This is on Motorsport.com this am. https://www.motorsport.com/motoe/news/ducati-set-to-become-official-motoe-supplier-from-2023/6696096/ Vicki

Wow, so many questions raised by this!!! Stuart On 2021/10/21 08:50, Vicki Smith wrote: > This is on Motorsport.com this am. > > https://www.motorsport.com/motoe/news/ducati-set-to-become-official-motoe-supplier-from-2023/6696096/ > <https://www.motorsport.com/motoe/news/ducati-set-to-become-official-motoe-supplier-from-2023/6696096/> > > > Vicki > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s

Finally! I have been arguing for a few years that to produce an electric motorcycle would be Ducati returning to their roots, while forging a new future. As I resolve to only buy non ICU motorcycles, and also sold my 900, I have lamented leaving the Ducati marque. In the next few years, this will not be an issue for me. I know what my next motorcycle purchase is going to be. Whoo Hoo! On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 14:50, Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: > This is on Motorsport.com this am. > > > https://www.motorsport.com/motoe/news/ducati-set-to-become-official-motoe-supplier-from-2023/6696096/ > > Vicki > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s

Prob be 3-5 years before they push one out though. I wonder if they buy Energica, or at least assimilate their tech to make this happen? Pags On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 2:08 PM Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > Finally! > I have been arguing for a few years that to produce an electric motorcycle > would be Ducati returning to their roots, while forging a new future. > As I resolve to only buy non ICU motorcycles, and also sold my 900, I have > lamented leaving the Ducati marque. In the next few years, this will not be > an issue for me. > I know what my next motorcycle purchase is going to be. > Whoo Hoo! > >

I'm hoping for 3 years - I think I can hold out that long. As far as buying Energica, or using their technology, I would say that would be a bad move and hopefully not likely. Energica has a big weight problem, more so than other electric motorcycle manufacturers. As a company that has made itself a landmark through innovation, and making light and elegant motorcycles, I'm hoping they can bring that same innovation to making a light, fast and good handling electric sport bike. That's not too much to ask, is it? On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 21:22, Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > Prob be 3-5 years before they push one out though. I wonder if they buy > Energica, or at least assimilate their tech to make this happen? > > Pags > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 2:08 PM Kevin Kachadourian < > kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Finally! >> I have been arguing for a few years that to produce an electric >> motorcycle would be Ducati returning to their roots, while forging a new >> future. >> As I resolve to only buy non ICU motorcycles, and also sold my 900, I >> have lamented leaving the Ducati marque. In the next few years, this will >> not be an issue for me. >> I know what my next motorcycle purchase is going to be. >> Whoo Hoo! >> >> > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s

So far, yeah it’s been too much to ask. :-) I’m betting Gigi brings a hybrid drivetrain to MotoGP. Think TORQUE… Pags > On Oct 21, 2021, at 5:37 PM, Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > >  > I'm hoping for 3 years - I think I can hold out that long. > As far as buying Energica, or using their technology, I would say that would be a bad move and hopefully not likely. Energica has a big weight problem, more so than other electric motorcycle manufacturers. As a company that has made itself a landmark through innovation, and making light and elegant motorcycles, I'm hoping they can bring that same innovation to making a light, fast and good handling electric sport bike. > That's not too much to ask, is it? >

I'm pretty sure MotoGP bikes already make way more torque than they can actually use without advanced TC. On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 6:04 PM Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > So far, yeah it’s been too much to ask. :-) > > I’m betting Gigi brings a hybrid drivetrain to MotoGP. Think TORQUE… > Pags > > > > On Oct 21, 2021, at 5:37 PM, Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >  > > I'm hoping for 3 years - I think I can hold out that long. > > As far as buying Energica, or using their technology, I would say that > would be a bad move and hopefully not likely. Energica has a big weight > problem, more so than other electric motorcycle manufacturers. As a company > that has made itself a landmark through innovation, and making light and > elegant motorcycles, I'm hoping they can bring that same innovation to > making a light, fast and good handling electric sport bike. > > That's not too much to ask, is it? > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s

Sure, but it's the delivery of that torque right? Supercars are starting to use hybrid drivetrains to exploit that advantage. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibilities. Pags On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 10:14 AM Scottie Ducati <scottieducati@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm pretty sure MotoGP bikes already make way more torque than they can > actually use without advanced TC. > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 6:04 PM Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > >> So far, yeah it’s been too much to ask. :-) >> >> I’m betting Gigi brings a hybrid drivetrain to MotoGP. Think TORQUE… >> Pags >> >> >> > On Oct 21, 2021, at 5:37 PM, Kevin Kachadourian < >> kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >  >> > I'm hoping for 3 years - I think I can hold out that long. >> > As far as buying Energica, or using their technology, I would say that >> would be a bad move and hopefully not likely. Energica has a big weight >> problem, more so than other electric motorcycle manufacturers. As a company >> that has made itself a landmark through innovation, and making light and >> elegant motorcycles, I'm hoping they can bring that same innovation to >> making a light, fast and good handling electric sport bike. >> > That's not too much to ask, is it? >> > >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >> Mailto: %(user_address)s > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s

Cars have about 12x the contact patch available for traction. MotoGP bikes reached peak power many years ago and already offer well over 250 HP. Power is not the issue, getting it to the rear tire is. On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 10:25 AM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > Sure, but it's the delivery of that torque right? Supercars are starting > to use hybrid drivetrains to exploit that advantage. I don't think it's > outside the realm of possibilities. > > Pags > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 10:14 AM Scottie Ducati <scottieducati@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure MotoGP bikes already make way more torque than they can >> actually use without advanced TC. >> >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 6:04 PM Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> So far, yeah it’s been too much to ask. :-) >>> >>> I’m betting Gigi brings a hybrid drivetrain to MotoGP. Think TORQUE… >>> Pags >>> >>> >>> > On Oct 21, 2021, at 5:37 PM, Kevin Kachadourian < >>> kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >  >>> > I'm hoping for 3 years - I think I can hold out that long. >>> > As far as buying Energica, or using their technology, I would say that >>> would be a bad move and hopefully not likely. Energica has a big weight >>> problem, more so than other electric motorcycle manufacturers. As a company >>> that has made itself a landmark through innovation, and making light and >>> elegant motorcycles, I'm hoping they can bring that same innovation to >>> making a light, fast and good handling electric sport bike. >>> > That's not too much to ask, is it? >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>> and >>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>> _____________________ >>> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >>> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >>> Mailto: %(user_address)s >> >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >> Mailto: %(user_address)s > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s

You just jumped tracks between power and torque. I dunno that they reached peak power years ago and it seems Ducati keeps adding more in. There’s something to be said for instant and smooth linear torque. > On Oct 22, 2021, at 11:18 AM, Scottie Ducati <scottieducati@gmail.com> wrote: > >  > Cars have about 12x the contact patch available for traction. MotoGP bikes reached peak power many years ago and already offer well over 250 HP. Power is not the issue, getting it to the rear tire is. > >> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 10:25 AM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: >> Sure, but it's the delivery of that torque right? Supercars are starting to use hybrid drivetrains to exploit that advantage. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibilities. >> >> Pags >> >>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 10:14 AM Scottie Ducati <scottieducati@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I'm pretty sure MotoGP bikes already make way more torque than they can actually use without advanced TC. >>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 6:04 PM Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> So far, yeah it’s been too much to ask. :-) >>>> >>>> I’m betting Gigi brings a hybrid drivetrain to MotoGP. Think TORQUE… >>>> Pags >>>> >>>> >>>> > On Oct 21, 2021, at 5:37 PM, Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >  >>>> > I'm hoping for 3 years - I think I can hold out that long. >>>> > As far as buying Energica, or using their technology, I would say that would be a bad move and hopefully not likely. Energica has a big weight problem, more so than other electric motorcycle manufacturers. As a company that has made itself a landmark through innovation, and making light and elegant motorcycles, I'm hoping they can bring that same innovation to making a light, fast and good handling electric sport bike. >>>> > That's not too much to ask, is it? >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>>> and >>>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>>> _____________________ >>>> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >>>> Mailto: %(user_address)s >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>> and >>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>> _____________________ >>> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >>> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >>> Mailto: %(user_address)s >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net >> To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net >> Mailto: %(user_address)s > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list -- ducati@list.ducati.net > To unsubscribe send an email to ducati-leave@list.ducati.net > Mailto: %(user_address)s