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Don Chambers
Thu, Jan 7, 2021 6:05 PM
I know that my fathers family always claimed to be Methodist Episcopal;
which would certainly align with your description.
On 1/7/2021 8:14 AM, Elwyn Soutter via CoTyroneList wrote:
Rick,
I don’t have any specific knowledge of Methodism in Canada, but it was
established by members of the Church of Ireland/England who broke away
to form a separate denomination. Charles Wesley didn’t want that. He
wanted Methodism to be a way of promoting religious adherence whilst
remaining part of the Church of England & Ireland. However that didn’t
happen, but in Ireland it took a long time for the split to be complete.
There was considerable resistance to separating from the Church of
Ireland. It was 1815 before Methodists started to conduct their own
baptisms. Because of continuing loyalty and other factors, many
continued to use the Church of Ireland for baptisms for years after
this and it was 1871 before all Methodists routinely performed their own.
For Methodist marriages, the earliest that I am aware of, date from
1835 (Belfast Donegall Square, the first Methodist church in Ireland).
However in the mid 1800s there were only a few Methodist Ministers
(Methodism relied heavily on lay preachers). So that shortage led to
the continuing practice of marrying in the Church of Ireland. In
addition, in the early years, many Methodist Meeting Houses were not
licensed for marriages so that too contributed to couples marrying in
the Church of Ireland.
So to summarise, the two denominations are close to each other, and
were once the same. So moving from Church of England to Methodist, or
vice versa, wasn’t a very big step. (The Church of Ireland and
Methodist congregations in Lisburn, Co. Antrim share the same church).
Elwyn
On Thursday, 7 January 2021, 15:59:26 GMT, Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList
cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship
before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
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Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late
19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ??
Jim
Jim McKane
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList
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This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I
understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with
knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the
last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have
found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late
19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He
married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T.
who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe
County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area
that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic
community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage
certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of
England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any
comments on that?
Thanks!!
Rick Smoll
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I know that my fathers family always claimed to be Methodist Episcopal;
which would certainly align with your description.
On 1/7/2021 8:14 AM, Elwyn Soutter via CoTyroneList wrote:
>
> Rick,
>
> I don’t have any specific knowledge of Methodism in Canada, but it was
> established by members of the Church of Ireland/England who broke away
> to form a separate denomination. Charles Wesley didn’t want that. He
> wanted Methodism to be a way of promoting religious adherence whilst
> remaining part of the Church of England & Ireland. However that didn’t
> happen, but in Ireland it took a long time for the split to be complete.
>
> There was considerable resistance to separating from the Church of
> Ireland. It was 1815 before Methodists started to conduct their own
> baptisms. Because of continuing loyalty and other factors, many
> continued to use the Church of Ireland for baptisms for years after
> this and it was 1871 before all Methodists routinely performed their own.
>
> For Methodist marriages, the earliest that I am aware of, date from
> 1835 (Belfast Donegall Square, the first Methodist church in Ireland).
> However in the mid 1800s there were only a few Methodist Ministers
> (Methodism relied heavily on lay preachers). So that shortage led to
> the continuing practice of marrying in the Church of Ireland. In
> addition, in the early years, many Methodist Meeting Houses were not
> licensed for marriages so that too contributed to couples marrying in
> the Church of Ireland.
>
> So to summarise, the two denominations are close to each other, and
> were once the same. So moving from Church of England to Methodist, or
> vice versa, wasn’t a very big step. (The Church of Ireland and
> Methodist congregations in Lisburn, Co. Antrim share the same church).
>
> Elwyn
>
>
> On Thursday, 7 January 2021, 15:59:26 GMT, Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList
> <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
>
>
> yes ... 1915-1919
>
> I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship
> before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
>
>
> Rick
>
>
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> Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 9:54 am
> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Simcoe County, Ontario
>
> Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late
> 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ??
> Jim
>
> Jim McKane
> CoTyroneIreland.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList
> <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
> <mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com>> wrote:
>
> This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I
> understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with
> knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
>
> In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the
> last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have
> found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late
> 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He
> married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T.
> who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe
> County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area
> that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic
> community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage
> certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of
> England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any
> comments on that?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Rick Smoll
>
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Susan Oleskiw
Thu, Jan 7, 2021 7:01 PM
I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names?
Susan
On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship
before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
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Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 9:54 am
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Simcoe County, Ontario
Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late
19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ??
Jim
Jim McKane
CoTyroneIreland.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList
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This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I
understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with
knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the
last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have
found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late
19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He
married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T.
who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe
County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area
that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic
community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage
certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of
England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any
comments on that?
Thanks!!
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I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names?
Susan
On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
> yes ... 1915-1919
>
> I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship
> before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
>
>
> Rick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 9:54 am
> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Simcoe County, Ontario
>
> Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late
> 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ??
> Jim
>
> Jim McKane
> CoTyroneIreland.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList
> <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
> <mailto:cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com>> wrote:
>
> This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I
> understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with
> knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
>
> In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the
> last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have
> found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late
> 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He
> married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T.
> who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe
> County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area
> that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic
> community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage
> certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of
> England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any
> comments on that?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Rick Smoll
>
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Rick Smoll
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Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine HillsCemetery in Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada.They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
Thanks!
Rick SmollPH: (512) 619-3860
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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names? Susan
On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
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Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 9:54 am
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Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ?? Jim
Jim McKane
CoTyroneIreland.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
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Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine HillsCemetery in Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada.They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
Thanks!
Rick SmollPH: (512) 619-3860
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I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names? Susan
On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
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Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ?? Jim
Jim McKane
CoTyroneIreland.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
Rick Smoll
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Here is a marriage certificate with data
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Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine HillsCemetery in Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada.They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
Thanks!
Rick SmollPH: (512) 619-3860
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I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names? Susan
On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
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Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 9:54 am
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Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ?? Jim
Jim McKane
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
Rick Smoll
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Here is a marriage certificate with data
Rick SmollPH: (512) 619-3860
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Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine HillsCemetery in Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada.They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
Thanks!
Rick SmollPH: (512) 619-3860
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I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names? Susan
On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
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Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 9:54 am
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Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ?? Jim
Jim McKane
CoTyroneIreland.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
Rick Smoll
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Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine Hills Cemetery in
Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada.
They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
Thanks!
Rick Smoll
PH: (512) 619-3860
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Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 1:01 pm
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names?
Susan
On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship
before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
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From: CoTyroneIreland.com jmckane@cotyroneireland.com
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Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 9:54 am
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Simcoe County, Ontario
Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late
19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ??
Jim
Jim McKane
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand
he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer
should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last
generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of
my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the
area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring
townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if
Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that
attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had
evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious
affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised
Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
Rick Smoll
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That's not very close to Simcoe County??
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:26 PM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <
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> Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine Hills Cemetery in
> Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada.
> They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rick Smoll
> PH: (512) 619-3860
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Oleskiw via CoTyroneList <
> cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com>
> To: cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
> Cc: Susan Oleskiw <se.oles@telus.net>
> Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 1:01 pm
> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
>
> I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names?
> Susan
> On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
>
> yes ... 1915-1919
>
> I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship
> before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
>
>
> Rick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CoTyroneIreland.com <jmckane@cotyroneireland.com>
> <jmckane@cotyroneireland.com>
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> <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com>
> Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 9:54 am
> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Simcoe County, Ontario
>
> Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late
> 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ??
> Jim
>
> Jim McKane
> CoTyroneIreland.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <
> cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
>
> This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand
> he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer
> should feel free to chime in.
>
> In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last
> generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of
> my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the
> area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring
> townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if
> Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that
> attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had
> evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious
> affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised
> Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Rick Smoll
>
>
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Its possible they retired away from the farm in their later years. Did you look at the marriage certificate? I sent it the second time
Rick Smoll
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Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
That's not very close to Simcoe County??
Jim McKane
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:26 PM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine HillsCemetery in Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada.They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
Thanks!
Rick SmollPH: (512) 619-3860
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To: cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
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Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 1:01 pm
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names? Susan
On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
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Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 9:54 am
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Simcoe County, Ontario
Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ?? Jim
Jim McKane
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
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Its possible they retired away from the farm in their later years. Did you look at the marriage certificate? I sent it the second time
Rick Smoll
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Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
That's not very close to Simcoe County??
Jim McKane
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:26 PM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine HillsCemetery in Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada.They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
Thanks!
Rick SmollPH: (512) 619-3860
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To: cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
Cc: Susan Oleskiw <se.oles@telus.net>
Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 1:01 pm
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names? Susan
On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 9:54 am
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Simcoe County, Ontario
Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ?? Jim
Jim McKane
CoTyroneIreland.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
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Yes but couldn't make out some of the fields as it is fuzzy. 6 Trinity
Square is in the centre of downtown Toronto close to the church, yet she
shows her residence as the same as his??? Were they 'living in sin'?? GRINS
Jim McKane
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:50 PM Rick Smoll rsmoll999@aim.com wrote:
Its possible they retired away from the farm in their later years. Did you
look at the marriage certificate? I sent it the second time
Rick Smoll
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Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
That's not very close to Simcoe County??
Jim McKane
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:26 PM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <
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Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine Hills Cemetery in
Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada.
They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
Thanks!
Rick Smoll
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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names?
Susan
On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship
before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
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jmckane@cotyroneireland.com
To: Rick Smoll rsmoll999@aim.com rsmoll999@aim.com;
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Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late
19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ??
Jim
Jim McKane
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <
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This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand
he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer
should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last
generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of
my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the
area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring
townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if
Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that
attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had
evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious
affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised
Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
Rick Smoll
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Yes but couldn't make out some of the fields as it is fuzzy. 6 Trinity
Square is in the centre of downtown Toronto close to the church, yet she
shows her residence as the same as his??? Were they 'living in sin'?? GRINS
Jim McKane
CoTyroneIreland.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:50 PM Rick Smoll <rsmoll999@aim.com> wrote:
> Its possible they retired away from the farm in their later years. Did you
> look at the marriage certificate? I sent it the second time
>
> Rick Smoll
>
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
>
> That's not very close to Simcoe County??
>
> Jim McKane
> CoTyroneIreland.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:26 PM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <
> cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
>
> Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine Hills Cemetery in
> Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada.
> They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rick Smoll
> PH: (512) 619-3860
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Oleskiw via CoTyroneList <
> cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com>
> To: cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
> Cc: Susan Oleskiw <se.oles@telus.net>
> Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 1:01 pm
> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
>
> I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names?
> Susan
> On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
>
> yes ... 1915-1919
>
> I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship
> before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
>
>
> Rick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CoTyroneIreland.com <jmckane@cotyroneireland.com>
> <jmckane@cotyroneireland.com>
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> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Simcoe County, Ontario
>
> Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late
> 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ??
> Jim
>
> Jim McKane
> CoTyroneIreland.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <
> cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
>
> This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand
> he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer
> should feel free to chime in.
>
> In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last
> generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of
> my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the
> area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring
> townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if
> Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that
> attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had
> evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious
> affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised
> Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Rick Smoll
>
>
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That is the address for the witnesses. Below the seal it reads Joseph Morrison of Twp of Tecumseth in the County of Simcoe in the province of Ontario.
In the field "Residence when married" it says Cookstown R.R. 3 for both of them ... so maybe they were. I think she may have emigrated there from C.T. specifically to marry him.
Rick SmollPH: (512) 619-3860
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To: Rick Smoll rsmoll999@aim.com
Cc: jmckane@cotyroneireland.com jmckane@cotyroneireland.com; cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 1:59 pm
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
Yes but couldn't make out some of the fields as it is fuzzy. 6 Trinity Square is in the centre of downtown Toronto close to the church, yet she shows her residence as the same as his??? Were they 'living in sin'?? GRINS
Jim McKane
CoTyroneIreland.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:50 PM Rick Smoll rsmoll999@aim.com wrote:
Its possible they retired away from the farm in their later years. Did you look at the marriage certificate? I sent it the second time
Rick Smoll
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To: Rick Smoll rsmoll999@aim.com; CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
That's not very close to Simcoe County??
Jim McKane
CoTyroneIreland.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:26 PM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine HillsCemetery in Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada.They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
Thanks!
Rick SmollPH: (512) 619-3860
-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Oleskiw via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
To: cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
Cc: Susan Oleskiw se.oles@telus.net
Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 1:01 pm
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names? Susan
On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
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Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 9:54 am
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Simcoe County, Ontario
Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ?? Jim
Jim McKane
CoTyroneIreland.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
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That is the address for the witnesses. Below the seal it reads Joseph Morrison of Twp of Tecumseth in the County of Simcoe in the province of Ontario.
In the field "Residence when married" it says Cookstown R.R. 3 for both of them ... so maybe they were. I think she may have emigrated there from C.T. specifically to marry him.
Rick SmollPH: (512) 619-3860
-----Original Message-----
From: CoTyroneIreland.com <jmckane@cotyroneireland.com>
To: Rick Smoll <rsmoll999@aim.com>
Cc: jmckane@cotyroneireland.com <jmckane@cotyroneireland.com>; cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 1:59 pm
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
Yes but couldn't make out some of the fields as it is fuzzy. 6 Trinity Square is in the centre of downtown Toronto close to the church, yet she shows her residence as the same as his??? Were they 'living in sin'?? GRINS
Jim McKane
CoTyroneIreland.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:50 PM Rick Smoll <rsmoll999@aim.com> wrote:
Its possible they retired away from the farm in their later years. Did you look at the marriage certificate? I sent it the second time
Rick Smoll
-----Original Message-----
From: CoTyroneIreland.com <jmckane@cotyroneireland.com>
To: Rick Smoll <rsmoll999@aim.com>; CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
That's not very close to Simcoe County??
Jim McKane
CoTyroneIreland.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:26 PM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine HillsCemetery in Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada.They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
Thanks!
Rick SmollPH: (512) 619-3860
-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Oleskiw via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com>
To: cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com
Cc: Susan Oleskiw <se.oles@telus.net>
Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 1:01 pm
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names? Susan
On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 9:54 am
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Simcoe County, Ontario
Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ?? Jim
Jim McKane
CoTyroneIreland.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
Rick Smoll
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Susan Oleskiw
Thu, Jan 7, 2021 8:10 PM
Actually Cookstown is smack in the middle of Simcoe County. I'm
struggling to read the marriageecord you sent. It is blurry. Let me see
if I can find iton Family search or Ancestry.
For interest sake, the areas of Tecumseth, West Gwillimbury, Essa and
Innisfil, Cookstown being at the intersection of all 4 townships, were
settled by many Irish folk in the early to mid 1800s. Hence the name
Innisfil. My surnames from Ulster include Wallace, Crawford, Black,
Latimer, Neely, Fagan, Culbert, Johnston to name a few.
Susan.
On 2021-01-07 12:44 p.m., CoTyroneIreland.com via CoTyroneList wrote:
That's not very close to Simcoe County??
Jim McKane
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Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine Hills
Cemetery in Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada.
They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
Thanks!
Rick Smoll
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I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names?
Susan
On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a
relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed
after him.
Rick
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Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late
19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ??
Jim
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This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I
understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with
knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were
the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I
have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada
(late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County.
He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in
C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if
Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was
an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an
ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his
marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as
Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back
in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
Rick Smoll
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Actually Cookstown is smack in the middle of Simcoe County. I'm
struggling to read the marriageecord you sent. It is blurry. Let me see
if I can find iton Family search or Ancestry.
For interest sake, the areas of Tecumseth, West Gwillimbury, Essa and
Innisfil, Cookstown being at the intersection of all 4 townships, were
settled by many Irish folk in the early to mid 1800s. Hence the name
Innisfil. My surnames from Ulster include Wallace, Crawford, Black,
Latimer, Neely, Fagan, Culbert, Johnston to name a few.
Susan.
On 2021-01-07 12:44 p.m., CoTyroneIreland.com via CoTyroneList wrote:
> That's not very close to Simcoe County??
>
> Jim McKane
> CoTyroneIreland.com
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>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:26 PM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList
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>
> Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine Hills
> Cemetery in Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada.
> They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rick Smoll
> PH: (512) 619-3860
>
>
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> Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
>
> I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names?
> Susan
> On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
> yes ... 1915-1919
>
> I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a
> relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed
> after him.
>
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> Rick
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>
> Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late
> 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ??
> Jim
>
> Jim McKane
> CoTyroneIreland.com
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>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList
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> This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I
> understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with
> knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
>
> In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were
> the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I
> have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada
> (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County.
> He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in
> C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if
> Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was
> an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an
> ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his
> marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as
> Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back
> in NI ... any comments on that?
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> Thanks!!
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> Rick Smoll
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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
Actually Cookstown is smack in the middle of Simcoe County. I'm struggling to read the marriageecord you sent. It is blurry. Let me see if I can find iton Family search or Ancestry. For interest sake, the areas of Tecumseth, West Gwillimbury, Essa and Innisfil, Cookstown being at the intersection of all 4 townships, were settled by many Irish folk in the early to mid 1800s. Hence the name Innisfil. My surnames from Ulster include Wallace, Crawford, Black, Latimer, Neely, Fagan, Culbert, Johnston to name a few. Susan.
On 2021-01-07 12:44 p.m., CoTyroneIreland.com via CoTyroneList wrote:
That's not very close to Simcoe County??
Jim McKane
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:26 PM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine Hills Cemetery in Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada. They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
Thanks!
Rick Smoll PH: (512) 619-3860
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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names? Susan
On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
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Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 9:54 am
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Simcoe County, Ontario
Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ?? Jim
Jim McKane
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com wrote:
This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
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Actually Cookstown is smack in the middle of Simcoe County. I'm struggling to read the marriageecord you sent. It is blurry. Let me see if I can find iton Family search or Ancestry. For interest sake, the areas of Tecumseth, West Gwillimbury, Essa and Innisfil, Cookstown being at the intersection of all 4 townships, were settled by many Irish folk in the early to mid 1800s. Hence the name Innisfil. My surnames from Ulster include Wallace, Crawford, Black, Latimer, Neely, Fagan, Culbert, Johnston to name a few. Susan.
On 2021-01-07 12:44 p.m., CoTyroneIreland.com via CoTyroneList wrote:
That's not very close to Simcoe County??
Jim McKane
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:26 PM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
Joseph Morrison and Sydney Beatty ... buried at Pine Hills Cemetery in Scarborough, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada. They had two children of whom I am aware ... Olive and Ivan.
Thanks!
Rick Smoll PH: (512) 619-3860
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Sent: Thu, Jan 7, 2021 1:01 pm
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: Simcoe County, Ontario
I hail from Simcoe County. Do you have any names? Susan
On 2021-01-07 8:59 a.m., Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList wrote:
yes ... 1915-1919
I may have been that he and his wife to be had been in a relationship before he left for Canada, and that she followed after him.
Rick
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Hi Rick - well not that I am aware of; however, you typed " (late 19-teens) "........... do you mean like 1918 era?? OR ?? Jim
Jim McKane
CoTyroneIreland.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:51 AM Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList <cotyronelist@list.cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
This question goes out most specifically to Jim McKane since I understand he hails from the Toronto area, however anyone with knowledge of the answer should feel free to chime in.
In tracing the paths of my ten great aunts and uncles who were the last generation to be born on our family farm in C.T., I have found that one of my great uncles emigrated to Canada (late 19-teens) and was a farmer in the area of Simcoe County. He married a woman who was from a neighboring townland back in C.T. who had also emigrated to the area. I am wondering if Simcoe County (or that region outside Toronto in general) was an area that attracted Ulstermen at that time, and perhaps an ethnic community had evolved. I also noticed that on his marriage certificate his religious affiliation was listed as Church of England, although he had been raised Methodist back in NI ... any comments on that?
Thanks!!
Rick Smoll
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