw+2261+australia?entry=gmail&source=g
www.roadandrace.com.au        SALES@ROADANDRACE.COM.AU

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I’ve patented a vegan tear off that self destructs as soon as it’s removed from the shield. Who’s got a better idea than that? Pecco says to allow Marshalls to clean up the tear offs during the race LOL. Or, tear off removal are allowed only on certain sectors or the track. On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 7:21 AM Jack Ward <jaxn51@gmail.com> wrote: > As they say in Nascar...."that's funny right there". Good one, Kevin. > > Jack Ward > Now in Knoxville, TN, USA > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 12:51 AM Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Yes. For years, I've been trying to toss my tear-offs into other riders' >> intakes (as they pass me), with zero success. I've already sent an email to >> Fabo (or "Efe", as those of us really close to him call him), asking how he >> managed this. If I find out how he did it, don't ask me to share, but be >> very careful about passing me. >> >> On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 21:42, phil hitchcock via Ducati < >> ducati@list.ducati.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: phil hitchcock <beveltracker@yahoo.com> >>> To: ducati list <ducati@ducati.net> >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC) >>> Subject: bloody yamahas >>> BEFORE everyone starts bagging him for dropping back on sunday >>> >>> >>> https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/09/20/motogp/miller-stopped-by-fabio-quartararos-tear-off-sucked-by-the-ducati-engine.html?fbclid=IwAR3ToTztsUPQ_2aCs7OHQ53I_ntQ9rM5wTiGmngySo2XwW6pxg8Kww3fixI >>> >>> phil hitchcockpre 1990 ducatis a speciality with the emphasis on bevel >>> singles & twins road and race motorcycle engineering 2 bon mace close >>> berkeley vale nsw 2261 australia >>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+bon+mace+close+berkeley+vale+nsw+2261+australia?entry=gmail&source=g> >>> www.roadandrace.com.au SALES@ROADANDRACE.COM.AU >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: phil hitchcock via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net> >>> To: ducati list <ducati@ducati.net> >>> Cc: phil hitchcock <beveltracker@yahoo.com> >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC) >>> Subject: [Ducati] bloody yamahas >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>> and >>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>> _____________________ >>> Ducati mailing list >>> Ducati@list.ducati.net >>> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >>> Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >>> >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> > Mailto: jaxn51@gmail.com >> > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #
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Mario Baroz
Fri, Sep 25, 2020 4:17 PM

Or, make the tear offs tearoffable (ha!) but have them still be attached to the helmet so they flap in the breeze. Make the ends really bright colors so they aid in rider identification.  It'll be really enjoyable for the riders too, hearing and feeling the flapping tearoffs beat against their helmets and shoulders at 200mph.

Nah, that sounds silly...I like Lan's idea better! hahahahahaha

Mario


From: Ducati ducati-bounces@list.ducati.net on behalf of Lan Max nolanmaxxx@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 10:49 AM
To: Ducati Owners Group ducati@list.ducati.net
Subject: Re: [Ducati] bloody yamahas

I’ve patented a vegan tear off that self destructs as soon as it’s removed from the shield.

Who’s got a better idea than that?

Pecco says to allow Marshalls to clean up the tear offs during the race LOL.
Or, tear off removal are allowed only on certain sectors or the track.

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 7:21 AM Jack Ward <jaxn51@gmail.commailto:jaxn51@gmail.com> wrote:
As they say in Nascar...."that's funny right there". Good one, Kevin.

Jack Ward
Now in Knoxville, TN, USA

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 12:51 AM Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.commailto:kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes. For years, I've been trying to toss my tear-offs into other riders' intakes (as they pass me), with zero success. I've already sent an email to Fabo (or "Efe", as those of us really close to him call him), asking how he managed this. If I find out how he did it, don't ask me to share, but be very careful about passing me.

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 21:42, phil hitchcock via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.netmailto:ducati@list.ducati.net> wrote:

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To: ducati list <ducati@ducati.netmailto:ducati@ducati.net>
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: bloody yamahas
BEFORE everyone starts bagging him for dropping back on sunday

https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/09/20/motogp/miller-stopped-by-fabio-quartararos-tear-off-sucked-by-the-ducati-engine.html?fbclid=IwAR3ToTztsUPQ_2aCs7OHQ53I_ntQ9rM5wTiGmngySo2XwW6pxg8Kww3fixI

phil hitchcockpre 1990 ducatis a speciality with the emphasis on bevel singles & twins road and race motorcycle engineering 2 bon mace close berkeley vale nsw 2261 australiahttps://www.google.com/maps/search/2+bon+mace+close+berkeley+vale+nsw+2261+australia?entry=gmail&source=g www.roadandrace.com.auhttp://www.roadandrace.com.au        SALES@ROADANDRACE.COM.AUmailto:SALES@ROADANDRACE.COM.AU

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Or, make the tear offs tearoffable (ha!) but have them still be attached to the helmet so they flap in the breeze. Make the ends really bright colors so they aid in rider identification. It'll be really enjoyable for the riders too, hearing and feeling the flapping tearoffs beat against their helmets and shoulders at 200mph. Nah, that sounds silly...I like Lan's idea better! hahahahahaha Mario ________________________________ From: Ducati <ducati-bounces@list.ducati.net> on behalf of Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 10:49 AM To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> Subject: Re: [Ducati] bloody yamahas I’ve patented a vegan tear off that self destructs as soon as it’s removed from the shield. Who’s got a better idea than that? Pecco says to allow Marshalls to clean up the tear offs during the race LOL. Or, tear off removal are allowed only on certain sectors or the track. On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 7:21 AM Jack Ward <jaxn51@gmail.com<mailto:jaxn51@gmail.com>> wrote: As they say in Nascar...."that's funny right there". Good one, Kevin. Jack Ward Now in Knoxville, TN, USA On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 12:51 AM Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com<mailto:kkachadourian@gmail.com>> wrote: Yes. For years, I've been trying to toss my tear-offs into other riders' intakes (as they pass me), with zero success. I've already sent an email to Fabo (or "Efe", as those of us really close to him call him), asking how he managed this. If I find out how he did it, don't ask me to share, but be very careful about passing me. On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 21:42, phil hitchcock via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> wrote: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: phil hitchcock <beveltracker@yahoo.com<mailto:beveltracker@yahoo.com>> To: ducati list <ducati@ducati.net<mailto:ducati@ducati.net>> Cc: Bcc: Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: bloody yamahas BEFORE everyone starts bagging him for dropping back on sunday https://www.gpone.com/en/2020/09/20/motogp/miller-stopped-by-fabio-quartararos-tear-off-sucked-by-the-ducati-engine.html?fbclid=IwAR3ToTztsUPQ_2aCs7OHQ53I_ntQ9rM5wTiGmngySo2XwW6pxg8Kww3fixI phil hitchcockpre 1990 ducatis a speciality with the emphasis on bevel singles & twins road and race motorcycle engineering 2 bon mace close berkeley vale nsw 2261 australia<https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+bon+mace+close+berkeley+vale+nsw+2261+australia?entry=gmail&source=g> www.roadandrace.com.au<http://www.roadandrace.com.au> SALES@ROADANDRACE.COM.AU<mailto:SALES@ROADANDRACE.COM.AU> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: phil hitchcock via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:ducati@list.ducati.net>> To: ducati list <ducati@ducati.net<mailto:ducati@ducati.net>> Cc: phil hitchcock <beveltracker@yahoo.com<mailto:beveltracker@yahoo.com>> Bcc: Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 04:41:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ducati] bloody yamahas To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: http://www.ductalk.com/ and https://www.facebook.com/ducnet _____________________ Ducati mailing list Ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com<mailto:kkachadourian@gmail.com> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: http://www.ductalk.com/ and https://www.facebook.com/ducnet _____________________ Ducati mailing list Ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net Mailto: jaxn51@gmail.com<mailto:jaxn51@gmail.com> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: http://www.ductalk.com/ and https://www.facebook.com/ducnet _____________________ Ducati mailing list Ducati@list.ducati.net<mailto:Ducati@list.ducati.net> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com<mailto:nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #