CTI Mailing List Query
Is anyone aware of the best way to check the gravestones in a graveyard if I can’t go in person? I know the records for the Drumquin Presbyterian church only go back to 1845, but does the graveyard go back further? How can I check?
Thanks,
Katherine Quigley
Katherine,
I do not know the answer to your question, however, I do have one for you. I know Quigley is a very popular Irish name and my Grandmother was a Quigley. Most of her ancestors were from Glin, County Clare. Are yours in Tyrone or possibly from Glin?
Jim RodgersDarien, IL
On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 02:35:52 PM CDT, Katherine Quigley via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
Is anyone aware of the best way to check the gravestones in a graveyard if I can’t go in person? I know the records for the Drumquin Presbyterian church only go back to 1845, but does the graveyard go back further? How can I check?
Thanks,
Katherine Quigley
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Hello Katherine
To the best of my knowledge, Drumquin Presbyterian Church tombstones are late 1800's and 1900's. In earlier times, part of Castlederg and Pettigo.
Any particular surnames that you are looking for?
Dave Mitchell
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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] CTI Mailing List Query
Is anyone aware of the best way to check the gravestones in a graveyard if I can’t go in person? I know the records for the Drumquin Presbyterian church only go back to 1845, but does the graveyard go back further? How can I check?
Thanks,
Katherine Quigley
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Katherine,
My guide to Presbyterian congregations says there has been one at Drumquin since the 1600s. It also mentions that a new church was built between 1860 – 1863 after which the old church became the Manse (ie the Minister’s home). I would guess therefore that the graveyard does go back earlier than 1845.
Presbyterians generally didn’t keep burial records so there are unlikely to be any paper records for who is buried there. You just have to hope there’s a legible gravestone. You could try writing to the Minister to see if anyone has ever transcribed them or if he knows of a grave for your family. Otherwise you may just have to pay a researcher to go and look.
Not every Minister replies to these enquiries. Some get rather more genealogical enquiries than they feel able to deal with. On the other hand some are very obliging.
Elwyn
On Monday, 29 May 2023, 20:35:47 BST, Katherine Quigley via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
Is anyone aware of the best way to check the gravestones in a graveyard if I can’t go in person? I know the records for the Drumquin Presbyterian church only go back to 1845, but does the graveyard go back further? How can I check?
Thanks,
Katherine Quigley
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There are some e-books that can be purchased where people have
transcribed various graveyards... I had several "good hits" which have
later been proven accurate via picture sent to me.
The e-book I purchased is for County Leitrim, though I see many other
counties including Tyrone listed:
https://kabristanbookshop.com/product/ireland-publications/county-leitrim-burials-from-1760-part-3-pdf-format/
I don't know if there are other sources for this data, I purchased this
(only £5!) early in my genealogy work.
Based on a quick search I do see a link here which lists MANY graveyards
by county, and indicates whether published online or not (change the
county name in the URL if you want something different, or just use the
site search):
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/county_graveyards.php?search_type=full&county=Tyrone
Ideally some of this is useful!
Best, Dave
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Cc "Elwyn Soutter" elwynsoutter@yahoo.co.uk
Date 5/29/2023 4:08:08 PM
Subject [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: CTI Mailing List Query
Katherine,
My guide to Presbyterian congregations says there has been one at
Drumquin since the 1600s. It also mentions that a new church was built
between 1860 – 1863 after which the old church became the Manse (ie the
Minister’s home). I would guess therefore that the graveyard does go
back earlier than 1845.
Presbyterians generally didn’t keep burial records so there are
unlikely to be any paper records for who is buried there. You just have
to hope there’s a legible gravestone. You could try writing to the
Minister to see if anyone has ever transcribed them or if he knows of a
grave for your family. Otherwise you may just have to pay a researcher
to go and look.
Not every Minister replies to these enquiries. Some get rather more
genealogical enquiries than they feel able to deal with. On the other
hand some are very obliging.
Elwyn
On Monday, 29 May 2023, 20:35:47 BST, Katherine Quigley via
CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
Is anyone aware of the best way to check the gravestones in a graveyard
if I can’t go in person? I know the records for the Drumquin
Presbyterian church only go back to 1845, but does the graveyard go
back further? How can I check?
Thanks,
Katherine Quigley
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I agree with Dave that the Kabristan bookshop books / pdfs are very useful having had the ones for County Leitrim for many years as they have helped to confirm & add to the research for my Wife’s Ancestors as they had a large presence in that County.
Another very useful resource is www.igp-wweb.com http://www.igp-wweb.com which has listings with photos of many graveyards. The link for Tyrone is:
https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tyrone/photos/tombstones/markers.htm
Peter
From: Dave Vanable via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2023 9:36 PM
To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
Cc: Dave Vanable dave@dawnwalk.com
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: CTI Mailing List Query
There are some e-books that can be purchased where people have transcribed various graveyards... I had several "good hits" which have later been proven accurate via picture sent to me.
The e-book I purchased is for County Leitrim, though I see many other counties including Tyrone listed:
I don't know if there are other sources for this data, I purchased this (only £5!) early in my genealogy work.
Based on a quick search I do see a link here which lists MANY graveyards by county, and indicates whether published online or not (change the county name in the URL if you want something different, or just use the site search):
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/county_graveyards.php?search_type=full https://www.johngrenham.com/records/county_graveyards.php?search_type=full&county=Tyrone &county=Tyrone
Ideally some of this is useful!
Best, Dave
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Date 5/29/2023 4:08:08 PM
Subject [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: CTI Mailing List Query
Katherine,
My guide to Presbyterian congregations says there has been one at Drumquin since the 1600s. It also mentions that a new church was built between 1860 – 1863 after which the old church became the Manse (ie the Minister’s home). I would guess therefore that the graveyard does go back earlier than 1845.
Presbyterians generally didn’t keep burial records so there are unlikely to be any paper records for who is buried there. You just have to hope there’s a legible gravestone. You could try writing to the Minister to see if anyone has ever transcribed them or if he knows of a grave for your family. Otherwise you may just have to pay a researcher to go and look.
Not every Minister replies to these enquiries. Some get rather more genealogical enquiries than they feel able to deal with. On the other hand some are very obliging.
Elwyn
On Monday, 29 May 2023, 20:35:47 BST, Katherine Quigley via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com > wrote:
Is anyone aware of the best way to check the gravestones in a graveyard if I can’t go in person? I know the records for the Drumquin Presbyterian church only go back to 1845, but does the graveyard go back further? How can I check?
Thanks,
Katherine Quigley
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Thanks Peter for this!
Since I was there to confirm my original purchase location, I decided to
buy the four Tyrone PDF files... they arrived just now, 11:30pm on a
Monday night in the UK, only an hour after ordering!
Dave
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From peter@basingstokecircuit.net
To "Dave Vanable" dave@dawnwalk.com; "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing
List" cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
Date 5/29/2023 5:41:33 PM
Subject RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: CTI Mailing List Query
I agree with Dave that the Kabristan bookshop books / pdfs are very
useful having had the ones for County Leitrim for many years as they
have helped to confirm & add to the research for my Wife’s Ancestors as
they had a large presence in that County.
Another very useful resource is www.igp-wweb.com which has listings
with photos of many graveyards. The link for Tyrone is:
https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tyrone/photos/tombstones/markers.htm
Peter
From: Dave Vanable via CoTyroneList
cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2023 9:36 PM
To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List
cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
Cc: Dave Vanable dave@dawnwalk.com
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: CTI Mailing List Query
There are some e-books that can be purchased where people have
transcribed various graveyards... I had several "good hits" which have
later been proven accurate via picture sent to me.
The e-book I purchased is for County Leitrim, though I see many other
counties including Tyrone listed:
I don't know if there are other sources for this data, I purchased this
(only £5!) early in my genealogy work.
Based on a quick search I do see a link here which lists MANY
graveyards by county, and indicates whether published online or not
(change the county name in the URL if you want something different, or
just use the site search):
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/county_graveyards.php?search_type=full&county=Tyrone
Ideally some of this is useful!
Best, Dave
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Date 5/29/2023 4:08:08 PM
Subject [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: CTI Mailing List Query
Katherine,
My guide to Presbyterian congregations says there has been one at
Drumquin since the 1600s. It also mentions that a new church was built
between 1860 – 1863 after which the old church became the Manse (ie
the Minister’s home). I would guess therefore that the graveyard does
go back earlier than 1845.
Presbyterians generally didn’t keep burial records so there are
unlikely to be any paper records for who is buried there. You just
have to hope there’s a legible gravestone. You could try writing to
the Minister to see if anyone has ever transcribed them or if he knows
of a grave for your family. Otherwise you may just have to pay a
researcher to go and look.
Not every Minister replies to these enquiries. Some get rather more
genealogical enquiries than they feel able to deal with. On the other
hand some are very obliging.
Elwyn
On Monday, 29 May 2023, 20:35:47 BST, Katherine Quigley via
CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
Is anyone aware of the best way to check the gravestones in a
graveyard if I can’t go in person? I know the records for the Drumquin
Presbyterian church only go back to 1845, but does the graveyard go
back further? How can I check?
Thanks,
Katherine Quigley
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Thank you so much for all your replies. I know that my 4th-great
grandfather, Andrew Quigley, lived in County Tyrone at the time of his
death in 1847. He was originally from Athlone in County Westmeath, but he
moved to County Tyrone after he became a pensioner after his service in the
Royal Artillery. His son, James Quigley, was married in the Drumquin
Presbyterian Church in 1848. I was hoping to find a gravestone for Andrew
and also see if maybe he had any children buried near him that I haven't
found other records for.
I have been in contact with the minister at that church, and he said there
was a cemetery, but no death records. Does anyone have a researcher to
recommend to look through the cemetery for me?
On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 4:36 PM Dave Vanable via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
Thanks Peter for this!
Since I was there to confirm my original purchase location, I decided to
buy the four Tyrone PDF files... they arrived just now, 11:30pm on a Monday
night in the UK, only an hour after ordering!
Dave
------ Original Message ------
From peter@basingstokecircuit.net
To "Dave Vanable" dave@dawnwalk.com; "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List"
cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
Date 5/29/2023 5:41:33 PM
Subject RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: CTI Mailing List Query
I agree with Dave that the Kabristan bookshop books / pdfs are very useful
having had the ones for County Leitrim for many years as they have helped
to confirm & add to the research for my Wife’s Ancestors as they had a
large presence in that County.
Another very useful resource is www.igp-wweb.com which has listings with
photos of many graveyards. The link for Tyrone is:
https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tyrone/photos/tombstones/markers.htm
Peter
From: Dave Vanable via CoTyroneList <
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Sent: Monday, May 29, 2023 9:36 PM
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Cc: Dave Vanable dave@dawnwalk.com
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: CTI Mailing List Query
There are some e-books that can be purchased where people have transcribed
various graveyards... I had several "good hits" which have later been
proven accurate via picture sent to me.
The e-book I purchased is for County Leitrim, though I see many other
counties including Tyrone listed:
I don't know if there are other sources for this data, I purchased this
(only £5!) early in my genealogy work.
Based on a quick search I do see a link here which lists MANY graveyards
by county, and indicates whether published online or not (change the county
name in the URL if you want something different, or just use the site
search):
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/county_graveyards.php?search_type=full&county=Tyrone
Ideally some of this is useful!
Best, Dave
------ Original Message ------
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Cc "Elwyn Soutter" elwynsoutter@yahoo.co.uk
Date 5/29/2023 4:08:08 PM
Subject [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: CTI Mailing List Query
Katherine,
My guide to Presbyterian congregations says there has been one at Drumquin
since the 1600s. It also mentions that a new church was built between 1860
– 1863 after which the old church became the Manse (ie the Minister’s
home). I would guess therefore that the graveyard does go back earlier than
1845.
Presbyterians generally didn’t keep burial records so there are unlikely
to be any paper records for who is buried there. You just have to hope
there’s a legible gravestone. You could try writing to the Minister to see
if anyone has ever transcribed them or if he knows of a grave for your
family. Otherwise you may just have to pay a researcher to go and look.
Not every Minister replies to these enquiries. Some get rather more
genealogical enquiries than they feel able to deal with. On the other hand
some are very obliging.
Elwyn
On Monday, 29 May 2023, 20:35:47 BST, Katherine Quigley via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
Is anyone aware of the best way to check the gravestones in a graveyard if
I can’t go in person? I know the records for the Drumquin Presbyterian
church only go back to 1845, but does the graveyard go back further? How
can I check?
Thanks,
Katherine Quigley
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Katherine,
The link Dave provided says that the UHF have transcribed Drumquin Presbyterian’s gravestones. I had a look on their site and there are no legible Quigleys in that graveyard (parish is Longfield East). Indeed there are no Quigleys in Tyrone on that site.
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/county_graveyards.php?search_type=full&county=Tyrone
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On Tuesday, 30 May 2023, 05:05:09 BST, Katherine Q via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
Thank you so much for all your replies. I know that my 4th-great grandfather, Andrew Quigley, lived in County Tyrone at the time of his death in 1847. He was originally from Athlone in County Westmeath, but he moved to County Tyrone after he became a pensioner after his service in the Royal Artillery. His son, James Quigley, was married in the Drumquin Presbyterian Church in 1848. I was hoping to find a gravestone for Andrew and also see if maybe he had any children buried near him that I haven't found other records for.
I have been in contact with the minister at that church, and he said there was a cemetery, but no death records. Does anyone have a researcher to recommend to look through the cemetery for me?
On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 4:36 PM Dave Vanable via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
Thanks Peter for this!
Since I was there to confirm my original purchase location, I decided to buy the four Tyrone PDF files... they arrived just now, 11:30pm on a Monday night in the UK, only an hour after ordering!
Dave
------ Original Message ------From peter@basingstokecircuit.netTo "Dave Vanable" dave@dawnwalk.com; "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.comDate 5/29/2023 5:41:33 PMSubject RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: CTI Mailing List Query
I agree with Dave that the Kabristan bookshop books / pdfs are very useful having had the ones for County Leitrim for many years as they have helped to confirm & add to the research for my Wife’s Ancestors as they had a large presence in that County.
Another very useful resource is www.igp-wweb.com which has listings with photos of many graveyards. The link for Tyrone is:
https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tyrone/photos/tombstones/markers.htm
Peter
From: Dave Vanable via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2023 9:36 PM
To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
Cc: Dave Vanable dave@dawnwalk.com
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: CTI Mailing List Query
There are some e-books that can be purchased where people have transcribed various graveyards... I had several "good hits" which have later been proven accurate via picture sent to me.
The e-book I purchased is for County Leitrim, though I see many other counties including Tyrone listed:
I don't know if there are other sources for this data, I purchased this (only £5!) early in my genealogy work.
Based on a quick search I do see a link here which lists MANY graveyards by county, and indicates whether published online or not (change the county name in the URL if you want something different, or just use the site search):
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/county_graveyards.php?search_type=full&county=Tyrone
Ideally some of this is useful!
Best, Dave
------ Original Message ------
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Cc "Elwyn Soutter" elwynsoutter@yahoo.co.uk
Date 5/29/2023 4:08:08 PM
Subject [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: CTI Mailing List Query
Katherine,
My guide to Presbyterian congregations says there has been one at Drumquin since the 1600s. It also mentions that a new church was built between 1860 – 1863 after which the old church became the Manse (ie the Minister’s home). I would guess therefore that the graveyard does go back earlier than 1845.
Presbyterians generally didn’t keep burial records so there are unlikely to be any paper records for who is buried there. You just have to hope there’s a legible gravestone. You could try writing to the Minister to see if anyone has ever transcribed them or if he knows of a grave for your family. Otherwise you may just have to pay a researcher to go and look.
Not every Minister replies to these enquiries. Some get rather more genealogical enquiries than they feel able to deal with. On the other hand some are very obliging.
Elwyn
On Monday, 29 May 2023, 20:35:47 BST, Katherine Quigley via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
Is anyone aware of the best way to check the gravestones in a graveyard if I can’t go in person? I know the records for the Drumquin Presbyterian church only go back to 1845, but does the graveyard go back further? How can I check?
Thanks,
Katherine Quigley
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Hi Peter, Note a typo. Should be: https://www.igp-web.com/ Thanks for
the links, Gordon
On 30/05/2023 7:11 am, Peter Harris via CoTyroneList wrote:
I agree with Dave that the Kabristan bookshop books / pdfs are very
useful having had the ones for County Leitrim for many years as they
have helped to confirm & add to the research for my Wife’s Ancestors
as they had a large presence in that County.
Another very useful resource is www.igp-wweb.com
http://www.igp-wweb.com which has listings with photos of many
graveyards. The link for Tyrone is:
https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tyrone/photos/tombstones/markers.htm
Peter
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