How is trashing your tires, so they spit you into the gravel, riding on a higher level? Managing tires is part of the skill set necessary to be a winner. Remember when fuel management used to be part of the equation? On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 at 14:38, Roger Sears via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net> wrote: > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Roger Sears <rlsedition@yahoo.com> > To: ducati@list.ducati.net > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 21:01:48 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: MotoGP Race Thread (Roger Sears) > I was alternately impressed and depressed with MM's ride Sunday. Anybody > had to be impressed with the way he flew through the rest of the field > after his first get-off, but depressed that he didn't realize he was > burning up his tires so they wouldn't be there at the end of the race, > which is why some of the riders toward the front were so easily overtaken - > they were managing their tires. But looking at the big picture, Marquez is > simply on another, higher level than any other rider racing currently; he > reminds me of Casey Stoner. > On Monday, July 20, 2020, 08:04:49 AM EDT, < > ducati-request@list.ducati.net> wrote: > > Send Ducati mailing list submissions to > ducati@list.ducati.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ducati-request@list.ducati.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ducati-owner@list.ducati.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Ducati digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Help with 900SS leaking gas (something to talk about before > we get to MotoGP) (Kevin Kachadourian) > 2. Re: Help with 900SS leaking gas (something to talk about > before we get to MotoGP) (MICHAEL ADORNETTO) > 3. Dovi Undaunted Video/RedBull Video (Brian Conner) > 4. Re: MOTOGP RACE THREAD (may contain spoilers) (Lan Max) > 5. Re: MOTOGP RACE THREAD (may contain spoilers) (nabil kabbani) > 6. Re: MOTOGP RACE THREAD (may contain spoilers) (nabil kabbani) > 7. Re: Dovi Undaunted Video/RedBull Video (Lan Max) > 8. Re: MOTOGP RACE THREAD (may contain spoilers) (T) > 9. Re: MOTOGP RACE THREAD (may contain spoilers) (Lan Max) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 13:15:44 -0700 > From: Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> > To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > Subject: [Ducati] Help with 900SS leaking gas (something to talk about > before we get to MotoGP) > Message-ID: > <CAEni7FPpq0hBpJcejZOAUVPONJLpT+O4Jd889-qF_V4sHjOyOg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Okay, I have to start this with a confession: I sold my 900 to a good > friend, which is another story for another post. He just called with a > problem, and I am looking for ideas; of what it might be, or where to > look. > > Here's what I know: > There is a slow but significant gas leak which he first spotted coming out > of a cross over tube between the two banked Keihin FCR carbs. He had ridden > the bike earlier today and it ran fine. Now, after sitting in the garage > for a while after today's ride, the gas is dripping from where the Termis > connect to the muffler. At first I was thinking fuel pump, like there was a > cut off that was not working. But, now, I'm thinking overflow tube has > broken or dropped off and is lying inside the tank. My friend is right now > draining the tank and should know if I'm right soon (if he doesn't pass out > from the evaporated gas fumes first). > > Any other ideas? > Kevin > > BTW, I still have the '85 Alazzurra and the Cucciolo, but otherwise have > gone over to the dark side and bought a Lightning Strike electric > motorcycle. More on that after I adjust to it and thrash it about a bit. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 17:31:24 -0400 > From: MICHAEL ADORNETTO <mcacorse@aol.com> > To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > Subject: Re: [Ducati] Help with 900SS leaking gas (something to talk > about before we get to MotoGP) > Message-ID: <7F708952-A159-4900-9D23-C7940391E071@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > For the leak by the carb I would check the hose going to the fuel inlet. > They will dry out and crack causing a leak especially if it is the original > hose. This happened on my monster with fcr?s . Be careful taking it off the > plastic inlet or you will have to replace the inlet . Ask me how I know. > Not sure where the leak would be coming from by the termis. Good luck > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 19, 2020, at 4:16 PM, Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > ?Okay, I have to start this with a confession: I sold my 900 to a good > > friend, which is another story for another post. He just called with a > > problem, and I am looking for ideas; of what it might be, or where to > look. > > > > Here's what I know: > > There is a slow but significant gas leak which he first spotted coming > out > > of a cross over tube between the two banked Keihin FCR carbs. He had > ridden > > the bike earlier today and it ran fine. Now, after sitting in the garage > > for a while after today's ride, the gas is dripping from where the Termis > > connect to the muffler. At first I was thinking fuel pump, like there > was a > > cut off that was not working. But, now, I'm thinking overflow tube has > > broken or dropped off and is lying inside the tank. My friend is right > now > > draining the tank and should know if I'm right soon (if he doesn't pass > out > > from the evaporated gas fumes first). > > > > Any other ideas? > > Kevin > > > > BTW, I still have the '85 Alazzurra and the Cucciolo, but otherwise have > > gone over to the dark side and bought a Lightning Strike electric > > motorcycle. More on that after I adjust to it and thrash it about a bit. > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > and > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > _____________________ > > Ducati mailing list > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > Mailto: mcacorse@aol.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 22:27:05 +0000 > From: Brian Conner <bscco@hotmail.com> > To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > Subject: [Ducati] Dovi Undaunted Video/RedBull Video > Message-ID: > < > CY4PR05MB28727D90500A7C39F7B94142B17A0@CY4PR05MB2872.namprd05.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Do a search and watch this!!! > Quite good with lots of frank conversations. > > Brian > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 21:25:07 -0400 > From: Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> > To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > Subject: Re: [Ducati] MOTOGP RACE THREAD (may contain spoilers) > Message-ID: > <CACbjSyOtO+M6U_Mbo+Q0GAb3WEPwfrca=x6fOXu+5vQGtYwBrQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Omg what a shame! > > > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:24 AM CRP CRP <cynthia.melendez1@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > No issues at all! > > > > ? can?t wait to hear what everyone has to say about the race. > > > > Cynthia > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Jul 19, 2020, at 9:42 AM, Tony Pagliaroli <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > ?No issues either, but I know STeve had some. > > > > > > Wow. Just wow. > > > > > > Pags > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > > and > > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > > _____________________ > > > Ducati mailing list > > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > > Mailto: cynthia.melendez1@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > and > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > _____________________ > > Ducati mailing list > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > > > -- > sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 18:50:11 -0700 > From: nabil kabbani <nkabbani@gmail.com> > To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > Cc: "ducati@ducati.net" <ducati@ducati.net> > Subject: Re: [Ducati] MOTOGP RACE THREAD (may contain spoilers) > Message-ID: > <CAL+ZkxstJ0HKocw+1aixb_dR31Sf+5SBFu9SzqqViiXqksMMEQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > It was slow to load and navigate but no issues with streaming. > > What a great race! > > > > *Nabil Kabbani * > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/nabilkabbani > < > https://www.linkedin.com/public-profile/settings?trk=prof-edit-edit-public_profile > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 5:39 AM Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: > > > Let?s try this. One official thread for all race discussions since it?s > > not broadcasting live. > > > > > > Anybody else getting terrible reception? App or website I have crazy fast > > internet and the race feed keeps stalling out... > > > > Regardless it feels so NORMAL to be watching the race on a Sunday am. > > Happiness is in the small things . > > Vicki > > > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > and > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > _____________________ > > Ducati mailing list > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > Mailto: nkabbani@gmail.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 18:50:11 -0700 > From: nabil kabbani <nkabbani@gmail.com> > To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > Cc: "ducati@ducati.net" <ducati@ducati.net> > Subject: Re: [Ducati] MOTOGP RACE THREAD (may contain spoilers) > Message-ID: > <CAL+ZkxstJ0HKocw+1aixb_dR31Sf+5SBFu9SzqqViiXqksMMEQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > It was slow to load and navigate but no issues with streaming. > > What a great race! > > > > *Nabil Kabbani * > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/nabilkabbani > < > https://www.linkedin.com/public-profile/settings?trk=prof-edit-edit-public_profile > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 5:39 AM Vicki Smith <vicki@ducati.net> wrote: > > > Let?s try this. One official thread for all race discussions since it?s > > not broadcasting live. > > > > > > Anybody else getting terrible reception? App or website I have crazy fast > > internet and the race feed keeps stalling out... > > > > Regardless it feels so NORMAL to be watching the race on a Sunday am. > > Happiness is in the small things . > > Vicki > > > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > and > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > _____________________ > > Ducati mailing list > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > Mailto: nkabbani@gmail.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 22:25:28 -0400 > From: Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> > To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > Subject: Re: [Ducati] Dovi Undaunted Video/RedBull Video > Message-ID: > <CACbjSyNO_ok_e6oF7dRU=JKpPtNfuwM1BKFkTfKDdNrKgVPW+A@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > https://www.redbull.com/us-en/films/andrea-dovizioso-undaunted-film > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 6:27 PM Brian Conner <bscco@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Do a search and watch this!!! > > Quite good with lots of frank conversations. > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > and > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > _____________________ > > Ducati mailing list > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > > > -- > sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 09:11:29 +0200 > From: T <st2_@ticino.com> > To: ducati@list.ducati.net > Subject: Re: [Ducati] MOTOGP RACE THREAD (may contain spoilers) > Message-ID: <c014ed15-3902-88cb-6124-2489af39745d@ticino.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Ummm, we watched it live yesterday, though we missed some bits so I > watched it again when I got home, as I had recorded it just in case. > > Tom > > On 7/19/2020 2:38 PM, Vicki Smith wrote: > > Let?s try this. One official thread for all race discussions since it?s > not broadcasting live. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 08:03:50 -0400 > From: Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> > To: Ducati Owners Group <ducati@list.ducati.net> > Subject: Re: [Ducati] MOTOGP RACE THREAD (may contain spoilers) > Message-ID: > <CACbjSyNKnZxqHQG0yXxna5GV1NbLuOODyRONw5LDZ1NmfPj+0w@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > So, it looks like the championship will be handed to either Quartararro, > Dovizioso or Vi?ales. > > This might be Rossi?s year! > > Anyhow, it?s all their chance to finally win. > > Marquez did not deserve that, especially after an amazing ride. I don?t > remember any rider who could ride the same. > > I hope it?s not a career ending injury. > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 3:12 AM T <st2_@ticino.com> wrote: > > > Ummm, we watched it live yesterday, though we missed some bits so I > > watched it again when I got home, as I had recorded it just in case. > > > > Tom > > > > On 7/19/2020 2:38 PM, Vicki Smith wrote: > > > Let?s try this. One official thread for all race discussions since it?s > > not broadcasting live. > > > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > and > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > _____________________ > > Ducati mailing list > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > > > -- > sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > Check out Ductalk.com for an addictive mix of the best Ducati news items. > > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Ducati Digest, Vol 117, Issue 154 > **************************************** > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Roger Sears via Ducati <ducati@list.ducati.net> > To: ducati@list.ducati.net > Cc: Roger Sears <rlsedition@yahoo.com> > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 21:01:48 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: [Ducati] MotoGP Race Thread (Roger Sears) > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >

There's no indication he trashed his tires. He got exuberant with the throttle. He was running the ENTIRE field down, outpacing even Dovi by about 1s per lap. His pace was fierce, and indeed he was riding on a higher level than the rest of the field. Not saying his race strategy was the best (obviously), but if you can't respect that performance, fan or not, you simply confuse me. Pags On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:24 AM Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > How is trashing your tires, so they spit you into the gravel, riding on a > higher level? Managing tires is part of the skill set necessary to be a > winner. Remember when fuel management used to be part of the equation? > > >

KK is on a different level, but I do see his point. Gotta finish the race to win, even if everyone crashes, so long as the rider finishes first as a back marker, he/she is absolutely amazing! That’s a Jaw dropping performance and A real champ in the eyes of KK. That’s what impresses him. I also agree with Pagsy’s comment below. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:52 AM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > There's no indication he trashed his tires. He got exuberant with the > throttle. He was running the ENTIRE field down, outpacing even Dovi by > about 1s per lap. His pace was fierce, and indeed he was riding on a > higher level than the rest of the field. Not saying his race strategy was > the best (obviously), but if you can't respect that performance, fan or > not, you simply confuse me. > > Pags > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:24 AM Kevin Kachadourian < > kkachadourian@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > How is trashing your tires, so they spit you into the gravel, riding on a > > higher level? Managing tires is part of the skill set necessary to be a > > winner. Remember when fuel management used to be part of the equation? > > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #

In the end, I think we are all correct. MM is an amazing rider. Even if there are riders who can go as fast as he does (FQ?), there is no one who can successfully ride the ragged edge of a motoGP bike like he does. Sunday, the bike went over that ragged edge twice. The first time Marc made another phenomenal save (I will never tire of watching his saves); the second time he could not. Fabio won the race by being fast and never having to go to that edge. If Marc had caught up with FQ, either FQ would have needed to push harder and take bigger chances, or MM would have passed him like everyone else. Does Rabio have that in him? I look forward to that race, hopefully soon. On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 07:05, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > KK is on a different level, but I do see his point. Gotta finish the race > to win, even if everyone crashes, so long as the rider finishes first as a > back marker, he/she is absolutely amazing! That’s a Jaw dropping > performance and A real champ in the eyes of KK. That’s what impresses him. > > I also agree with Pagsy’s comment below. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:52 AM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > > There's no indication he trashed his tires. He got exuberant with the > > throttle. He was running the ENTIRE field down, outpacing even Dovi by > > about 1s per lap. His pace was fierce, and indeed he was riding on a > > higher level than the rest of the field. Not saying his race strategy > was > > the best (obviously), but if you can't respect that performance, fan or > > not, you simply confuse me. > > > > Pags > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:24 AM Kevin Kachadourian < > > kkachadourian@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > How is trashing your tires, so they spit you into the gravel, riding > on a > > > higher level? Managing tires is part of the skill set necessary to be a > > > winner. Remember when fuel management used to be part of the equation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > and > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > _____________________ > > Ducati mailing list > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > > > -- > sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >

El diablo will not have a choice, but to fight. Can he fight as good as MM93? Well, he did try last year, but he wasn't on the same level. We’ll see how fast he learns this year. Another way is for him to completely avoid fighting and just haul ass like Lorenzo and Stoner used to do. I think Lorenzo/Stoner got very upset when someone like Rossi/MM93 roughed ‘em up. They both all of a sudden became vegans. Anyway, I’m a little disappointed now because we might not see a full Marquez vs Fabio Duel. But then, we’ll see how tough Marquez really is. This is his real challenge; To defeat them all while not 100% fit. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:50 AM Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > In the end, I think we are all correct. MM is an amazing rider. Even if > there are riders who can go as fast as he does (FQ?), there is no one who > can successfully ride the ragged edge of a motoGP bike like he does. > Sunday, the bike went over that ragged edge twice. The first time Marc made > another phenomenal save (I will never tire of watching his saves); the > second time he could not. Fabio won the race by being fast and never having > to go to that edge. If Marc had caught up with FQ, either FQ would have > needed to push harder and take bigger chances, or MM would have passed him > like everyone else. Does Rabio have that in him? > I look forward to that race, hopefully soon. > > On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 07:05, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > > KK is on a different level, but I do see his point. Gotta finish the race > > to win, even if everyone crashes, so long as the rider finishes first as > a > > back marker, he/she is absolutely amazing! That’s a Jaw dropping > > performance and A real champ in the eyes of KK. That’s what impresses > him. > > > > I also agree with Pagsy’s comment below. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:52 AM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > There's no indication he trashed his tires. He got exuberant with the > > > throttle. He was running the ENTIRE field down, outpacing even Dovi by > > > about 1s per lap. His pace was fierce, and indeed he was riding on a > > > higher level than the rest of the field. Not saying his race strategy > > was > > > the best (obviously), but if you can't respect that performance, fan or > > > not, you simply confuse me. > > > > > > Pags > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:24 AM Kevin Kachadourian < > > > kkachadourian@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > How is trashing your tires, so they spit you into the gravel, riding > > on a > > > > higher level? Managing tires is part of the skill set necessary to > be a > > > > winner. Remember when fuel management used to be part of the > equation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > > and > > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > > _____________________ > > > Ducati mailing list > > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > > > > > -- > > sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > > -- sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ #

Duuuuuuudeeee....the guy was nearly blinded in Moto2, has had multiple shoulder operations, has crashed at 150MPH plus, walked away and set pole 5 minutes later, and you question his toughness? Sheesh, look at me defending MM! On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 5:02 PM Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > El diablo will not have a choice, but to fight. Can he fight as good as > MM93? Well, he did try last year, but he wasn't on the same level. We’ll > see how fast he learns this year. Another way is for him to completely > avoid fighting and just haul ass like Lorenzo and Stoner used to do. > I think Lorenzo/Stoner got very upset when someone like Rossi/MM93 roughed > ‘em up. They both all of a sudden became vegans. > > Anyway, I’m a little disappointed now because we might not see a full > Marquez vs Fabio Duel. > But then, we’ll see how tough Marquez really is. This is his real > challenge; To defeat them all while not 100% fit. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:50 AM Kevin Kachadourian < > kkachadourian@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > In the end, I think we are all correct. MM is an amazing rider. Even if > > there are riders who can go as fast as he does (FQ?), there is no one who > > can successfully ride the ragged edge of a motoGP bike like he does. > > Sunday, the bike went over that ragged edge twice. The first time Marc > made > > another phenomenal save (I will never tire of watching his saves); the > > second time he could not. Fabio won the race by being fast and never > having > > to go to that edge. If Marc had caught up with FQ, either FQ would have > > needed to push harder and take bigger chances, or MM would have passed > him > > like everyone else. Does Rabio have that in him? > > I look forward to that race, hopefully soon. > > > > On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 07:05, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > KK is on a different level, but I do see his point. Gotta finish the > race > > > to win, even if everyone crashes, so long as the rider finishes first > as > > a > > > back marker, he/she is absolutely amazing! That’s a Jaw dropping > > > performance and A real champ in the eyes of KK. That’s what impresses > > him. > > > > > > I also agree with Pagsy’s comment below. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:52 AM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > There's no indication he trashed his tires. He got exuberant with > the > > > > throttle. He was running the ENTIRE field down, outpacing even Dovi > by > > > > about 1s per lap. His pace was fierce, and indeed he was riding on a > > > > higher level than the rest of the field. Not saying his race > strategy > > > was > > > > the best (obviously), but if you can't respect that performance, fan > or > > > > not, you simply confuse me. > > > > > > > > Pags > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:24 AM Kevin Kachadourian < > > > > kkachadourian@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > How is trashing your tires, so they spit you into the gravel, > riding > > > on a > > > > > higher level? Managing tires is part of the skill set necessary to > > be a > > > > > winner. Remember when fuel management used to be part of the > > equation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > > > and > > > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > > > _____________________ > > > > Ducati mailing list > > > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > > > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > > > > > > > -- > > > sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > > > > -- > sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: ajpags@gmail.com >

Pags, MM needs no defence. His presence on the podium this weekend will do all his talking for him. Pins in the bone, brace on the wrist, as many anti-inflammatories and painkillers as can be managed, and he's good to go. Correction: I just saw the photograph of MM with his arm wrapped and braced. I am downgrading my prediction to only a 65% chance of competing this weekend and a 70% chance of being on the podium if he does. Oh, wait. I almost forgot. I'm not a fan of Marquez (and that's the absolutely last time for this joke,... probably) Kevin On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 14:42, Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > Duuuuuuudeeee....the guy was nearly blinded in Moto2, has had multiple > shoulder operations, has crashed at 150MPH plus, walked away and set pole 5 > minutes later, and you question his toughness? > > Sheesh, look at me defending MM! > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 5:02 PM Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > > El diablo will not have a choice, but to fight. Can he fight as good as > > MM93? Well, he did try last year, but he wasn't on the same level. We’ll > > see how fast he learns this year. Another way is for him to completely > > avoid fighting and just haul ass like Lorenzo and Stoner used to do. > > I think Lorenzo/Stoner got very upset when someone like Rossi/MM93 > roughed > > ‘em up. They both all of a sudden became vegans. > > > > Anyway, I’m a little disappointed now because we might not see a full > > Marquez vs Fabio Duel. > > But then, we’ll see how tough Marquez really is. This is his real > > challenge; To defeat them all while not 100% fit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:50 AM Kevin Kachadourian < > > kkachadourian@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > In the end, I think we are all correct. MM is an amazing rider. Even if > > > there are riders who can go as fast as he does (FQ?), there is no one > who > > > can successfully ride the ragged edge of a motoGP bike like he does. > > > Sunday, the bike went over that ragged edge twice. The first time Marc > > made > > > another phenomenal save (I will never tire of watching his saves); the > > > second time he could not. Fabio won the race by being fast and never > > having > > > to go to that edge. If Marc had caught up with FQ, either FQ would have > > > needed to push harder and take bigger chances, or MM would have passed > > him > > > like everyone else. Does Rabio have that in him? > > > I look forward to that race, hopefully soon. > > > > > > On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 07:05, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > KK is on a different level, but I do see his point. Gotta finish the > > race > > > > to win, even if everyone crashes, so long as the rider finishes first > > as > > > a > > > > back marker, he/she is absolutely amazing! That’s a Jaw dropping > > > > performance and A real champ in the eyes of KK. That’s what impresses > > > him. > > > > > > > > I also agree with Pagsy’s comment below. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:52 AM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > There's no indication he trashed his tires. He got exuberant with > > the > > > > > throttle. He was running the ENTIRE field down, outpacing even > Dovi > > by > > > > > about 1s per lap. His pace was fierce, and indeed he was riding > on a > > > > > higher level than the rest of the field. Not saying his race > > strategy > > > > was > > > > > the best (obviously), but if you can't respect that performance, > fan > > or > > > > > not, you simply confuse me. > > > > > > > > > > Pags > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:24 AM Kevin Kachadourian < > > > > > kkachadourian@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > How is trashing your tires, so they spit you into the gravel, > > riding > > > > on a > > > > > > higher level? Managing tires is part of the skill set necessary > to > > > be a > > > > > > winner. Remember when fuel management used to be part of the > > > equation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > > > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > > > > and > > > > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > > > > _____________________ > > > > > Ducati mailing list > > > > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > > > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > > > > Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > > > > > > -- > > sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # > > > > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > > http://www.ductalk.com/ > > and > > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > > _____________________ > > Ducati mailing list > > Ducati@list.ducati.net > > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > > Mailto: ajpags@gmail.com > > > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >

LOL. I'm no fan of Marquez (because just saying it annoys Lan), but he'll be missed. I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell he's racing this weekend even though there's no nerve damage. Honda has indicated they're in no rush. Pags On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 6:01 PM Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > Pags, MM needs no defence. His presence on the podium this weekend will do > all his talking for him. Pins in the bone, brace on the wrist, as many > anti-inflammatories and painkillers as can be managed, and he's good to go. > Correction: I just saw the photograph of MM with his arm wrapped and > braced. I am downgrading my prediction to only a 65% chance of competing > this weekend and a 70% chance of being on the podium if he does. > > Oh, wait. I almost forgot. > > I'm not a fan of Marquez (and that's the absolutely last time for this > joke,... probably) > > Kevin > > >

I read he’s not expected to race this weekend but being MM... he sort of reminds me of that knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. It’s always a mere flesh wound. Remember that time he flew off face first at like, 180, slid FOREVER and got up with gravel all stuck in his face. Lol, mere flesh wounds. He raced. Vicki > On Jul 21, 2020, at 6:18 PM, Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: > > LOL. I'm no fan of Marquez (because just saying it annoys Lan), but he'll > be missed. I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell he's racing > this weekend even though there's no nerve damage. Honda has indicated > they're in no rush. > > Pags > >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 6:01 PM Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Pags, MM needs no defence. His presence on the podium this weekend will do >> all his talking for him. Pins in the bone, brace on the wrist, as many >> anti-inflammatories and painkillers as can be managed, and he's good to go. >> Correction: I just saw the photograph of MM with his arm wrapped and >> braced. I am downgrading my prediction to only a 65% chance of competing >> this weekend and a 70% chance of being on the podium if he does. >> >> Oh, wait. I almost forgot. >> >> I'm not a fan of Marquez (and that's the absolutely last time for this >> joke,... probably) >> >> Kevin >> >> >> > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: veloce916@gmail.com

MM performance was great right up to the point where he got his ass thrown off the bike Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 21, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Kevin Kachadourian <kkachadourian@gmail.com> wrote: > > Pags, MM needs no defence. His presence on the podium this weekend will do > all his talking for him. Pins in the bone, brace on the wrist, as many > anti-inflammatories and painkillers as can be managed, and he's good to go. > Correction: I just saw the photograph of MM with his arm wrapped and > braced. I am downgrading my prediction to only a 65% chance of competing > this weekend and a 70% chance of being on the podium if he does. > > Oh, wait. I almost forgot. > > I'm not a fan of Marquez (and that's the absolutely last time for this > joke,... probably) > > Kevin > >> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 14:42, Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Duuuuuuudeeee....the guy was nearly blinded in Moto2, has had multiple >> shoulder operations, has crashed at 150MPH plus, walked away and set pole 5 >> minutes later, and you question his toughness? >> >> Sheesh, look at me defending MM! >> >>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 5:02 PM Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> El diablo will not have a choice, but to fight. Can he fight as good as >>> MM93? Well, he did try last year, but he wasn't on the same level. We’ll >>> see how fast he learns this year. Another way is for him to completely >>> avoid fighting and just haul ass like Lorenzo and Stoner used to do. >>> I think Lorenzo/Stoner got very upset when someone like Rossi/MM93 >> roughed >>> ‘em up. They both all of a sudden became vegans. >>> >>> Anyway, I’m a little disappointed now because we might not see a full >>> Marquez vs Fabio Duel. >>> But then, we’ll see how tough Marquez really is. This is his real >>> challenge; To defeat them all while not 100% fit. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:50 AM Kevin Kachadourian < >>> kkachadourian@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> In the end, I think we are all correct. MM is an amazing rider. Even if >>>> there are riders who can go as fast as he does (FQ?), there is no one >> who >>>> can successfully ride the ragged edge of a motoGP bike like he does. >>>> Sunday, the bike went over that ragged edge twice. The first time Marc >>> made >>>> another phenomenal save (I will never tire of watching his saves); the >>>> second time he could not. Fabio won the race by being fast and never >>> having >>>> to go to that edge. If Marc had caught up with FQ, either FQ would have >>>> needed to push harder and take bigger chances, or MM would have passed >>> him >>>> like everyone else. Does Rabio have that in him? >>>> I look forward to that race, hopefully soon. >>>> >>>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 07:05, Lan Max <nolanmaxxx@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> KK is on a different level, but I do see his point. Gotta finish the >>> race >>>>> to win, even if everyone crashes, so long as the rider finishes first >>> as >>>> a >>>>> back marker, he/she is absolutely amazing! That’s a Jaw dropping >>>>> performance and A real champ in the eyes of KK. That’s what impresses >>>> him. >>>>> >>>>> I also agree with Pagsy’s comment below. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:52 AM Tony Pags <ajpags@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There's no indication he trashed his tires. He got exuberant with >>> the >>>>>> throttle. He was running the ENTIRE field down, outpacing even >> Dovi >>> by >>>>>> about 1s per lap. His pace was fierce, and indeed he was riding >> on a >>>>>> higher level than the rest of the field. Not saying his race >>> strategy >>>>> was >>>>>> the best (obviously), but if you can't respect that performance, >> fan >>> or >>>>>> not, you simply confuse me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pags >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:24 AM Kevin Kachadourian < >>>>>> kkachadourian@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> How is trashing your tires, so they spit you into the gravel, >>> riding >>>>> on a >>>>>>> higher level? Managing tires is part of the skill set necessary >> to >>>> be a >>>>>>> winner. Remember when fuel management used to be part of the >>>> equation? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>>>>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>>>>> and >>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>>>>> _____________________ >>>>>> Ducati mailing list >>>>>> Ducati@list.ducati.net >>>>>> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >>>>>> Mailto: nolanmaxxx@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # >>>> >>>> -- >>> sent_from@appleMobileDevice~ # >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >>> http://www.ductalk.com/ >>> and >>> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >>> _____________________ >>> Ducati mailing list >>> Ducati@list.ducati.net >>> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >>> Mailto: ajpags@gmail.com >>> >> >> >> >> >> To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: >> http://www.ductalk.com/ >> and >> https://www.facebook.com/ducnet >> _____________________ >> Ducati mailing list >> Ducati@list.ducati.net >> http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net >> Mailto: kkachadourian@gmail.com >> > > > > > To get the links and updates on all today's Ducati news: > http://www.ductalk.com/ > and > https://www.facebook.com/ducnet > _____________________ > Ducati mailing list > Ducati@list.ducati.net > http://list.ducati.net/mailman/listinfo/ducati_list.ducati.net > Mailto: mcacorse@aol.com